The 144,000 before God at the end.

[rebuilder 454]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

"and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus our Deliverer from the wrath to come."
A.) Noah was delivered from the wrath/flood of God

"But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us,
that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
B.) Noah, like us, was warned of the coming wrath and how to escape it.

The second coming is post wrath.

Huh????
You argued over and over that there is only one coming and that is the rapture

 

[rebuilder 454]

Actually Pre-tribs will accidentally accept the false Christ because he comes first to deceive.





That they are the only ones who are right and watch for all the signs Christ gave, which includes watching for the false Christ. You mock that but claim pre-tribbers do that also. You are teaching pure confusion not to mention the mis-identification of Pre-trib in your version being actually Mid-trib.

...as you sit there watching and waiting for the AC.
According to you Jesus will only come on the white horses after the gt.
In your mind, the coming of Jesus is years off and it would be ridiculous to watch and wait.

That is sad. Even the 5 foolish virgins had enough revelation to watch and wait.

 

[rebuilder 454]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

"and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus our Deliverer from the wrath to come."
A.) Noah was delivered from the wrath/flood of God

"But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us,
that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
B.) Noah, like us, was warned of the coming wrath and how to escape it.

Noah was a prejudgment dynamic.
"Prewrath" doctrine would need noah in a "correct" setting of the AC killing all on the planet refusing the mark. ..nope
Noah is a pretrib rapture dynamic.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Post-trib does not pin point the hour of the LORD'S Coming.

Read Matthew ch24 again as well as 1st & 2nd Thessalonians

Actually it does.
No brainer

 

[marks]

Explain how reality is straw.

I don't know what you mean there, but tribulation is not restricted to just a few years at the end of the age.

It's a straw man.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I'm not. Are you?

But you are.

No matter. I'm moving on.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

Actually, the dead in Christ will rise first and the alive believers that remained will be caught up when the Lord himself comes. The scriptures that you are referring to regard the gathering from heaven and earth when He will send His angels to gather the elect at the 6th seal. Two different raptures. One like the days of Noah and one like the days of Lot.


If you understood who the beast of the sea, who was and is not, is, you would understand what was being talked about.


There will be a 7 year period AKA the 70th week of Daniel. It will start soon.


You should be watching and praying that you are worthy to escape all the things that will come to pass.


The lie is going to be that aliens have come when I will be Christ that comes for the Church. Haven't you noticed the sudden push about aliens being real. Total BS. The only aliens are the fallen angels.

That aint the lie my friend . THE LIE that leadeth unto the second death has been and groweth massive now .
You need to examine these sold out UNITY UNITY JUDGE NOT JUDGE NOT we are one churches . THEY UNDER THE LIE already .
And it grows only darker . Selling CHRIST out for a love that cannot save . DONT BUY IT MY FRIEND .
BUY THE TRUTH and SELL HER NOT . Yeah i say BUY THE BIBLICAL TRUTH and LOVE what GOD LOVETH
and hate what GOD hates . ARe you sitting in a church that focuses on unity unity unity
and hollers judge not to those who correct sin . IF SO YOU HEADING RIGHT TO THE PITS OF HADES and need to get out of her .
Sound doctrine , GODS HOLY WORDS are what a lamb does feast upon .
Dont be a hater like these so called lovers who wont correct are . ALLOW NOT SIN upon your neighbor .
YE SHALL NOT HATE Your neighbor in your heart , you shall correct , rebuke them and not allow sin upon them .
Leaven needs to be corrected IN THEM CHURCHES . And those who pratice sin NEED to BE PUT OUT if they wont repent .
DONT be as this lovey do generation of today is , TRY LOVING FOLKS and CORRECT those who are in sin and justify any sin .
OR you aint gonna make it my friend . TIME to make biblical correction GREAT AGAIN . PUT IN AT the forefront in them churches .
PUT ER WORD Of the LORD back at the front . OR prepare to wail hard and often on the DAY OF CHRIST is all i have to say .
Most folks so busy trying to pump this trib or that trib out , YET MANY are already under the spell of the whore that leadeth to hell .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know what you mean there, but tribulation is not restricted to just a few years at the end of the age.

It's a straw man.

Much love!

No it aint . AND its about to get a whole lot worse for lambs like me who are dead set against the false love that has crept into
christendom and has taken her and all false religions captive to a unity lie . SIT NOT UNDER SUCH FOLKS is all i can say .
FOR STRONG IS THE LORD GOD who gonna judge that harlot . and all who sat under her judge not false love lie .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know what you mean there, but tribulation is not restricted to just a few years at the end of the age.

It's a straw man.

Much love!

Time to make biblical correction great again .

 

[amigo de christo]

The power of a tyrant over people is the brutality.
Forced worship.
I 100% believe the mark will come immediately.
In order to establish control the AC must be murderous and brutal but only toward Christians.
We will be labeled as the haters. We will be the only ones to stand directly in the way of the AC.

Currency will be initiated immediately and probably have the image of the AC or the Beast on it. Even the currency will be a form of worship.

Here is my take on the timing of the rapture. It's not that we will be raptured before the appearance of the Antichrist .
I believe he will appear. We alone will know he is the AC.
The dynamic of 1 thes is, "revealed" he will be revealed to believers. We will recognize him right away.
But the trib has not started at that point.
I believe we will ALL be rounded up as christians. The "haters".
Hauled into some huge facility. No roof because it is so huge. More like a compound.

The rapture will be at night.
Before the rapture it will appear we were wrong, no pretrib rapture!!!
Postribbers in their glory still despising the weak deceived pretribs.
Pretribbers so lost and broken hearted.
We will be mocked and laughed at.
Then it happens!!!
The rapture

No postribs are taken. They are the 5 foolish.
But even faithless pretribs may stay als. I don't know.
We have been informed by Gods word we will not go through the gt.
But we see so many conditions for being WORTHY.
DEAR LORD the terror, the intrigue, severe testing, of what looks like we were deceived, but it is in fact part of the rapture glory!!!!
See the unbelievable test of faith that is coming???
That is my passion.
To get the church ready for their greatest test that will blindside over half the church

No disciple of Christ would take the mark.

The question at hand was WOULD YOU Take some kind of chip or tattoe .
I already know no decisple of Christ will take the mark .
BUT my question is IF they push it in and say lets take this thing . What will you say , what would you do .
TIME to answer that question .

 

[covenantee]

Pretribs are waiting for Jesus
You are waiting for the AC.
Even the foolish were waiting for Jesus.
What does that say for postribbers????

I'm waiting for what John was waiting for.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

 

[amigo de christo]

The second coming is post wrath.

Huh????
You argued over and over that there is only one coming and that is the rapture

The second coming IS aligned with the rapture . And it do cometh after the great wrath of the dragon
and of the beast cometh against the true lambs . THEN GOD gonna TRIBULATE them all who loved a lie
who persecuted the lambs . Fear not to suffer . And my advice is , DO NOT take any kind
of chip or tattoe in or on that skin my friend . MANY WILL . MANY WILL .
Folks aint been paying attention to what is and has been going on my friend .

 

[The Light]

Post-trib does not pin point the hour of the LORD'S Coming.

Read Matthew ch24 again as well as 1st & 2nd Thessalonians

You are post wrath according to the Word. The TRIBULATION IS OVER AT THE 6TH SEAL.

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm waiting for what John was waiting for.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Who is a liar . HE that denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST , he is anti christ .
SO HOW come folks are buying into this anti christ lovey do religoin . That makes such abhorrent claims
that muslims , buddists and whateverists who DONT even beleive JESUS is the CHRIST
are fine as long as they hug and lovey do and do good to humanity .
THE RELIGOIN OF ISLAM IS an ANTI CHRIST RELIGOIN . as are and as is ANY OTHER RELIGOIN PEROID .
SO why for the sake of a false love are so many now selling out the dire NEED TO HAVE TO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST
for a love that will not , cannot save them and IS NO LOVE that cometh or CAME OF GOD . IT COMETH OF THE DRAGON
and of the world and by the sensual carnal means of men feeds the flesh a LIE FROM HELL that many now buy .

 

[amigo de christo]

...as you sit there watching and waiting for the AC.
According to you Jesus will only come on the white horses after the gt.
In your mind, the coming of Jesus is years off and it would be ridiculous to watch and wait.

That is sad. Even the 5 foolish virgins had enough revelation to watch and wait.

ITS HERE . and is leading the world through a false love to the total surrender and unity of heart and mind
unto the dragon . TO be as one .
Its cries can be heard . BRIDGE BUILDERS , breaking down walls , UNITY UNITY UNITY
JUDGE NOT judge not . Alpha course , rick warren purpose drivin life
the popes , the all inclusive lie . ITS HERE amongst us now and most folks THINK OH this movment is of GOD
As they holler GOD IS LOVE and yet that love seems to be accepting LIES FROM HELL
SINS , many paths to GOD . THE DELUSION IS HERE and it grows . ARE YOU UNDER IT .
DO you holler to those who come within churches and try and correct sin and error , JUDGE NOT
DO you sit in churches that allow UNREPENTANT gays who still identify with their sin .
DO you holler at the lambs who do all to correct the errors within the church and say things like
HEY DONT JUDGE WE ALL SINNERS . IF YOU DO you are buying THE LIE already . TIME FOR THE BIBLE AGAIN .

 

[David in NJ]

You are post wrath according to the Word. The TRIBULATION IS OVER AT THE 6TH SEAL.

The 6th Seal shows the LORD'S Second Coming.

Revelation not definitively chronological = let the WHOLE of Scripture define for you what you are to believe

Study The Scriptures and Revelation as a WHOLE Picture that is Built from Genesis Forward = Revelation does not stand-alone!

Have a Great Day in Truth Today

 

[amigo de christo]

The 6th Seal shows the LORD'S Second Coming.

Revelation not definitively chronological = let the WHOLE of Scripture define for you what you are to believe

Study The Scriptures and Revelation as a WHOLE Picture that is Built from Genesis Forward = Revelation does not stand-alone!

Have a Great Day in Truth Today

READ SLOWLY MY FRIEND

 

[The Light]

The 6th Seal shows the LORD'S Second Coming.

This is correct. The 6th seal shows the second coming when all eyes will see the coming of the Lord. This is a harvest when Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. The gathering happens immediately after the tribulation and before the day of the Lord.


Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins. During the wrath of God Jesus is in heaven for the marriage supper. When the marriage supper concludes Jesus returns with the armies of heaven and sets up His kingdom. This is the second advent when Christ returns to the earth.

So if you think that Christ only comes once, that would make you a post wrather, wouldn't it? Because don't you think that He comes at the end of wrath?

 

[The Light]

READ SLOWLY MY FRIEND

STAY THIRSTY MY FRIEND. AND HUNGRY FOR THE WORD.

 

[David in NJ]

This is correct. The 6th seal shows the second coming when all eyes will see the coming of the Lord. This is a harvest when Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. The gathering happens immediately after the tribulation and before the day of the Lord.


Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins. During the wrath of God Jesus is in heaven for the marriage supper. When the marriage supper concludes Jesus returns with the armies of heaven and sets up His kingdom. This is the second advent when Christ returns to the earth.

So if you think that Christ only comes once, that would make you a post wrather, wouldn't it? Because don't you think that He comes at the end of wrath?

Revelation repeats the Second Coming in the 6th Seal and in the 7th Trumpet and in chapter 19.

Reveltion is a FLUID REVEALING, NOT a strict chronology, but a revealing of the Alpha & Omega and His Second Coming.
Including what MUST take place BEFORE His Second Coming = 7 churches, PERSECUTION, ANTICHRIST, ENDURANCE.