Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

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Episkopos

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Your whole problem is you think a person becomes virtuous by the effort of being virtuous.


Your whole problem is that you think wheat becomes wheat by the effort of trying to be wheat. For you, it would be an effort, and a wasted one at that. You would have to repent of your pride and hubris to NOT be a tare.
Fruit trees don't become fruit trees by bearing fruit. They show that they are fruit trees by bearing fruit.

That's my argument. The righteous DO righteousness...because they are righteous. The holy walk in perfection because they are IN Christ.

These are things that are far above your understanding.
Your theology fails on the matter of how to become a fruit bearing tree that is pleasing to God and won't get cut down and burned. Yours is a works justification theology through and through.
You have again contradicted yourself. Bearing fruit is necessary to be seen as a fruit tree. A tree is known of its fruit. You do NOT bear fruit because you CLAIM something that is fictitious...a fictitious righteousness....so your works are vain. You have no fruit except what indoctrination and deception produces...namely tares. If you repent from your religious presumptions then you will immediately change the nature of your fruit. Say NO to the devil.
 

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Apologies if I came off as offensive. I just see two ways of reading the word. I know this to be true because I spent years of reading it as just knowledge. It took many trails and tribulations to break me. I now find life in the word when I read. If you don't see the two approaches that is fine. Blessings
I've known and experienced reading God's word for knowledge, devotion, correction, guidance, Holy Spirit insight and spiritual life, for decades. I also know pride when I see it.
 

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I've known and experienced reading God's word for knowledge, devotion, correction, guidance, Holy Spirit insight and spiritual life, for decades. I also know pride when I see it.
Pride is a nasty thing and difficult to eradicate because we often miss it in ourselves. To see it in someone else is not a big challenge. The real challenge is to see it in ourselves. That's why when someone even insinuates they see it in me, I humble myself.