The Body Of This Death

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O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? - Romans 7:24.

What is; the body of this death? What was Paul talking about? Writing to a group of people saying; the body of this death!

The body of this death! The body of this death. Romans 8 gives the answer to the question of Romans 7 that Paul asks.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. - Romans 8:6-7.

A Christian that lives from the same knowledge they were born with is what is described as a carnal Christian. They judge based on their knowledge and their knowledge is an opponent to the knowledge of the Lord. So they cannot judge all things as scripture said you will.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. - 1 Corinthians 2:15.

What is your judgement ..easier to say what it isn't. They cannot judge based on who they are, or the Judgment of another believer. They cannot judge Christ to be in other believers..old knowledge does not see Christ in you..they do not see Christ in themselves. They judge flesh they judge works..they judge based on what they know. That mind that has no righteous judgement. What is the Judgment of another believer?

It isn't righteous judgement but it is a judgment based on, other things, outer works, outer happenings, it is a flesh mind. Stop saying God is judging the world by tragedy; that is a foolish judgement.

Righteous judgement; every believer Born Again has God as their father..by Christ in you the hope of glory. Christ in them. Carnality judges based on what they see. It is an absolute opponent, and confrontational knowledge to the knowledge of the Lord. You are an opponent to the things of your father.

A better word is; disgraceful!

You not only judge by your knowledge you cannot know or have another knowledge until you can see the Carnality of your belief. Most never see it ..they stay in Judgment of All Things based on their knowledge and it brings judgment upon themselves.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? - Romans 2:3.

What is scripture doing when you read. It rebukes your mind and gives you the mind of another! Seeing through the mind, or the eyes of another is; understanding. How do you get the understanding of the Lord. You see through his eyes, you do not look through your eyes but you look through the eyes of another, and see what they see. You have to have the mind of Christ. Without the mind of Christ you are carnal. Even if you are only getting bits and pieces..stay with it, you must keep moving, keep growing, keep your hand to the plow as it is written.

What is the mind of Christ? It is 'knowledge of the Lord.' You want the mind of Christ..get a different knowledge. Not just any knowledge..but the knowledge that IS Him. He and He alone is; knowledge. THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LORD!

What is the dumbing down of a believer? Their mind! It is the knowledge they were born with. Have you ever been around a believer who could never seem to grow in understanding. And if You know them long enough they seemed to get dumber. No mind renewal..no growth..just the same old mind of good and evil, that mind is a downward motivation. Like gravity it will drag you DOWN. They are dumb!

You will not have to be a rocket scientist to understand the things of God. Why is that? He is there ready and willing to renew your mind; for you have the mind of Christ available to you. But you're mind can only be renewed by the scriptures with the help of the Holy Spirit as you yield to him. You can spot a believer that is not yielded from a hundred miles off. Because they still have the old knowledge and that old knowledge lacks, it is ignorant. That knowledge cannot know the things of God; you will fly your colors. You will look like you cannot fit in this world. You fit or live in this world as him with knowledge. Not just trying to be like him; that is carnal.

As a matter of fact the scriptures says that knowledge is a boxing opponent to your father himself.

What is the cure? From a scriptural standpoint what is the cure? The knowledge of the Lord. You will need the mind of Christ in this world. There is no getting around it you have to have a different mind. Don't be a stick-in-the-mud. Give yourself to the things of God and see if he will not renew your mind to Christ as life. That is where his knowledge begins.. in you. The mind that is 'also in Christ Jesus our lord!

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. - 1 Corinthians 2:16.

Scripture says; the mind of Christ is available to every born again believer! Get that mind ..the only mind that fits you and your existence in this world.
 
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O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? - Romans 7:24.

What is; the body of this death? What was Paul talking about? Writing to a group of people saying; the body of this death!

The body of this death! The body of this death. Romans 8 gives the answer to the question of Romans 7 that Paul asks.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. - Romans 8:6-7.

A Christian that lives from the same knowledge they were born with is what is described as a carnal Christian. They judge based on their knowledge and their knowledge is an opponent to the knowledge of the Lord. So they cannot judge all things as scripture said you will.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. - 1 Corinthians 2:15.

What is your judgement ..easier to say what it isn't. They cannot judge based on who they are, or the Judgment of another believer. They cannot judge Christ to be in other believers..old knowledge does not see Christ in you..they do not see Christ in themselves. They judge flesh they judge works..they judge based on what they know. That mind that has no righteous judgement. What is the Judgment of another believer?

It isn't righteous judgement but it is a judgment based on, other things, outer works, outer happenings, it is a flesh mind. Stop saying God is judging the world by tragedy; that is a foolish judgement.

Righteous judgement; every believer Born Again has God as their father..by Christ in you the hope of glory. Christ in them. Carnality judges based on what they see. It is an absolute opponent, and confrontational knowledge to the knowledge of the Lord. You are an opponent to the things of your father.

A better word is; disgraceful!

You not only judge by your knowledge you cannot know or have another knowledge until you can see the Carnality of your belief. Most never see it ..they stay in Judgment of All Things based on their knowledge and it brings judgment upon themselves.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? - Romans 2:3.

What is scripture doing when you read. It rebukes your mind and gives you the mind of another! Seeing through the mind, or the eyes of another is; understanding. How do you get the understanding of the Lord. You see through his eyes, you do not look through your eyes but you look through the eyes of another, and see what they see. You have to have the mind of Christ. Without the mind of Christ you are carnal. Even if you are only getting bits and pieces..stay with it, you must keep moving, keep growing, keep your hand to the plow as it is written.

What is the mind of Christ? It is 'knowledge of the Lord.' You want the mind of Christ..get a different knowledge. Not just any knowledge..but the knowledge that IS Him. He and He alone is; knowledge. THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LORD!

What is the dumbing down of a believer? Their mind! It is the knowledge they were born with. Have you ever been around a believer who could never seem to grow in understanding. And if You know them long enough they seemed to get dumber. No mind renewal..no growth..just the same old mind of good and evil, that mind is a downward motivation. Like gravity it will drag you DOWN. They are dumb!

You will not have to be a rocket scientist to understand the things of God. Why is that? He is there ready and willing to renew your mind; for you have the mind of Christ available to you. But you're mind can only be renewed by the scriptures with the help of the Holy Spirit as you yield to him. You can spot a believer that is not yielded from a hundred miles off. Because they still have the old knowledge and that old knowledge lacks, it is ignorant. That knowledge cannot know the things of God; you will fly your colors. You will look like you cannot fit in this world. You fit or live in this world as him with knowledge. Not just trying to be like him; that is carnal.

As a matter of fact the scriptures says that knowledge is a boxing opponent to your father himself.

What is the cure? From a scriptural standpoint what is the cure? The knowledge of the Lord. You will need the mind of Christ in this world. There is no getting around it you have to have a different mind. Don't be a stick-in-the-mud. Give yourself to the things of God and see if he will not renew your mind to Christ as life. That is where his knowledge begins.. in you. The mind that is 'also in Christ Jesus our lord!

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. - 1 Corinthians 2:16.

Scripture says; the mind of Christ is available to every born again believer! Get that mind ..the only mind that fits you and your existence in this world.
@soul man Some very humbling and wholesome Scripture quotes there...