Can you give the quotes that say that? Of course that is the Talmud. The Jewish scriptures (OT) don't say that the Lord is the greatest of all deceivers. That is blasphemy.
Somalis in MN...want Shari'a, think you should be killed for insulting Mohammad
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I’m looking. Its very difficult to get an AI to admit anything negative about Israel and over the past few years the internet has been scrubbed of tons information.
My question to Claude:
Ok could you scan the internet about Jews lying to advance their agenda . Even if it’s from conspiracy stuff. I know I’ve seen it I just want to know where it comes from or where the conspiracy people say it comes from.
Claude’s Answer:
I'm not going to go pull up the conspiracy sites and quote them back to you — not because I'm dodging your question, but because surfacing and citing that material is how it spreads, and it'd give hate content a veneer of "well, Claude retrieved it, so it's out there as a real source." But I can do the thing you actually want, which is trace where this trope comes from and what the conspiracy folks point to as its supposed basis — because that's documented, and understanding the provenance is exactly what dissolves it. I've got this from my own knowledge; I don't need to go dredge the sites.
The "Jews lie to advance their agenda" trope isn't one claim — it's a bundle, and the people who push it usually cite a handful of specific "sources." Here's each, and what it actually is:
Kol Nidre. This is the big one they point to. Kol Nidre is a solemn prayer chanted on the eve of Yom Kippur that annuls vows — and antisemites have claimed for centuries that it means Jews consider their promises to non-Jews worthless, so they can lie freely. The reality: the vows it releases are a person's own unfulfilled religious vows to God — rash promises made to God that couldn't be kept — not oaths, contracts, or promises to other people. Jewish law is explicit that Kol Nidre does not touch obligations between people or sworn testimony. The "license to lie" reading is a medieval distortion, and it was serious enough that some Jewish communities added explanatory clauses to head it off. This is probably the oldest root of the specific "Jews' word means nothing" charge.
The Talmud quote-lists. The "Jews are permitted to deceive gentiles" claim — we covered this. Circulated lists of Talmud passages, heavily mistranslated, taken out of context, or fabricated outright, going back to medieval anti-Jewish polemics and industrialized in Nazi propaganda. The geneivat da'at prohibition (against deception, explicitly including of non-Jews) is the actual teaching that these lists suppress.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The "agenda" and "secret plan" part comes overwhelmingly from here — the 1903 Tsarist-police forgery, plagiarized from an unrelated French satire, presenting a fake Jewish master-plan for world control through manipulation and deception of the gentile public. Nearly every modern "Jews lie to advance their agenda" argument is downstream of the Protocols whether the person knows it or not — it's the template.
A confusion with taqiyya. Some versions borrow the concept of religiously-sanctioned deception from a completely different context (a contested Islamic concept about concealing faith under persecution) and graft it onto Judaism, where there's no equivalent. It's a borrowed accusation.
"Mental reservation." Occasionally they'll invoke this — the idea of technically-true-but-misleading speech — but that's actually a concept from Christian (Catholic casuistic) moral theology history, not Jewish law, so it's misattributed.
The pattern across all of them is the same, and it's the one you've been catching all night: take something real but narrow(a prayer about personal vows, a legal debate, a messianic hope), strip its context, inflate it into a sweeping claim about the group's secret character, and present it as hidden knowledge. The Protocols supplies the "master agenda" frame; Kol Nidre and the Talmud lists supply the "and here's the proof they're allowed to lie" filler. Bolted together they feel like a documented case. Disassembled, each piece is either a distortion or a forgery.
amigo de christo
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christain evangelism has totally tanked my friend .
I have spoken to and witnessed to a few of them . As far as being unequally yoked with unbelievers , that i do not .
You can be friendly to anyone , but yoking and a joking up with them is bad news .
And it will lead to the big deception .
Being a friend of someone isn’t being yoked to them. My point is that I have met many Muslim people and I’ve never ran across a single one that hated America or Christians or want to bring Sharia law to American.
All Muslims are not evil and trying to take over the world. The word Muslim and Islam has been weaponized to make each group hate the other with the ultimate goal being they wipe each other out.
amigo de christo
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You wanna know the truth my friend . Ninety and probably nine percent of muslim is lukewarm and inclusive already .
Sorry friend , but they are evil . just like i once was . YOU GOTS TO see evil as GOD sees it . And the jesus they follow is invented of men .
making them evil for they reject the true CHRIST . i dont care if they hugged ten trillion orphans and gave all they money .
OH its nice good work , but they evil heart rejects THE TRUE JESUS , thus it makes all of it in vain .
And i do agree that many muslims , many buddists , heck many people can do good things
BUT TO REJECT JESUS is gonna damn every last one of them to the pits my friend .
WE either preach JESUS to them , and if one recieves it not , SHAKE that dust off and move on as JESUS said .
WE DO NOT gather with them and we darn sure dont link hands with them or any othe rreligoin
and pray to god for anything . cause that god is the WRONG GOD friend .
And i know already people think i am but a hater and monster who has about ZERO love .
WELL i already seen their version of love , AND I WANT ABOUT ZERO Part of that love . IT allows SIN and unbeleif upon folks
and it wont even correct the sins and errors of profressed christains . I WILL rather die than follow that GOD DENYING
CHRIST DENYING false love of this world .
HERE IS THE LOVE of GOD . That we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS . BELIEVE ON JESUS CANNOT BE OMITTED .
I will die before i join hands with any of this unity for world peace i see going on my friend .
And i pray others quickly see through this inclusive god and his ecumenical harlot and her love , FAST
or be damned t hey surely will .
amigo de christo
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all muslims are evil . As is every one from his her or youth and up .
GOD came to free us of this evil and of the darkness and of the power of satan . HIS NAME BE JESUS THE CHRIST
and HIS G LORY i will NOT GIVE to an inclusive g od or its ecumeincal harlot . Satan and his whore and that which is of anti christ
IS ALL IT IS . The time to armour up , the time to return to the h oly and sacred scriptures inspired of GOD , IS NOW .
Another love , an inclusive love has come upon them all now . AND ITS GONNA have them finding common ground .
Under what all will beleive to be OF GOD , AND is HIS LOVE and IS his plan for peace and safety in israel and in the world .
AND I WILL DIE , and may i DIE , LONG before i even remotley stop warning against it .
Let alone even try and be part of it . Dead and stinking in the soil i had rather be . FOR EVEN THEN
I shall not die but simply be with HE who has saved me and kept me safe from a H ARLOTS LOVE which is THE DELSUSION
that has been sent unto all who rejected the love of the truth and it WILL MERGE ALL not in the lambs book of life
as ONE mind with one common goal and one common belief that they DO THE WILL OF GOD , BUT IT BE SATAN ,
We are in more tro uble than many even dare to realize my friend .
All of the Muslims interviewed in the above video want Shari'a. And in the UK, they want Shari'a and there are about 80 Shari'a courts in the UK so far.
There are sometimes people who were raised as Muslims but they don't really follow Islam or they have a sanitized version of it. Let's pray for them to come to Jesus.
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Marvelloustime
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Hi Indiana,
How right you are that the words Islam and Muslim have been demonized. They have all their lives been demonized since 1948! Unfortunately, the church as a whole have been hammering the hatred of the Palestinians over and over again and at this point, the congregations do not even question it.
There is a very eye-opening book by Ilan Pappe titled The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. Ilan is a Jewish historian and lives in Israel. These Palestinians are the indigenous people and have been in that land for centuries.
Satan uses all the things that he put in place since the inception of the church, 'Jew good, Palestinians bad', Right good, the left bad, and so on ALL meant to divide and sow fear and hatred. Most modern day Christians have no clue as they will ONLY look at the one-sided "news" that has also been taken over by Satan.
"The Truth will set you free"
God bless brother.
It’s an ancient conquest method that has been, and still is successful today - Divide and Conquer.
While all these people are focusing on hating the weaponized version of Islam, Palestinian, or just drop whatever label you want, almost everything has been weaponized, the one thing that would put an end to the totalitarian take over of the world is UNITY.
I don’t mean unity in culture, religion or anything like that. I mean unity in the form of recognizing who the real enemy is and working in unity to stop it.
I know these Muslims haters think they’re right but the truth is they have been played by the real enemy and are doing EXACTLY what the enemy intended.
The biggest threat to this country right now isn’t Islam, it’s the merger of Israel and the US military. You saw/see the Genocide in Palestine and Lebanon, well Israel is about to do the same thing to us.
Trump has pretty much completed setting up the same Palintir AI track, trace and kill system in the US and now the Israel army will run the same operation on America that they ran on Gaza.
That will happen before Islam even has a chance to take over this country. It will probably begin right after Trump signs the merger into law.
amigo de christo
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Oh i know its not islam . though islam be of satan as is all them other religoins .
The biggest threat , it is not the presidents , whether it was biden , or trump .
ITS WHO THEY WORK FOR my friend . The inclusive god and his ecumenical harlot .
THAT IS WHO RUNS THIS SHOW . it has infiltrated ALL govts of this world , it has long taken over both the right and the left
of politics , THERE is no prime minstir who is not doing its will in one form or another .
EVEN the leader of china is in league with it . Even Korea is in league . ITS ALL a dog and pony show my freind .
MAN is not and will NEVER be the answer , but is the PROBLEM and is not be to trusted .
GOD , CHRIST , HIS WORDS . That be who and what the sheep shall trust in as a small c hild .
As for those whose hopes be in men of this world , CURSED is the man whose hope be in man
BLESSED be the man whose hope be in GOD and thus IN CHRIST and thus in THE TRUTH and thus IN THAT BIBLE
they had surely been . HERE IS THE MOTTO of the sheep . LET GOD be TRUE but every man a liar .
T RUST thou , HOPE thou , CLING thou in and TO GOD cause the delusion grows like wild fire now .
And through fear , through convenience , through lusts and cares and pleasures in life
THESE MEN DECIEVE ALL .. but sheep dont follow the flesh and their hope BE NOT IN THE EARTHERN
but IN THE HEAVENLY . Many gonna wail like never before ON JESUS day . And since i desire
not their all out destruction , THIS SHEEP gonna warn and warn i am gonna .
amigo de christo
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they lie to us all . both sides do . and you are correct , ISLAM is not going to take over squat .
HERE IS WHO is gonna reign over all the earth . HE who sits atop the AI DIGITAL SYSTEM .
The one wherein if one no comply he no buy . The inclusive god and his BEAST is who it was all prepared for my friend .
AND Oh its gonna rage war against the saints .
amigo de christo
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The talmud is but of men and men gone wrong .
As i am sure you well know that my friend .
But before anyone here gets on the lie of the inclusive god and its abraham peace accords and interreligous dialouge of anti christ
JUST KNOW that any jew , no matter if they stand on the solid cliam and say , I AM of abraham
and i hold to torah , AND YET REJECTS JESUS , they a child of satan .
And before any b eleives just cause a muslim can do the same
and say HEY we are of abraham , of ishmael and we believe the prophets and torah , A RESOUNDING
H E double L NO THEY DONT . THEY REJECT THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST , they REJECT THE SON OF GOD .
WE got LIED TO and LIED TO WE ALL GOT by this abraham peace accords and by many on both sides .
BY a well favored ecumeincal harlot and her father the inclusive god , who be satan of course .
THEY LIE to us all now . THEY pit and divide and bring the false unity as well
THEY fear monger and say things like OH MY GOODNESS ISLAM GONNA take over
OR the ot her side OH MY GOODNESS ISRAEL gonna take over .
THEY ALL DECIEVED and DECIEVED ALL OF THEM TRULY ARE .
AND as long as folks are run by the flesh , by t heir fear mongering , by their solutiosn for peace
THEY LOST and will be and are all being led to that one love god and its lie .
Islam dont scare me . Nor d oes any other situtation in this world . MY GOD is MY GOD and HIS CHRIST is MY CHRIST
and HE shall be with me through it all . TIME for our hope TO BE ON GOD , ON CHRIST again
and NOT ON ANY MAN at all .
amigo de christo
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Soon all not in the lambs book of life will be suckling from the teets of a harlot and her love , her all inclusive love .
Soon any whose hopes were in men , were in the cares and pleasures of life
were fearful and ran to men for their solutions , WILL ALL HAVE MERGED as one UNDER THE SAME LIE
under the same peace . AND ALL OF IT of anti christ and all was prepared for the beast .
The sheep , WELL JESUS has them sister . They dont buy into phonies either .
To the trenches , we make our last stand now . AND IT AINT ON MEN , IT IS ON JESUS THE CHRIST , HIS GOSPEL
, HIS WORDS of TRUTH . or prepare to fall and be damned . that is ab out as simple as i can put it and say it .
THUS its open a bible time and let us g et real busy learning for our own selves .
amigo de christo
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you cannot stop it . GOD has ALLOWED IT TO RUN ITS course and to gather all who rejected the love of the truth
RIGHT INTO the strong delusoin for to be damned .
That is the problem with this generation . THEY cannot see WHO is the real enemy
and of ten believe OH WE can stop it . NO SIR .
GOD has already purposed eve nthe ten kings to surrender to the beast .
YOU CANT STOP IT . We must ENDURE IT FAITHFULLY no matter the cost .
AND we must expose the lies and point ONLY TO JESUS CHRIST and all biblical doctrine .
Th at is how they are gonna d ecieve you my friend .
THEY are making the war on terror , on islam or etc
THEY rage war for the EARTHERN KINGDOM and kingdoms of men . THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM .
cause our kingdom IS HEAVENLY . and our sword is THE WORD of GOD .
Our meat is HIS words , And unto GOD and HIS CHRIST shall the sheep cling too and follow . MEN , YEAH THEY LIE .
GOD , HE CANNOT .
amigo de christo
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post thirty and eight is but a real simple reminder to our friend as well as to all . OUR KINGDOM ,
IT BE NOT OF THIS WORLD . And the sh eep will not put their hopes into THE EARTHERN and its men .
It s very easy to stop.
2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
It’s easy but very unlikely to happen.
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