Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[amigo de christo]

LIkewise. I have to burst your bubble


Context....Jesus was speaking to God's chosen people. You maybe look down on them as being inferior, but that is the hugest of errors. Paul says we can be rejected as easily as they were...and we will be, especially with the kind of attitude we see here..all the hubris and building castles in the sky, thinking we are more special than the Jews.

Being born of the Spirit puts us into a higher race of faith....not a higher master race. As many as failed the walk in the wilderness among the Israelites, is as many as will fail the grace of God. And people will be shocked on that day....weeping and gnashing of teeth...and many will have an eternity to ponder all the warnings they disregarded.

I'm talking to religious ideologues for the most part. A lot of smug hubris and self-interested religious extremists....truth be told. And a people no different than the ones whom Jesus castigated so soundly. They didn't repent and neither will you. Too harsh sounding, too uncomfortable, too inconvenient.

It's only when you think you could be a horrible criminal that you make the effort to be a model citizen. It's only when you think you are no better than a Pharisee that you begin to fear the Lord.

People can be wrong, it does not mean they call God a liar.

Simple.

Not so ?

sorry pro deo that boat dont float . they do call GOD a liar .
And they cannot cliam ignorance , only WILL FULL ignorance . Cause one a man is told
and the man hears truth and then says ALAS i dont beleive that , THEY NO LONGER in igonrance call God a liar
THEY DO IT WILLFULLY . NOW GET them reainbows and koran kissers OUTTA them churches .
Ignorance is ignorance , BUT WOE to the one who be WILLFULLY ignorant . that one gonna burn badly .
And sadly our rainbow churches and hugey do lovey do a harlot churches
have zero excuse . THEY hear the words of GOD but label them hate speech . THAT IS DIRECT HATRED TO GOD
from will full hearts . Get them rainbows and that inclusvie ecumeincal harlots doctrine OUTTA all houses now .
WE MAKE OUR STAND , and not upon false love of a harlot , not upon what seemeth right to man and to this inclusive
generation . ON JESUS and on the words OF HOLY TRUTH in said scriptures . OR BYE BYE HOUSE and all in it
ITS COMIN GDOWN on JESUS day .

 

[amigo de christo]

People can be wrong, it does not mean they call God a liar.

Simple.

Not so ?

A lie is a lie and the truth is the truth . what a man beleives is what a man beleives .
BUT SHEEP GONNA BELEIVE TRUTH pro deo . not the love of a harlot . No sir not the love of a harlot or her
inclusive father satan . yeah i did say inclusive and i did say satan .
DO that make me the anti christ . or maybe just a rebellious hater that dont know GOD or his love .
OR , OR
AM i telling the truth and it is true that a walloping amount of even so called christains
are swallowin down a harlots love .
TELL you what pro deo . YOU TEST IT .
BUT NOT BY ya churches and not by ya men .
OPEN sesame . THAT BIBLE and you dig in it like a man digging for fifty pounds of gold . Just read read read .
learn well that doctrine .
And that doctrine you learn well . Then you will see , what by grace i did see .
And that is this , whether catholic or protestant , SWEET MEAT they have no idea what they have lost
NOR ANY inkling of an idea THEY ARE LOST . I stand firm on that . OH i surely do .
MANY are following antoher jesus , that jesus of theirs and its love messages
WOULD HAVE BOOTED THE VERY JESUS and ALL THEM APOSTELS right out of the church .
WITH sayings like YOU ALL are haters of GOD , your monsters , your devils , you do not know love
You do not know GOD and you all NEED JESUS . YEAH . T HAT IS A FACT d evin . a fact .
TELLING JESUS HE NEEDS JESUS . as in their harlot verision of a sad excuse of what they consider jesus .
THIS GENNY as in generation of christendom has FALLEN in love and is a generation that talks
more about love than has any before it ever done .
YET KNOWS NEITHER GOD OR HIS LOVE . FACT pro deo . fact .

 

[amigo de christo]

People can be wrong, it does not mean they call God a liar.

Simple.

Not so ?

WE make our stand or prepare to fall . the instruction of today is very simple .
OPEN BIBLE , PRAY TO GOD , read bible and keep reading bible and keep reading bible
and never put it down . stay refreshed in them pages , be in prayer , be learning .
And for me to write the same things to this generation is not grievious
to me , ITS NEEDFUL . TIME for the grave ones to make our st and NOW and
remove a harlots false version of judge not and her false love
And s tart doing what must be done .

 

[amigo de christo]

Friend, nobody here calls God a liar.

never heed a man no matter how much he can talk about righteousness
and holiness
and though he brings teachings of JESUS
YET MAKES VOID the FAITH that one MUST FIRST BELIEVE IN THIS JESUS CHRIST OF GOD .
NEVER DO IT or prepare to fall . And prepare to wail on JESUS day .
for a man like that leads you only to death twice told .
YOU ALWAYS REMEMbER THAT my friend . ALWAYS .

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus said... If you love Me obey My commandments. AND...not everyone who says to Me Lord Lord (or accepts or believes ON Me) will enter the kingdom of heaven but he who DOES the will of My Father in heaven.

Repent from your religious hubris and virtue signalling and be converted to Christ.

another perfect example of how epi uses JESUS own words against HIS own g ospel .
I already BELEIVE THIS epi . And what is the n umber one will of HIS FATHER IN HIM
TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and to HEED all things HE DID say .
YOU OMIT THE BLEIEVE ON HIM and try so hard to recreate a religoin
that just preaches his teachings , WHILE MAKING FAITH IN HIM TOTALLY VOID ,
BELEIF IN HIM totally void .
DONT SOUND like YOU ARE OBEYING HIS COMMANDMENTS .
SO here , lets allow john to sum them up .
TO BELIEVE , yes epi TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and to love one another .
IF WE LOVED JESUS we would never have preached UNBELIEF , saying or bleieving BELEIF ON HIM was not necessary .
SORRY epi but all you do is identical to what the jews who got cast out did .
OH SURE they could quoate the teachings of GOD
BUT NO FAITH , it was all about self righteous works . WITHOUT BELEIEF in JESUS
its all in vain epi . ALL of it .
NO HONOR do you give to the SON . In fact you allow total dishonor upon the SON
by the inclusive lie of that god that has made having to beleive on HIM as not only unnecessary
But what did you call it again , OH YEAH RELIGIOUS extremism .
GOD DESIRES teh GLORY epi , AND ALL G LORY he has given to the SON .
THERE IS NO HONOR to the SON by any who calls him a liar .
AND when on fails to beleive on HIM , THEY FAIL TO HONOR HIM FOR ALL HE DID . THEY actually say
WE DONT BLEIEVE IN HIM , WE DONT beleive HE DID that . AND YOU ACcEPT THAT
and YOU CALL my preaching to BELIEVE ON HIM , oh yeah what was that agian , RELIGIOUS extremism .
You my friend are not fooling me . But hey i aint GOD so you dont have to worry about me .
BUT YOU AINT FOOLING GOD EITHER . NOW HIM YOU BETTER WORRY ABOUT EPI . AND WORRY
big time . CAUSE ALL JUDGMENT OF GOD has been given UNTO THE SON .
YOU KNOW the SON WHO YOU SAY OH ITS NOT NECESSARY to have to believe on HIM .
AND even worse when one says to an atheist we must , YOU CALLED that RELIGOUS extemism .
I WONT be your judge epi . BUT JESUS WILL . i can assure you HE is not well pleased
with ecueincal inclusive anti christ messages that DENY THE DIRE NEED TO BEILIEVE ON HIM
and rather recreates a melting pot of UNBELIEF .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Even the sins for which a person must be put to death according to the law are forgiven in the ministry of Christ.

First of all, a born again Christian didn't commit the sin unto death you are speaking of, so they are not forgiven. 1 John 3:9 says someone born again cannot commit that type of sin even once! Reformationists added the word "practice" which doesn't even make sense. It is obvious they don't understand the two categories of sin that Scripture speaks of.

I'll try to answer more from your post later. I need a nap.

 

[amigo de christo]

First of all, a born again Christian didn't commit the sin unto death you are speaking of, so they are not forgiven. 1 John 3:9 says someone born again cannot commit that type of sin even once! Reformationists added the word "practice" which doesn't even make sense. It is obvious they don't understand the two categories of sin that Scripture speaks of.

You talk much about this . So i am curious .
SURELY you are not sitting under or anywhere near ANYTHING ecumeincal inclusive and interfaith .
CAUSE ALL OF IT is leading them all to THE CATEGORY OF SIN that WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN .
We aint sipping from inclusive love .......................are you . I aint saying you are just asking .

 

[amigo de christo]

First of all, a born again Christian didn't commit the sin unto death you are speaking of, so they are not forgiven. 1 John 3:9 says someone born again cannot commit that type of sin even once! Reformationists added the word "practice" which doesn't even make sense. It is obvious they don't understand the two categories of sin that Scripture speaks of.

I'll try to answer more from your post later. I need a nap.

soon enough ALL that were NOT OF US
will have been led to the lie of the ecumeincal all inclusive interafith peace of the lie of anti ch rist .
And while its true that might still try and lip the name of JESUS , it never was THE JESUS they knew , they followed
or they LOVED . SO i also have another question for you dear sister .
HOW do you think satan was able to convince christendom and the false religoins they are all serving the same GOD .
How was he able to shift christainity INTO such a lie .
FIVE WORDS SISTER . FIVE WORDS repeated over and over and over and over .
DONT JUDGE , G OD IS LOVE .
you really think satan cannot change DONT JUDGE into a meaning that JESUS NEVER MEANT . OH BUT HE CAN
and OH BUT HE DID . JESUS NEVER MEANT DONT CORRECT when he said DONT JUDGE .
And do you really think the devil himself , his harlot cannot say GOD is love
and yet all along use that phrase to remold an image of a god that ALL RELIGOINS to INCLUDE CHRISTENDOM
would see as GOD and as LOVE and EVEN believe its anti christ peace for the world .
OH but he can and oh but he did and oh but he is doing just that .

 

[shepherdsword]

First of all, a born again Christian didn't commit the sin unto death you are speaking of, so they are not forgiven. 1 John 3:9 says someone born again cannot commit that type of sin even once! Reformationists added the word "practice" which doesn't even make sense. It is obvious they don't understand the two categories of sin that Scripture speaks of.

I'll try to answer more from your post later. I need a nap.

They use "practice" because the term is in the continuous present tense. "Practice" is an acceptable translation.

1 Jn 3:9
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

 

[ProDeo]

never heed a man no matter how much he can talk about righteousness
and holiness
and though he brings teachings of JESUS
YET MAKES VOID the FAITH that one MUST FIRST BELIEVE IN THIS JESUS CHRIST OF GOD .
NEVER DO IT or prepare to fall . And prepare to wail on JESUS day .
for a man like that leads you only to death twice told .
YOU ALWAYS REMEMbER THAT my friend . ALWAYS .

I have not forgotten you were the only one who reacted positively on my post what Jesus said to daily pick up the cross and follow Him.

You are fine.

 

[ProDeo]

Of course. As a human I'm capable of any manner of evil. How do we know who we are under the hardest pressure? We can only surrender all to God...and pray for His strength knowing that the hardest test of our lives could be right around the corner.

Good to see we agree here.

What I see is that people have run away from the truth even before being tested.

Only God knows that.