Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

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MostlyConfused

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It was a bad example, be glad I did not say it was a good example.
I don’t know what you’re trying to say with the above. The two who gave a good report did not die in the wilderness. They entered into the promised land. There were two. A total of 12 spies sent in, not 10.
 
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And here you try it AGAIN. It is always the same tactic even though it didn’t work on me weeks ago and won’t work now. When I tell the truth you try to convince me I am upset as though it’s a magic spell that you can’t figure out why the words don’t work on me. I was not upset. I was just speaking truthfully. Your need to repeat the same pattern and cycle over and over again is exhausting. Being exhausted by someone’s cycles doesn’t mean you are upset. It means you just aren’t going to feed them. Also, I wasn’t confused by what you said. Not upset and not confused by you. The tactics just do not work on me.
I apologize if I misunderstood. You sounded to me as though you were in a state. Accusing me of strange things too, which I put down to you not understanding where I'm at, with regard to holiness in particular, so I attempted to clarify.
 

Laurina

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It's not my bad news, but the riddle of MC.



Consider again -

Num 13:30 But Caleb quieted the people before Moses and said, “Let us go up at once and occupy it, for we are well able to overcome it.”
Num 13:31 Then the men who had gone up with him said, “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we are.”
Num 13:32 So they brought to the people of Israel a bad report of the land that they had spied out, saying, “The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people that we saw in it are of great height.
Num 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.”

They gave a bad report, the result -

Num 14:1 Then all the congregation raised a loud cry, and the people wept that night.
Num 14:2 And all the people of Israel grumbled against Moses and Aaron. The whole congregation said to them, “Would that we had died in the land of Egypt! Or would that we had died in this wilderness!
Num 14:3 Why is the LORD bringing us into this land, to fall by the sword? Our wives and our little ones will become a prey. Would it not be better for us to go back to Egypt?”
Num 14:4 And they said to one another, “Let us choose a leader and go back to Egypt.”

Ending in the death of the 10 spies.
I'm sorry, ProDeo I'm not understanding your point. I think you misunderstand MC.

What I do understand is that Episkopos is the only man living here on earth at this time (2026) in Canada that I know that has seen Zion, has walked in the light of it and has a testimony of it. He has a similar testimony of the writings of saints of old that have passed on. Perhaps you aren't meant to believe/understand this at this time or ever...that's not up to me or in my power (these things are too high for me)...that's God's department. For me, men like him in our day and age are so very rare, it's hard to believe...but then we must humbly pray, "Lord I believe, help Thou my unbelief," because with God all things are possible.
 

Laurina

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Ending in the death of the 10 spies.
Are you aware that there were 12 spies??

"10 were bad, 2 were good"...a song we sang 55+ years ago in children's church.
Their mission was to spy out the promised land for 40 days and come back to give a report...10 gave bad reports (unbelievers of God’s promises) and 2 gave good reports (believers of God's promises)....you read the account...