The Bible Is Not Written To You (or is it?)

[Ritajanice]

Hey Mathew I love you Brother.. you make me laugh..nearly every post you have in it.

That’s why I have you on ignore.hahaha.,you must be in and out of the ignore button all day.hahaha..to funny.,. You do make me chuckle..im no different what’s my catchline...Born Again LOL hehehe,xxx

I hope you get my humour..you’re such a sweet young man..God Bless my friend.

 

[Marvelloustime]

if you love israel then let not them people go into interfaith . TELL them of the dire need to BELIEVE JESUS is the CHRIST .
this interfaith is a snare , made to LOOK GOOD , made to seem like it will give peace to the middle east
and to the world . ITS A SNARE . made to sound good .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

What JESUS or jesus we follow and love mattered . I suggest we all learn about the ONE in that bible and love and embrace
all things He taught and later the apostels taught .

 

[Behold]

if you love israel then let not them people go into interfaith . TELL them of the dire need to BELIEVE JESUS is the CHRIST .

You have my promise that i will only lead people to Christ, and after that to Paul.

 

[Bob Estey]

So then the whole Bible isn't written to us? Leviticus is written to the Levites?

I don't agree with that. The Lord was talking to the Jews, but he wanted us to hear what he said.

 

[Bob Estey]

meats , drinks , days , sacrfices for sin by blood of animals . THAT NO Longer applies to us .
But if any man dares to try and reconcile sin , THEY GETTING REBUKED .
example . if a man tries to say HEY we aint under the law , ITS OKAY NOW to be gay , THAT MAN better fear
for the rod is a coming . i am so wore out with people who use grace as a license to omit and overlook certain sins .

I don't think things change. There are things that are required of the Jews that are not required of Christians, I believe, but if something was an abomination then, then I think it still is.

 

[Johann]

Hello @Behold,

Because of your constant persistent this why I have placed you on ignored.

Hello @Bob Estey ,

By all means whatever you may think.

I love you both and hope the best for you in your life.

You are not here to defend the Scriptures, and you believe the Messiah has already come. As it is written, "For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ" (Philippians 3:18).

So, @Behold is correct-he seem to have hit a raw nerve, and on ignore he goes.

Your approach comes across as whimsical, which is not fitting, as we are called to speak with sincerity and truth: "Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one" (Colossians 4:6).


J.

 

[Wick Stick]

I don't agree with that. The Lord was talking to the Jews, but he wanted us to hear what he said.

So it's like when I talk to my wife, but my son is standing nearby and I want him to hear what I'm saying?

You know... I think that still puts us in the category of FOR us rather than TO us.

 

[Marvelloustime]

What JESUS or jesus we follow and love mattered . I suggest we all learn about the ONE in that bible and love and embrace
all things He taught and later the apostels taught .

@amigo de christo

 

[Bob Estey]

So it's like when I talk to my wife, but my son is standing nearby and I want him to hear what I'm saying?

You know... I think that still puts us in the category of FOR us rather than TO us.

I don't know if wanting your son to hear what you are saying to your wife is the same thing. I assume you aren't writing it down in a book and making it available to him.

There's no way that I can think of that the Lord can get us altogether and tell us something, so maybe he talked to the Jews, had it all written down, and then made it available for us to read. Perhaps it doesn't really matter whether it's FOR us or TO us. It just is what it is.

 

[Marvelloustime]

meats , drinks , days , sacrfices for sin by blood of animals . THAT NO Longer applies to us .
But if any man dares to try and reconcile sin , THEY GETTING REBUKED .
example . if a man tries to say HEY we aint under the law , ITS OKAY NOW to be gay , THAT MAN better fear
for the rod is a coming . i am so wore out with people who use grace as a license to omit and overlook certain sins .

@amigo de christo

 

[Wick Stick]

I don't know if wanting your son to hear what you are saying to your wife is the same thing. I assume you aren't writing it down in a book and making it available to him.

There's no way that I can think of that the Lord can get us altogether and tell us something, so maybe he talked to the Jews, had it all written down, and then made it available for us to read. Perhaps it doesn't really matter whether it's FOR us or TO us. It just is what it is.

I think it matters. If I tell my wife to grab something from the store, I don't mean for my son to go grab something from the store. But I do mean for him to know what's going on.

Likewise, if God tells Israel to offer sacrifices, that doesn't necessarily mean we should offer sacrifices... but perhaps there's something we are meant to learn there? And, if Jesus tells His disciples to do certain things, that doesn't necessarily mean that we are meant to do the same things or are even capable of it.

 

[Bob Estey]

I think it matters. If I tell my wife to grab something from the store, I don't mean for my son to go grab something from the store. But I do mean for him to know what's going on.

Likewise, if God tells Israel to offer sacrifices, that doesn't necessarily mean we should offer sacrifices... but perhaps there's something we are meant to learn there? And, if Jesus tells His disciples to do certain things, that doesn't necessarily mean that we are meant to do the same things or are even capable of it.

The Lord told the Jews what to do to be safe and happy. He had them write it down so that we could read it. It is what it is, isn't it?

 

[Behold]

I don't think things change. There are things that are required of the Jews that are not required of Christians, I believe, but if something was an abomination then, then I think it still is.

One of the things that is an "abomination"... according to God is... "Bribery."...
This is explained as a "false balance" that is bought and paid for....

And here is a Sermon Topic that wont be "preached" next Sunday...

= If a Christian defrauds another Christian, in business.. in life..... cheats them..... deceives them.... abuses them this way..

Then guess what happens to that person who did that?

A.) Jesus Himself is the "avenger" who will find you.

Ananias and Sapphira found this out, the hard way.​

 

[Skovand]

Agreed. The Bible was not written to us. If it was, it would not need to be translated. It was written to people thousands of years ago. But we can benefit from it. We can love it and learn it. You just can’t Americanize it and westernize it and expect to understand the Jewishness of it.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @Ritajanice,

It is that way sometimes, cause I do desire to help if it be so by the Spirit of Christ, because I do genuinely care for peoples spiritual maturity, and well being. I hope to get to live a little while longer I just don't know how much time I have left. Here lately I have become more close to listening to old videos I have watched on www.cult.love, which has helped me significantly in my own personal growth over the past 7 years. I don't desire to come off as a jerk, but unfortunately I do, because peoples feelings tend to get involved. It's hard to communicate online like this especially with people you never face to face engage with. You do not know a person on the other side of the screen, the things they have seen, witnessed, what they truly do believe concerning things, and sometimes they also glom onto other people for support (just in my way of learning again from these old videos). Even so I believe that the bible is something that is not to be taken for granted as people typically can manipulate the scripture, and use also emotionalism within it. That is why so many people argue back and forth because, they typically do not desire truth, and truth was something I never sought for a long time. I've changed a lot on the way I use to believe when I am confronted with realities faced in context of the bible... such as it being written to certain people groups of a time of people whom were living... and breathing... even waiting for the return of the Lord Jesus. That is why a lot of my perception has changed due to believing that he has already came back, and has take care of all things and now today we choose. We choose how we live, and people can almost usually live in their emotions and feelings, and not in truth which I assume breaks through the feelings and it is a reality which one can not alter.

 

[Lambano]

I'm sure Ms. Lucille McGillicuddy would have wanted you to have it.

She was such a nice lady.

 

[MatthewG]

The Bible itself, is helpful for us, even though it was not written directly to Wanda Yonchichvak in Germany directly.

Ephesians 5:26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,

Concerning the church in that day. That was too pure, without blemish, and holy. This scripture is helpful in fortifying the understanding that the word that we have even though it was not to us directly, in a spiritual sense helps us by washing of the word in and through our hearts, and minds as we read it today. Taking away the things of the world that fills our hearts and minds, and replacing them with something which is better. That is to have mindful thinking of things that bring life and spiritual life at best.

Paul encourages the Saints in Rome, in which he had stated:

Romans 12:2 2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Working is a good way to pay our bills, take care of our wife/husband/children, have food on the plate, have a car to get back and forth to work... etc. Our minds, and hearts can get polluted with the cares of this life, and even seek for say sex/rocknroll/drugs, or the healthy benefits of life, more than Yahavah/God himself. That is why Paul writes to the Saints who lived in Rome at that time. Encouraging them, to not conform to the ways, maybe even the way the people around them may have felt, even their emotions concerning the things of the flesh, because the priority for Paul was to preach the message of the heavenly and spiritual over the matter of the flesh though still interchangeably becoming a man as under law to some people under the law of Moses in his day, and to those not under the law of Moses as people not under the law of Moses to win Christ Jesus; however the priority was not set on this world exactly, but what was God's will, by abiding in the Lord Yeshua as Paul had went around preaching the gospel to all the world he had known at that time in order for his mission to be complete before being killed off.

Paul taught the people of 1 Thessalonians 4:3 that God's will was sanctification, a process just like how water plants process through their systems to purify water, by eliminating bacteria. Sanctification is a process of similar spiritually, in which the once way of the heart and mind is renewed to the things concerning the will of God, which is good, pleasing, and perfect. In 1 Thessalonians 5:18, Paul writes to them, saying that it's God's will in Christ Jesus, to pray continually, give thanks (no matter the circumstances), and rejoice always. In a few verses later in Romans 12:14-16. Paul calls for rejoicing with those who rejoice, being sad with those who are sad, blessing those who persecute you, living in harmony with one another (typically the flesh and ways of the world are to fight one another), not being conceited, not to be proud, and enjoy the company of the lowly.

The Bible is truly wonderful, however, the eschatology side of things is where many things can get misconstrued, for sure.

 

[MatthewG]

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[MatthewG]

A Reflection on Scripture: Written For Us, Not To Us

Greetings to all who may come across this message.

It has taken me years of study, reflection, and prayer to begin grasping the depth and context of the Bible. I believe Scripture is one of the greatest collections of writings ever assembled — composed by men, inspired by God, and preserved for our benefit by Yahavah. Yet I also hold a nuanced view: while the Bible was written for us, I do not believe it was written directly to us.

This perspective may challenge some within the Bible-believing community, especially those raised in traditional church settings. That’s okay. We all come to understanding through different paths. But I invite you to pause and consider the historical and covenantal context of Scripture.

The Old Testament was written to and about Israel. When Yeshua (Jesus) came, He declared that He was sent “only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). Gentiles were later grafted in — some even described as the bride of Christ — during a time when the apostles were actively proclaiming the return of the Lord to their generation.

So I ask:
How can a letter addressed to “the saints in Rome” (Romans 1:7) be applied directly to us today, in full context?
Who has the authority to claim that every passage was written to our modern audience, when many were clearly directed to specific people in a specific time?

Some may respond with concepts like “dual prophecy,” “spiritual application,” or “history repeats itself.” These frameworks can be helpful, but they don’t erase the original audience or intent.
In my view:
• Was the Bible written to us directly? No.
• Was it written for us — to guide, instruct, and reveal spiritual truth? Absolutely.

Jesus, in His day, called the Jews to repentance, warning of judgment if they did not turn from their ways. Can those warnings apply to us today? Perhaps not in the same historical sense, but the spiritual principles remain powerful.

This kind of discussion may be uncomfortable for some, but I believe it’s necessary. We must be willing to challenge traditions that have been passed down without full context. Scripture deserves to be read with reverence, but also with discernment.

I find the Bible to be essential for spiritual nourishment. When read in context and in partnership with the Holy Spirit, it strengthens our faith in the Father and in the Son of God. It teaches us not only what was said — but why, to whom, and how we might learn from it today.