The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

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Spiritual Israelite

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Exactly....you didn't address my point.

Noah...They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage then...Lot...They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built.

Does this sound like the end of the tribulation will be filled with these good times? Read Revelations....how does it present the earth at the end of the tribulations?
Do you think it's not worth considering EVERYTHING that Jesus said in order to get to the truth of this matter? Why only focus on that one thing?
 

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They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage then...They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built......does that sound like the end of the tribulation? If so, how????
The end of what tribulation exactly? Do you know that people don't all define "the tribulation" the same way? You seem very new to these types of discussions and don't seem to be aware of how people define terms various ways. So, define your terms so that we can be on the same page when discussing this.
 

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Can you guys stick with the issue I'm presenting????

With Noah...They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage then...With Lot...They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built......does that sound like the end of the tribulation? If so, how????
Can you try to not limit the discussion so much? Everything Jesus said has to be taken into consideration here in order to understand any part of what He said. Context is very important, so isolating some verses from all the rest and drawing conclusions just from those verses without considering context is not helpful in understanding the context of those verses. Do you understand that?
 

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Do you think it's not worth considering EVERYTHING that Jesus said in order to get to the truth of this matter? Why only focus on that one thing?
Jesus said it that way because he, being God...knew He would return twice. In the air then physically.
Perhaps you ought to consider everything.

Now, please explain the days of Noah and Lot. How does that "happy time" scenario fit into a Rev 19 end of the tribulation scenario.
 

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The end of what tribulation exactly? Do you know that people don't all define "the tribulation" the same way? You seem very new to these types of discussions and don't seem to be aware of how people define terms various ways. So, define your terms so that we can be on the same page when discussing this.
The seven year tribulation is between the resurrection/rapture and the arrival of Jesus in Rev 19 and Zech 14.
 

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Can you try to not limit the discussion so much? Everything Jesus said has to be taken into consideration here in order to understand any part of what He said. Context is very important, so isolating some verses from all the rest and drawing conclusions just from those verses without considering context is not helpful in understanding the context of those verses. Do you understand that?
I'm simply quoting what Jesus say...you seem to be disregarding it and still haven't explained the days of Noah and Lot comment Jesus made.
 

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Jesus said it that way because he, being God...knew He would return twice. In the air then physically.
Perhaps you ought to consider everything.
Look at how much detail I go into in my posts compared to yours and you're accusing me of not considering everything? You are apparently not a reasonable person.
 

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I'm simply quoting what Jesus say...you seem to be disregarding it
Okay, buddy. You are obviously very ignorant and immature and now you're saying I'm disregarding things, which I clearly am not. We're done. Let me know if you ever grow up.
 

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The seven year tribulation is between the resurrection/rapture and the arrival of Jesus in Rev 19 and Zech 14.
Are you comparing that to the flood of Noah's day and the fire that came down on Sodom in Lot's day or are you saying that occurs before what Jesus compared to the flood in Noah's day and the fire that came down on Sodom in Lot's day?
 

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Look at how much detail I go into in my posts compared to yours and you're accusing me of not considering everything? You are apparently not a reasonable person.
LOL....yes, great detail that didn't answer my question about the times of Noah and Lot.
Once again...how does that comment made by Jesus fit into an end of tribulation resurrection/rapture?
 

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Are you comparing that to the flood of Noah's day and the fire that came down on Sodom in Lot's day or are you saying that occurs before what Jesus compared to the flood in Noah's day and the fire that came down on Sodom in Lot's day?
I'm comparing it to what they were doing at that time...

Here's the description you keep avoiding....Noahs time...They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage then...
Lots time....They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built.

How does this fit into the end of the tribulation ?