The Bible on remarriage.

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Aunty Jane

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To prioritize genetic diversity is a natural mechanism in most animals and also in humans. Neither animals nor humans need some "anti-incest" written biblical law to not do it. Most animals and most people will not do it naturally.

Your position is becoming confused and a bit nonsensical. People and animals were not doing it before the Bible was even written with the law to not do it. So, it was the Bible that came later.
Right up until the time of Jacob, Israelites were still marrying close relatives without breaking any law of God or nature. The fact that God had to make a law on incest and outline it very specifically indicates that it was not unnatural in OT times to marry close kin. Only after their release from slavery in Egypt did God make it the law for Israel.
 

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To prioritize genetic diversity is a natural mechanism in most animals and also in humans. Neither animals nor humans need some "anti-incest" written biblical law to not do it. Most animals and most people will not do it naturally.

Your position is becoming confused and a bit nonsensical. People and animals were not doing it before the Bible was even written with the law to not do it. So, it was the Bible that came later.
There were no mutations in the beginning. That is why Adam and Eve's children married each other, and no mutations for generations. God knew when to make it a law as enough time had passed to make it necessary.
 

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Right up until the time of Jacob, Israelites were still marrying close relatives without breaking any law of God or nature. The fact that God had to make a law on incest and outline it very specifically indicates that it was not unnatural in OT times to marry close kin. Only after their release from slavery in Egypt did God make it the law for Israel.
Parts of the law were necessary for all mankind. Incest was one of those.
 
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Parts of the law were necessary for all mankind. Incest was one of those.
Yes, we can see the results of incest and know why God had to make laws to prevent the products of a contaminated, sin laden gene pool.

Going back to Noah’s day...all humankind descended from just one family....Noah’s grandchildren had to inter-marry to produce the human race that descended from them. This continued right up to the time when God gave Israel his laws. As you said, Abraham married his sister.....Isaac married his cousin Rebekah, and Jacob also married his two cousins.

No law of God was broken, until it was time to put a stop to it. God knew when it was that time.
 

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Yes, we can see the results of incest and know why God had to make laws to prevent the products of a contaminated, sin laden gene pool.

Going back to Noah’s day...all humankind descended from just one family....Noah’s grandchildren had to inter-marry to produce the human race that descended from them. This continued right up to the time when God gave Israel his laws. As you said, Abraham married his sister.....Isaac married his cousin Rebekah, and Jacob also married his two cousins.

No law of God was broken, until it was time to put a stop to it. God knew when it was that time.
Yes, I mentioned Abraham's sister earlier in #14.
 

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No...the Law has been fulfilled. All that remains are the traditions as a witness.
It is only the Ten Commandments that were the covenant - Ex. 34:28. The marriage laws are still standing. But those laws that could be fulfilled by Christ are no longer in effect. That goes for the clean and unclean animals. It is no longer a sin to eat a rat. When God commanded Peter to kill and eat those unclean animals on the sheet, He in essence was saying the Gentiles can become God's people. That is when the Holy Spirit fell upon Cornelius and his family. See Leviticus 20:25-26 25 You shall therefore distinguish between clean animals and unclean, between unclean birds and clean, and you shall not make yourselves abominable by beast or by bird, or by any kind of living thing that creeps on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean. 26 And you shall be holy to Me, for I the Lord am holy, and have separated you from the peoples, that you should be Mine.
 

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Why are some many out in the weeds on this issue of marriage, looking at self issues and relationships, rather than the one relationship that got it into the Bible from the beginning: between mankind and God--between the Bride and the Groom?

Do "Christians" not understand that the little image of God and marriage made manifest in our own lives--was only an example--not that we should make of more importance, but that we might know and understand our relationship with Him?
 

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But those laws that could be fulfilled by Christ are no longer in effect.
That's what I said.

Jesus fulfilled "the law and the prophets", without except.

"If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law."

This we have in Christ.
 

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That's what I said.

Jesus fulfilled "the law and the prophets", without except.

"If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law."

This we have in Christ.
Yet Paul does imply that for a woman she can only remarry in the Lord once her husband is dead by the law. 1 Cor. 7:39.

39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.

Its different for men.
 
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There were no mutations in the beginning. That is why Adam and Eve's children married each other, and no mutations for generations. God knew when to make it a law as enough time had passed to make it necessary.
Don't you know that there were people long before the Bible and the vast majority of humanity lived outside of the small Jewish territory and so had no knowledge of the Bible?

I am honestly uncertain if you really do not know. Because your statements stopped making sense a while ago.
 

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Right up until the time of Jacob, Israelites were still marrying close relatives without breaking any law of God or nature. The fact that God had to make a law on incest and outline it very specifically indicates that it was not unnatural in OT times to marry close kin. Only after their release from slavery in Egypt did God make it the law for Israel.
Ancient Mesopotamia (including Babylonia): Close-kin marriage was generally restricted. Legal texts (e.g., Hammurabi’s Code) and family documents emphasize marriage, inheritance, and kinship rules that typically prohibit marriage between direct ascendants/descendants and between siblings in ordinary society.

Ancient India: Norms varied by period, region, caste, and text. Classical Vedic and later Dharmashastra literature generally forbids sexual relations with direct ascendants/descendants and has complex prescriptions about allowed and forbidden degrees of kin marriage.

Ancient China: Confucian and legal codes strongly regulated kin marriage; incest (parent–child, sibling) was condemned and prohibited.

 

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Yet Paul does imply that for a woman she can only remarry in the Lord once her husband is dead by the law. 1 Cor. 7:39.

39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.

Its different for men.
It is good to remember that spoke on th cusp of both Jews and the Gentiles, including many of Israeli tradition, and that generation that Jesus said all these things would come upon.

Nonetheless, going forward all was fulfilled by Christ, the Last.
 

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Don't you know that there were people long before the Bible and the vast majority of humanity lived outside of the small Jewish territory and so had no knowledge of the Bible?

I am honestly uncertain if you really do not know. Because your statements stopped making sense a while ago.
No..."In the beginning" means "In the beginning." All that was before was "void."
 

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No..."In the beginning" means "In the beginning." All that was before was "void."
What are you even talking about? You believe that there was "void" before the book of Genesis was written down (or composed) in Babylonia?
 

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No, Moses wrote Genesis after the fact, but marriage originated with Adam and Eve.
That is a nice small piece of biblical interpretation, but it has nothing to do with the post you reacted to. People lived all over the world before the Bible or without ever hearing about the Mosaic Law.