The answer of hell and its origins

[Grailhunter]

I was raised Jewish and We beleived in Eternal Punishment.

So far I have not found anything that modern Jews believe in Hell. If you find a sect that does....let me know.

 

[Grailhunter]

Go on to verse 46. If you limit eternal for punishment, you also limit it to the same for life.

I do not limit the eternal....either eternity in Hell or eternity in Heaven.

 

[The Learner]

I do not limit the eternal....either eternity in Hell or eternity in Heaven.

If you believe the unsaved will be destroyed then you are limiting Eternal for both.

 

[face2face]

I do not limit the eternal....either eternity in Hell or eternity in Heaven.

You have the problem of eternal life being rewarded to the wicked...doesn't work!

 

[face2face]

The punishment will be final and complete cutting off. Psalms 37:9, Psalms 37:34

You can get around your inability to correctly interpret the imagery being used in the NT of the grave!

F2F

 

[face2face]

None of you can answer these hard questions because you dont have any Scripture to support.

1. The Bible teaches immortality is only reserved for the righteous.
2. You cannot have God allowing His Eternal Spirit to be tortured for eternity
3. Fire is a natural element which cannot be used to torture something ethereal! Daniel 3:8-20
4. Worms are a natural creature and are unable to eat a soul - again the issues are self apparent.

Do you want more absurdities?

F2F

 

[Grailhunter]

You have the problem of eternal life being rewarded to the wicked...doesn't work!

As long as they are standing in fire I am ok with it.

 

[face2face]

@Grailhunter Matthew 25:46

The punishment is everlasting (grave), but it is not "conscious" eternal torment.

Try and prove your doctrine from the Word.

You will find it impossible.

 

[Grailhunter]

If you believe the unsaved will be destroyed then you are limiting Eternal for both.

I do not believe that the unsaved will be destroyed.....I believe they will be screaming for eternity in hell.

 

[face2face]

As long as they are standing in fire I am ok with it.

You miss the point! Eternal existence is only rewarded to the saints! You don't have an atonement model that allows for eternity given to the wicked.

Big problem!

 

[face2face]

I do not believe that the unsaved will be destroyed.....I believe they will be screaming for eternity in hell.

You would like that wouldn't you?

 

[Grailhunter]

You miss the point! Eternal existence is only rewarded to the saints!

That is not what the Bible says......So I disagree, reference post 358 and 27 scriptures about eternal fire and eternal punishment.

 

[face2face]

It's a shame you hold this teaching when it's nowhere taught in the Bible. This type of exegesis crosses over to many false doctrines you hold.

 

[face2face]

That is not what the Bible says......So I disagree, reference post 358 and 27 scriptures about eternal fire and eternal punishment.

And you are yet to expound a single one!

 

[face2face]

What do these passages teach you?

1 Thessalonians 4:13 John 3:16 2 Thessalonians 1:9

 

[face2face]

Agree... There are many passages which teach that the ungodly and wicked will be destroyed or perish forever.

Why do you hold onto misinterpreting Bible imagery that teaches in extreme language the same reality?

Maybe this issue of yours feeds into a much deeper problem concerning "how" you read and interpret Scripture.

Hmmmm food for thought.

 

[Grailhunter]

You would like that wouldn't you?

I do not think that anybody likes it.....I am sure that Christ would prefer that all were saved.
Be good and do good.

 

[Grailhunter]

It's a shame you hold this teaching when it's nowhere taught in the Bible. This type of exegesis crosses over to many false doctrines you hold.

Again reference the Word of God....post 358.
Nowhere in the Bible...LOL...Do you line out scriptures? Christians know it is in the Bible.

 

[Grailhunter]

What do these passages teach you?

1 Thessalonians 4:13 John 3:16 2 Thessalonians 1:9

LOL What does Hebrew 10:26-27 mean?

 

[face2face]

LOL What does Hebrew 10:26-27 mean?

Why would you take me to a Scripture that speaks of enemies being consumed which is quoting Isaiah 26:11?
Let's check you competencies shall we?
Consumed mean totally gone! Like perished...like 1 Thessalonians 4:13 John 3:16 2 Thessalonians 1:9
you're LOL has been turned into IDK = ignorance.
You dont even know what you're quoting!