The Antichrist ... or just another false prophet

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Douggg

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Wrong, the 1290 is has nothing to do with anything past the 2nd coming, its just you not understandi


ng what the 1335, 1290 and 1260 stand for.

The Beast is NOT a King of Israel. That is just you not grasping correctly that John 5:43 was about the Pharisees of Jesus' time.
Ronald, I did not say anything about the 1290 days being after Jesus's return.

AoD setup................... then 1290 days later......................................the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven (Matthew 24:30a).

That appearance will terrify the kings of the earth who will have been persecuting the saints. So the kings of the earth assemble their armies at Armageddon for 45 days to prepare to make war on Jesus.

At the end of the 45 days, Jesus will descend to earth, and destroy those armies. Thus concluding the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12.

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The beast-king will not be the King of Israel any longer once he has become the beast-king.

The person will go through stages. One of the stages will be as the Antichrist - illegitimate King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah.

I will give you an example of stages...

Take former President of the United States John F. Kennedy, for example.

In his youth, he was a lieutenant on a PT boat. That was one stage.

Then later he became a Senator of Massachusetts. A different stage.

The later he became the President of the United States. His final stage.


For the person who becomes the beast king, the stages will be...
first stage - the little horn
second stage - the prince that shall come
third stage -the Antichrist
fourth stage - the revealed man of sin
fifth stage - the beast-king
 
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Didn't think so either, he doesn't seem to be against Christ but doesn't seem to fit the bill. The Antichrist will be powerful, display miraculous signs by the power of Satan.
That man IS AGAINST CHRIST .
just cause one can lip JESUS is the messiah dont mean HE KNOWS OR EVEN FOLLOWS the MESSIAH JESUS .
that dude is all inclusive . they all in it to merge the religoins all under a lie
 
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Ronald, I did not say anything about the 1290 days being after Jesus's return.

AoD setup................... then 1290 days later......................................the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven (Matthew 24:30a).
Yes you do, you just do not understand the fulcrum point is not each number, its the 2nd coming. So, when you says 45 days after the 2nd coming that AUTO means you started counting from day 1260, which is an error. Thus your count takes y0u 45 days past the 2nd coming, but that is not what each number does, each number is THAT MANY DAYS until the 2nd coming, thus the 1335 is 1335 days before the 2nd coming, the 1290 is 1290 days before the 2nd coming and the 1260 is 1260 days before the 2nd coming.

ALL END on the day Jesus shows up.

That appearance will terrify the kings of the earth who will have been persecuting the saints. So the kings of the earth assemble their armies at Armageddon for 45 days to prepare to make war on Jesus.

At the end of the 45 days, Jesus will descend to earth, and destroy those armies. Thus concluding the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12.
Everything you look at n these numbers is backwards from reality.

The beast-king will not be the King of Israel any longer once he has become the beast-king.

The person will go through stages. One of the stages will be as the Antichrist - illegitimate King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah.
He is never Israel's King. He's a dictator to the E.U. Israel and The Many.
 

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So, when you says 45 days after the 2nd coming
Ronald, I did not say 45 days after the 2nd coming. The 2nd coming of Jesus is Matthew 24:30b, highlighted in blue below...

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


The AoD setup...............then 1290 day later, Matthew 24:30a...........then 45 days later, Matthew 24:30b. A total of 1335 days.
 

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Yes you do, you just do not understand the fulcrum point is not each number, its the 2nd coming. So, when you says 45 days after the 2nd coming that AUTO means you started counting from day 1260, which is an error.
No, Ronald. The AoD will be set up 1335 days before Jesus returns to stand on the Mt of Olives. Jesus returns on day 2520 (the last day of the 7 years). Thus, the AoD set up 1335 days before then will be on day 1185 of the 7 years. The counting starts on day 1185.

Aod setup (day 1185)..................1290 days later (day 2475) the sign of the Son of man in heaven..........45 days later (day 2520) Jesus descends to earth to stand on the Mt. of Olives.
 
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The text does not say that about the false prophet.


Yes it does.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.




The false prophet will be a religious figure, not a political one.

He will be both.
 

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Yes it does.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
That text does not say nor imply that the false prophet will be a king - a political figure.
 

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Ronald, I did not say 45 days after the 2nd coming. The 2nd coming of Jesus is Matthew 24:30b, highlighted in blue below...

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


The AoD setup...............then 1290 day later, Matthew 24:30a...........then 45 days later, Matthew 24:30b. A total of 1335 days.
You just can not comprehend my point it seems. You do infer that the 45 days is something that happens after Jesus' coming because you do not understand the 1335 is 45 days before the 1290 which is 30 days before the Middle of the 70th week DOTL/God's Wrath staring point.
At the end of the 45 days, Jesus will descend to earth, and destroy those armies. Thus concluding the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12.
The point being, whatever side of the 2nd coming you are referring unto, the 45 day period has nothing to do with that, its just you surmising this yourself, right? You are guessing what these two numbers mean, meanwhile I am telling you what they actually mean. I see it all, 45 days into the 1000 year reign, and 75 days into the 1000 year reign etc. etc. now I am getting 45 days before Jesus shows up, all because people are merely guessing. I did the simple thing, I kept the symmetry as it was given in verses 6-7, and when I saw that Daniel in vs. 8 asks the exact same question, what will END ALL THESE THINGS as the Angel in verse 6 (WHAT WILL END ALL THESE WONDERS) I knew that both answers had to have the same ending point in time. And that could only be the 2nd Coming, hence I knew the 1335 was the furthest date away from the 2nd coming, followed by the 1290 and the lastly the Beast only goes forth conquering after the other two dates . God did not want these things understood, thus as He told Daniel they would be sealed up util the very end as in now.

If God had told Daniel to write it this way, it would not have been sealed up.

From the time the Little Horn conquers Israel there will be 1260 days until my Messianic son, who died for your sins, returns to kill the Anti-Christ/Beast who is the leader in Daniel 11:36-45.

BUT.........Before all this even starts (he went in reverse order to SEAL IT UP) these two events must happen

1335 days before the 2nd coming of my Son Yeshua shows up to end the Little Horns reign on earth, I will send my Two-witnesses (as Malachi 4:5 clearly says), BEFORE the Great and Dreadful day of the Lord which happens 75 days before the middle of the week...I wonder why? Oh, to get the 1/3 of Israel to repent as Zechariah 13:8-9 clearly shows......and in the very next verse guess what shows up? The Day of the Lord arrives in Zech. 14:1


Think it through, the 1335 Blessing is Israel sending the Two-witnesses to call Israel unto repentance. Why is it called a Blessing? Well, God let Israel on the day Jesus died, He rent the temple and forsook them as a nation for 2000 years, only at the 1335 will Israel as a nation once again be called unto repentance, as Rom. 11 says, when the Time of the Gentiles [service] his come full, then and only then (after the church age) will Israel be called to repent, during the 70th week, 1335 days before the 2nd coming, so Blessed is those who wait, means just that, those who waited 2000 years will be blessed by God who has chosen to call Israel unto repentance once again, after 2000 years, that my friend is the greatest blessing we can have, to be pursued by God.

1290 days before the 2nd coming, a False prophet (Rev. 13) will do two things, stop Jesus worship in the temple that he thinks is his temple, after 45 days of 5 million Jews worshiping Jesus this evil man goes mad, he throws in with the E.U. President, because Israel has joined the E.U. and thus gave away the Lord's land. Secondly, he will then place a graven image of this beast man up in the temple. Thus profaning the temple which had been cleansed only because the 1/3 repented.


THE ABOVE is why we only get NUMBERS........You have to figure it out, just like people figured out the 1260 is Israel getting conquered by the Anti-Christ.

The AoD setup...............then 1290 day later, Matthew 24:30a...........then 45 days later, Matthew 24:30b. A total of 1335 days.
You are totally confused on these numbers brother.

No, Ronald. The AoD will be set up 1335 days before Jesus returns to stand on the Mt of Olives. Jesus returns on day 2520 (the last day of the 7 years). Thus, the AoD set up 1335 days before then will be on day 1185 of the 7 years. The counting starts on day 1185.
Nope, 1290 days, the 1335 is when the Two-witnesses show up.
Aod setup (day 1185)..................1290 days later (day 2475) the sign of the Son of man in heaven..........45 days later (day 2520) Jesus descends to earth to stand on the Mt. of Olives.
Nope, the 1290 happens 45 days after the 1335 and 30 days before the 1260, you refuse to understand Jesus' 2nd coming is the fulcrum point unto all three numbers.........THINK, EACH NUMBER TALKS ABOUT AN ENDING OF SAID EVENTS
 

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You just can not comprehend my point it seems. You do infer that the 45 days is something that happens after Jesus' coming because you do not understand the 1335 is 45 days before the 1290 which is 30 days before the Middle of the 70th week DOTL/God's Wrath staring point.
The middle day of the 70th week is day 1260, right ?

45 days + 30 days = 75 days, right ?

So, the AoD will be set up 75 days before day 1260, right ?

75 days before day 1260 is day 1185, right ?

The AoD will be set up on day 1185.


1335 days after day 1185, Jesus returns to this earth to stand on the Mt. of Olives on day 2520.

What do you think happens 1290 days after day 1185 ?
 
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Nope, the 1290 happens 45 days after the 1335 and 30 days before the 1260, you refuse to understand Jesus' 2nd coming is the fulcrum point unto all three numbers.........THINK, EACH NUMBER TALKS ABOUT AN ENDING OF SAID EVENTS
Ronald, the flaw in your rationale is that you wrongly think the 1290 days and 1335 days both end on the same day..... instead of they both begin on the same day - which is day 1185.

day 1185 (the 1290 days begin)...........................................day 2475 the sign of the Son of Man in heaven takes place

day 118 (the 1335 days begin)...........................................................................................day 2520 Jesus returns to this earth.
 
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Ronald, the flaw in your rationale is that you wrongly think the 1290 days and 1335 days both end on the same day..... instead of they both begin on the same day - which is day 1185.
Wrong did the 1260 begin on the same day also, you fatal flaw is you refuse to heed the QUESTIONS in verses 6 and 8. The questions relate unto the events Daniel had just been shown in Daniel 11:36-45 and we can add in Dan. 12:1-2 if we want or not matters not.

Dan. 12:6 And one[angel] said to the man clothed in linen(Jesus pre incarnate), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. (So, Jesus just stated after Israel is Conquered/Scattered there will be 1260 days before all these WONDERS END and vs. 6 asked specifically about that. So this starts at the 1260)

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? (So, Daniel asks the exact same question, what will be the end of THESE THINGS which the Angel called WONDERS, so the question centers around THE END and not THE START !! You twist t around and concentrate on the start dates, which I get at also, by juxtaposing each start date from the end date which is what is being spoken about. You understood (I guess) that the 1260 was the Little Horn/AC or Beast conquering Israel and ruling over her for 1260 days, and you understood that the 2nd coming ends that after 1260 days, but for some unknown reason you can not figure out the other two numbers are also Jesus says what ends those two events. You want to come up with your own math instead. Now Jesus tells Daniel about two other EVENTS and when THESE THINGS ALL END)

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days[until ALL THESE THINGS END] (at the 2nd coming of the Messiah).

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

This is why many modern day Christians can not see what God is trying to show us. We get engrained with false understandings. The Anti-Christ first conquers Israel at the 1260, which is 30 days after the 1290, so it can not be of God even though it is, its not the Anti-Christ who commits the AoD its the False Prophet. Now Rev. 13 agrees and says the False Prophet gets the people to make an IMAGE unto the Beast. So scriptures back me up. Also, the 1335 has to be the Two-witnesses blessing, how could Israel flee Judea if they had not already repented? THINK MAN. The Blessing is the Two-witnesses showing up to turn Israel back unto God. Want me to prove it? Cause when I post a scripture you just pretend its not posted so I will Copy and Paste both reason I say the Two-witnesses have to show up before God's Wrath falls at the 1260 Middle of the 70th week.

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: (So Elijah has to return BEFORE the 1260 DOTL starting event) 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Zech. 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

{{ The 1/3 repent right? BUT WHEN? The very next verse tells us it can only be JUST BEFORE the coming Day of the Lord watch...........}}

Zech. 14:1
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

It amazes me people think God changes his symmetry in the middle of the chapter. How did you find out the Time, times and half [time] was 1260 days before the 2nd coming ends all of these wonders AND (KEY) that is was the Little Horn/AC/Beast? By STUDY ELSEWHERE in the bible. Likewise we have to figure out who the 1290 is speaking about (See Rev. 13) and who the 1335 is speaking about (See Malachi 4:5 and Zech. 13:8-9 and Zech. 14:1) and we do so by finding them in other scriptures.

The Two-witnesses have show up FIRST, that is THE ONY WAY THS WORKS !! Israel has to repent BEFORE the DOTL/God's Wrath falls because Israel has to flee into the Petra/Bozrah Mountains to be protected by the hand of God Himself (Rev. 12 says so). Why did Gid give both the Beast and the Two-witnesses the exact same 1260 day ORDAINED ON EARTH OFFICRS? Think, God does nothing by chance? People good with numbers and puzzles can see this easily. If both have 1260 day offices, and one leaves office or DIES before the other one, than simple math tells you the one who LEFT FIRST but still fulfilled his 1260 day duty, had o also show up before the other one, else God is a liar.

1335 is the Two-witnesses showing up 1335 days before the 2nd coming so guess what, they can get their 1260 day Ordained Office out of the way 75 days before the Messiah shows up can't they? And they do indeed die at the 2nd Woe right? Use logic man. But since the Beast comes to power on day 1260, he MUST BE ON EARTH when Jesus returns, and thus Jesus will kill him WITHOUT HANDS. Thus he dies at a later date than the Two-witnesses because he came to power AFTER they got the 1/3 or 5 Million Jews to repent which HAD TO HAPPEN FIRST or else how would the 1/2 Jews who repented known to Flee Judea and that is why in Rev. 7 it says HOLD UP the Four Winds (Wrath) until the 144,000 ( a CODE not 144,000 just like Christendom is not made up of only 10 Female Virgins) are saved and protected. This is also why the 1290 CANNOT be the AC but has to be the False Prophet (as Rev. 13 clearly shows) because Israel has to have 30 days to flee into the Jordanian Mountains.
 

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Day 1185 on which the AoD will be set up is 75 days before the mid point day 1260.
Annnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddd? Day1185 is 1335 days from ALL THESE WONDERS ENDING at the Second Coming of Jesus the Messiah, the 1290 is not 1335 days away, it happens 45 days later on day 1230, IF YOU MUST GO BY THOSE NUMBERS, I can use God's chosen verbiage & numbers and understand they are that many days away from the 2nd coming, it does not confuse me thus I do not need to use 1185, the 1230 and 1260. Instead I use the 1335, the 1290 and the 1260..............and all three END THESE WONDERS at the Second Coming of Jesus.
 

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Annnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddd?
What will happen 1290 days after the AoD is set up on day 1185 ?

1335 days after the AoD is set up on day 1185, Jesus descends down to earth to the mount of Olives splitting it in half.

So what will happen 1290 days after the AoD is set up on day 1185 ?
 

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So what will happen 1290 days after the AoD is set up on day 1185 ?
Its NOT set up on the 1185, that is just your erroneous calculation my good friend. EACH NUMBER is THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DAYS away from the 2nd coming, that is why it is given THAT NUMBER.

Why is this so hard. It is simply math.

If we each had tickets for a Yankee baseball game and I bought mine 60 days before the game and thus nicknamed them Y60 and you bought a ticket 30 days before the game and called them X30 we can both understand many things via these simple numbers. I bought mine about 2 months before the game, you about one month before the game. And I bought my tickets 30 days before you did. But the game has yet to be played, But the date of the game has been set. That is like the 2nd coming, Jesus/God knows he is going to return 1260 days after the DOTL starts/The Beast.
 

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Its NOT set up on the 1185, that is just your erroneous calculation my good friend. EACH NUMBER is THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DAYS away from the 2nd coming, that is why it is given THAT NUMBER.
Ronald, 1335 days is the greater of the two numbers prior to the 2nd coming. Therefore, the AoD will be set up 1335 days before Jesus's 2nd coming on day 2520. 2520-1335 = day 1185.

Counting forward 1290 days from day 1185, what will happen ?

Something major is going to happen that is in the bible, 1290 days from day 1185.
 
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I believe the one who claimed they were "God" was a jewish person in the second temple (that doesnt exist anymore.)