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He didn't have to be put to death in the body so he could be saved when Jesus comes back. His fleshly sin had to die so he could be saved when Jesus comes back. The important thing is that you know that Free Grace teaching is wrong when it says he was saved no matter what he did in the flesh and no matter if he was in disbelief or not.Wrong again. Purposely living in sin like the guy who had sex with his step- mother ? That’s purposely living in sin.Period. God will chastise such an errant one to get them back in line.Ignore That Chastisement at your own risk God ain’t gonna be Mocked....He can knock you dead in your tracks if He so chooses .....Relax ....nobody “ gets away” with anything in this life....
“ Even if we are UNfaithful....He REMAINS FAITHFUL ....for God
if one has been “ born again”, he cannot be unborn..
it’s not advisable , but if you choose to act like Peter did, you could deny Him three times in the same day and you won’t be disowned by Jesus —- “he can’t deny himself”....
lol you remind me of the Pharisees, Have you ever lied or you try and justify it by yes but not since last time....For a self-professed teacher your dividing of Scripture worries me...look at the verse in context, Verse 5 Behold, I make all things new. verse 6 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. verse 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Now keep in mind there is no condemnation for those that are in Christ. Verse 8 describes the ones in hell, Because they have rejected Gods Offer of Grace through Jesus sacrifice and are judged as sinners, They are judged for there sins so that is what they are....it is not a verse to throw around in judgment of Christians
The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation.
That's not hard to understand.
Agreed !It’s a sad fact, but the man that authored the words to that song , John Lennon , is more than likely languishing in Hell at this very moment ..... I loved the music of the Beatles.I still do. Turns out “ Love is NOT the Answer.” Being “ Born Again” is the Answer .Faith in Jesus Christ Plus Nothing.
John Lennon sang in one Of his songs , “ I don’t believe the Bible— I don’t believe in Jesus!” Well, he does now.
Indeed its the only gospel that saves as Paul decaled in Romans 1:16 its the power of God unto salvation and the one by which we are saved 1 Corinthians 15:3.Amen! The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To “believe” the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation. That's not hard to understand. It's just hard for certain people to accept.
There are going to be many Believers in Heaven with zero rewards
its to bad you deny Scripture and believe a lie !From post #1057
So you believe the lie that believers who sin will lose rewards, not their salvation.
This is the most ridiculous made-up doctrine I’ve heard; your own false doctrine teaches that everyone sins every day! Meaning that NO ONE will ever get any rewards.
So what is the point of a judgment seat of rewards if It’s impossible to issue such rewards since no one ever becomes sinless according to your doctrine?
its to bad you deny Scripture and believe a lie !
1 Corinthians 3:10-15
By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Try reading this SLOOOOOOOWLY with understanding the words below. Your entire false doctrine destroyed with 1 simple to understand verse from the CONTEXT of the passage on rewards and the loss of them.Read the passage; it doesn’t teach what you have been taught it teaches:
1 Corinthians 3:10-11,14 KJVS
[10] According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. [11] For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
[14] If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
This pertains to work in the faith (ministry) and being faithful to the foundation of Christ, not the consequences of sin.
For Paul himself wrote that:
1 Corinthians 6:9 ...the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived
I think what @Michiah-Imla is saying is that the works that are burned up are works of ministry (that somehow did not make the grade) in the lives of those who are born of God...who "do not" and "cannot" sin (1 John 3:9).Try reading this SLOOOOOOOWLY with understanding the words below. Your entire false doctrine destroyed with 1 simple to understand verse from the CONTEXT of the passage on rewards and the loss of them.
1 Corinthians 3:15
15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Try reading this SLOOOOOOOWLY with understanding the words below. Your entire false doctrine destroyed with 1 simple to understand verse from the CONTEXT of the passage on rewards and the loss of them.
1 Corinthians 3:15
15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Who disagrees with that? 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 lacks details found elsewhere in the Bible but it's things we all believe and agree on. Paul is focusing on the resurrection aspect of the gospel there because that's the point at which the Corinthians have fallen away from the gospel. They stopped believing in a risen savior. That's why he did not go into detail about the gospel there and instead focused on the fact that Christ has indeed risen from the dead.Indeed its the only gospel that saves as Paul decaled in Romans 1:16 its the power of God unto salvation and the one by which we are saved 1 Corinthians 15:3.
Amen! Yet some people still insist on “adding works” to the gospel or even sinless perfection to the gospel which is a “different” gospel.Indeed its the only gospel that saves as Paul decaled in Romans 1:16 its the power of God unto salvation and the one by which we are saved 1 Corinthians 15:3.
If 1 Corinthians 3:8-15 was teaching that you can not live for the Lord and still be saved Paul would be contradicting John who said the person who does not live for him is not born again and not a child of God. I'm surprised you're defending such a position (if you actually are) because Calvinism teaches that the person who does not live for Christ is a fake believer, not a fallen believer who is still protected by the grace of God through faith for the day of salvation.Try reading this SLOOOOOOOWLY with understanding the words below. Your entire false doctrine destroyed with 1 simple to understand verse from the CONTEXT of the passage on rewards and the loss of them.
1 Corinthians 3:15
15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
I think the argument is true faith will, with no exceptions, add works to a person's salvation experience with God. If it doesn't add those works, then that person does not have the faith that saves all by itself apart from works. Do you disagree with that? Remember, John made it clear that ultimately if a person is not changed and working works of righteousness they are a child of the devil and are not born again. Do you agree with that?Amen! Yet some people still insist on “adding works” to the gospel or even sinless perfection to the gospel which is a “different” gospel.
Yes, and in contradiction to other scriptures too.1 Corinthians 3:11-15 does not necessarily give a free pass to those who practice unrighteousness. If it did, would it not be in contradiction to 1 Corinthians 6:9-11?
If someone merely claims to have faith, yet they have no works (James 2:14-18) then they have an empty profession of faith/dead faith and not saving faith. John gives a clear distinction between children of God and children of the devil in 1 John 3:7-10. That still does not equate to salvation by works or salvation by sinless perfection. (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; 1 John 1:8-10)I think the argument is true faith will, with no exceptions, add works to a person's salvation experience with God. If it doesn't add those works, then that person does not have the faith that saves all by itself apart from works. Do you disagree with that? Remember, John made it clear that ultimately if a person is not changed and working works of righteousness they are a child of the devil and are not born again. Do you agree with that?
Amen! Yet some people still insist on “adding works” to the gospel or even sinless perfection to the gospel which is a “different” gospel.