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The Creator Of Heaven And Earth Is Calling His Children To Come Home!!

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    THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH IS CALLING HIS CHILDREN TO COME HOME!!IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE “THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE”Dear friends,The GOD of Abraham, the Creator of Heaven and earth, is calling his children to come home! In every age GOD has preserved a remnant of his people to serve him, from the time of Adam, Seth, Enoch, Methuselah, Noah, and Shem, were an unbroken line of people revealing his will. Abraham, the son of Terah, became the inheritor of this unbroken trust, idolatry had invited him on every side, but in vain, for he was faithful to GOD, and he adhered to the worship of the one true GOD.Abraham's great faith is one of the most striking things in all of the bible, because GOD told Abraham to leave his home in Ur, Mesopotamia, which is now in Iraq, and to go to a strange land where GOD would show him, a place where he had never been before. Abraham somehow, must be separated from his early life, away from the influence of family and friends, for they might interfere with the training that GOD was planning to give to him, his servant. When Abraham left Ur, he went with his father, his wife Sara, which was also his half sister, and Lot, his brother's son. Abraham must dwell amongst strangers, where he could not even explain his actions to be understood by friends. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned, and not understood by his idolatrous kindred. Our kindred do not necessarily follow the right path, and they are not often a good influence upon us, even though they may have been a help to us in time of need. Abraham was willing to leave home , family and friends, to do what GOD was calling him to do, and he was willing to go where ever GOD was calling him to go.If GOD called upon you to do the same thing, to leave family and friends, and to go to a strange country and to live amongst strangers; could you do that for him? Abraham was obedient to GOD and this is why GOD loved him so and entrusted him with so much. Few people have had this kind of faith in GOD, and are willing to put their lives in his hands. HE did not ask the soil was fertile, if the climate was healthful, or if there would be agreeable surroundings, or opportunities to amass wealth. GOD had spoken, and HIS servant must obey, for that is the happiest place on earth for any of us to be. Many of us are still being tested as Abraham was tested, even today.MAY GOD BLESS ALL AMENFROM WATT
     
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    IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE “THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE”Dear friends,GOD 's children do not always hear GOD speaking from the heavens, but HE calls them by the teachings of HIS WORD, and the events of His providence. They may be required to abandon a career that promises wealth and honor, to leave congenial and profitable associations, and to separate from kindred, and to enter upon a path that seems to lead to self denial, hardship, and sacrifice. GOD has a work for them to do, but a life of ease and the influence of friends and kindred would hinder the very traits essential for its development. HE calls them away from human influences and aid, and GOD lead them to feel the need of His help, and to depend upon HIM alone, that HE may reveal HIMSELF (EMMANUEL) to them. Who is willing to accept new duties and enter untried fields, doing GOD 's work with a willing heart?Abraham was born in Ur in 1996 BC, and Ur was one of the major cities of the Sumerians, which is located at the South of modern day Iraq. Abraham was 75 years old before he received GOD 's calling at Haran, now Harran, some 1000km North West of Ur in North Western Mesopotamia. From the age of 75, Abraham spent the next 100 years traveling South West through Damascus and Sechem before reaching Zoan, and from Zoan he traveled North East to Hebron, where he died at the age of 175. Hebron is in the Palestinian territory. Abraham bought a field there in Hebron to bury Sarah, and to this day the caves of burial are there, covered by a huge mosque, and what was once a field is now in the City of Hebron, and a site of many Israeli and Muslim confrontations.One of the most important things that man can ever learn is that we are not to lean on our own understanding of GOD. Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the LORD with all of thine heart; and lean not to thine own understanding. In all of the ways acknowledge HIM, and HE shall direct thy paths. Isaiah 55:8,9 For MY thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are MY ways your ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are MY ways higher than your ways, and MY thoughts than your thoughts. We are humans made of the dust of the earth, and we do not have the mind of GOD. Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge! of GOD! How unsearchable are his judgments,and HIS ways are past finding out! None of us who seek truth will ever find it out, if we try to pretend that we know the mind of GOD.So many of us try to put GOD into our little box and to use our logic on HIM, and it just will not work. We are human and made of dust, and we can not understand all things pertaining to GOD. GOD has told us all that is necessary for our salvation, and we need to learn not to start assuming too much. We really can not understand how GOD has been since the beginning and that HE has no end, and there are some things that we just have to accept. We can know the will of GOD, for HE does tell us this. 2 Peter 3:"9": The LORD is not slack concerning HIS promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.So we may not exactly understand just how GOD worked with Abraham, why GOD promised Abraham that hewould be the father of a great nation, and then waited to very long to fulfill that promise.. Perhaps Abraham even wondered if he had heard correctly, but he did. GOD has HIS OWN reasons, which may require for us to study, in order to understand, but just remember that GOD 's ways are higher than our ways. GOD can see the end from the beginning, and we can not, so let us put our trust in GOD.There might be some who would say that ISHMAEL was the first born son, and that he should have been the inheritor of the riches of Abraham, but it was GOD HIMSELF who decided that ISAAC was THE SON OF HIS PROMISE, and we need to learn early that, we do not have the mind of GOD, and that HE IS JUST, HOLY , AND GOOD IN ALL OF HIS WAYS. We were created from dust of the earth, and we do not have the mind of GOD.MAY GOD BLESS ALL AMENFROM WATT
     
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    THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH IS CALLING HIS CHILDREN TO COME HOME!!IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE “THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE”Dear friends,The GOD of Abraham, the Creator of Heaven and earth, is calling his children to come home! In every age GOD has preserved a remnant of his people to serve him, from the time of Adam, Seth, Enoch, Methuselah, Noah, and Shem, were an unbroken line of people revealing his will. Abraham, the son of Terah, became the inheritor of this unbroken trust, idolatry had invited him on every side, but in vain, for he was faithful to GOD, and he adhered to the worship of the one true GOD.Abraham's great faith is one of the most striking things in all of the bible, because GOD told Abraham to leave his home in Ur, Mesopotamia, which is now in Iraq, and to go to a strange land where GOD would show him, a place where he had never been before. Abraham somehow, must be separated from his early life, away from the influence of family and friends, for they might interfere with the training that GOD was planning to give to him, his servant. When Abraham left Ur, he went with his father, his wife Sara, which was also his half sister, and Lot, his brother's son. Abraham must dwell amongst strangers, where he could not even explain his actions to be understood by friends. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned, and not understood by his idolatrous kindred. Our kindred do not necessarily follow the right path, and they are not often a good influence upon us, even though they may have been a help to us in time of need. Abraham was willing to leave home , family and friends, to do what GOD was calling him to do, and he was willing to go where ever GOD was calling him to go.If GOD called upon you to do the same thing, to leave family and friends, and to go to a strange country and to live amongst strangers; could you do that for him? Abraham was obedient to GOD and this is why GOD loved him so and entrusted him with so much. Few people have had this kind of faith in GOD, and are willing to put their lives in his hands. HE did not ask the soil was fertile, if the climate was healthful, or if there would be agreeable surroundings, or opportunities to amass wealth. GOD had spoken, and HIS servant must obey, for that is the happiest place on earth for any of us to be. Many of us are still being tested as Abraham was tested, even today.MAY GOD BLESS ALL AMENFROM WATT
    Let me ask you the same Watt if God calls you out of your church/relgion into the land of strangers would you go and leave your church behind?? Would you even hear him call above your teachings of men ??
     
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    In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son And Of The Holy SpiritHere I Am Again Toshare The Truth Of God Love(kriss;56535)
    let Me Ask You The Same Watt If God Calls You Out Of Your Church/relgion Into The Land Of Strangers Would You Go And Leave Your Church Behind?? Would You Even Hear Him Call Above Your Teachings Of Men ??
    sorry... That Kind Of Question Is From Your Flesh....not From Spirit. For I Know I Am Belong To The True Church Founded By Jesus Himself....this Is What I Am Trying To Tell You All....to Come Back ...not To Be A Protestant.May God Forgive All Our SinAmenFrom Watt
     
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    IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE “THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE”Dear friends,For the Love of a SonTerah was Abraham's father and Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot, but Haran died before they left Ur of Chaldees. Abram brought his wife Sara to Haran, where Terah died at the age of two hundred and five years. Sara was barren and had no child. Abram was 75 years old when they left Haran for Canaan, and even then God promised Abram that he would be the father of a great nation. Every where that Abraham traveled, he built an altar on the way, and left it behind as he passed through. There was a famine in the land, and they had to go to Egypt, where the Pharaoh noticed the beauty of Sara, and he wanted her for his wife, because Abram had said that she was his sister. That was only a partial truth. Lot and Abram later separated, Lot went to Sodom, and Abram settled on the plains of Mamre, near Hebron, and he built yet another altar to the LORD. After Abram separated from Lot, GOD again made his promise to Abram, "And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. It is believed that Hagar was given to Sara as a handmaiden while they were in Egypt during the famine, and that Hagar came back with them to the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron. But the years went by, and Abraham and Sarah had no children, and Abraham began to wonder about God's great promise, and if he had misunderstood somehow. It was actually Sarah that suggested that Abraham take Hagar, the Egyptian handmaid of Sarah, for a secondary wife, so that he might produce an heir. Abraham and Sarah got tired of waiting, so they came up with their own plan for a child. GOD was testing the faith of Abraham and Sarah, and they fell short, because they leaned toward their understanding of things, and they failed to endure their trial. Sarah was so sure that she was long past the age of child bearing, and she seemed to forget that GOD is all powerful and able to do that which HE says. Polygamy had become so widespread that it had ceased to be regarded as a sin, but it was no less in violation of the law of GOD, and it is fatal to the sacredness and the peace of family relations.There was a time when Abram again complained to GOD about being childless still, and he asked GOD if his servant, Eliezer, was to be his heir, and GOD assured Abram that he would produce his own natural child. It was after ten years in the land of Canaan that Sara gave her handmaiden, Hagar, to be his wife, and he was now 85 years old, and he was 86 years old when Ishmael was born.Hagar was flattered with her new position as Abraham's wife, and she was the mother of his first son, Ishmael, and she was hoping to be the mother of a great nation that should descend from Abraham, and she became proud and boastful and treated her mistress, Sarah, with contempt. Mutual jealousies disturbed the once happy home, and he was forced to listen to the complaints of both, and he vainly tried to restore harmony. Even though it was at Sarah's earnest entreaty that Abraham had married Hagar, she now reproached him as the one at fault. Sarah told Abraham that when Hagar had seen that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes, and so Sarah dealt harshly with her, and Hagar fled from the home.An angel of the LORD found Hagar by a fountain of water and told her to return to her mistress, Sarah, and to submit herself into her hands, and she did so. The angel of the LORD said unto Hagar, "Behold thou art with child, and thou shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael, because the LORD has heard thy affliction." "And he will be a wild man, and every man's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the presence of all of his brethren." Genesis 16 And Hagar bare Abram a son, and Abram called his son's name, Ishmael. When the "angel" disappeared, Hagar, "called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou GOD seest me" (verse 13). It appears Hagar recognized that the "angel" who had spoken to her was really GOD. Genesis 17:9 And GOD said unto Abraham, Thou shall keep MY covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. 10 This is MY covenant, which ye shall keep, between ME and you and they seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt ME and you. 12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man in his generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with any money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. GOD knew then, just as he knows now that it does not take man long to forget him and his teachings and to go his own way, so GOD gave to Abraham a sign not so easily forgotten, the sign of circumcision. GOD never changes and HIS WORDS are forever. Heaven and earth may pass away, but his words will not fail.MAY GOD BLESS ALL AMENFROM WATT
     
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    IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRITHERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE “THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE”Dear friends,Genesis 17 :23 And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the man of Abraham's house, and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the self same day, as GOD had said unto him. 24 And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised of the flesh of his foreskin. 25 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised of the flesh of his foreskin. 26 In that selfsame day, was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son. 27 And all of the men of his house, born in his house, and bought with the money of a stranger, were circumcised with him. Stories have been told that Ishmael and Hagar were sent from the home of Abraham when the child was just a baby, but we can know that this can not be true, because Ishmael was circumcised in his father's house when he was 13 years old.Abraham had marked the result of the intermarriage of those who feared GOD and those who had feared him not, from the days of Cain to his own time. The consequences of his own marriage with Hagar, and the marriage connections of Ishmael and Lot, were before him. The lack of faith on the part of Abraham and Sarah, had resulted in the birth of Ishmael, the mingling of righteous seed with the ungodly. The father's influence upon his son was counteracted by that of the mother's idolatrous kindred, and by Ishmael's connection with heathen wives. The jealousy of Hagar, of the the wives that she chose for Ishmael, surrounded the family with a barrier that Abraham endeavored in vain to over come.THE LORD, through a holy angel, directed him to grant Sarah's desire; his love for Ishmael or Hagar ought not to stand in the way, for only thus could he restore harmony and happiness to his family. And the angel gave him the consoling promise that though separated from his father's home, Ishmael should not be forsaken by GOD; his life should be preserved, and he should become the father of a great nation .Abraham obeyed the angel's word, but it was not without keen suffering. The father's heart was heavy with unspoken grief as he sent away Hagar and his son. When Abraham was 99 years old, GOD changed the name of Abram to Abraham, and at that same time GOD changed the name of Sara to that of Sarah. When Abraham was 99 years old and when Ishmael was 13 years old, GOD repeated his promise of a son to both Abraham and to Sarah, his wife, and Abraham fell upon his face and laughed and said, "Shall a child be born to him that is an hundred years old? And shall Sarah that is 90 years old bear? Genesis 17:19 And GOD said, Sarah thy wife shall bare thee a son indeed, and thou shalt call him Isaac: and I will establish MY covenant, and with his seed after him.Gen 25:9,10 And his sons ISAAC and ISHMAEL buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre, The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sara his wife. So we may not exactly understand just how GOD worked with Abraham, why GOD promised Abraham that hewould be the father of a great nation, and then waited to very long to fulfill that promise. Perhaps Abraham even wondered if he had heard correctly, but he did. GOD has HIS OWN reason, which may require for us to study, in order to understand, but just remember that GOD's ways are higher than our ways. GOD can see the end from the beginning, and we can not, so let us put our trust in GOD.And as a perpetual reminder of HIS MERCY, she was bidden to call her child ISHMAEL, " GOD shall hear." Isaac - The Son of PromiseHebrews 11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. The birth of ISAAC, bringing, after a lifelong waiting, the fulfillment of their dearest hopes, filled the tents of Abraham and Sarah with gladness. But to Hagar this event was the overthrow of her fondly cherished ambitions. ISHMAEL, now a youth, had been regarded by all in the encampment as the heir of Abraham's wealth and the interior of the blessings promised to his descendants. Now he was suddenly set aside; and in their disappointment, mother and son hated the child of Sarah. The general rejoicing increased their jealousy, until ISHMAEL dared openly to mock the heir of GOD's promise. Sarah saw in ISHMAEL’s turbulent disposition a perpetual source of discord, and she appealed to Abraham, urging that Hagar and Ishmael be sent away from the encampment. The patriarch was thrown into great distress. How could he banish Ishmael his son, still dearly beloved? In his perplexity he pleaded for divine guidance. THE LORD, through a holy angel, directed him to grant Sarah's desire; his love for ISHMAEL or Hagar ought not to stand in the way, for only thus could he restore harmony and happiness to his family. And the angel gave him the consoling promise that though separated from his father's home, ISHMAEL should not be forsaken by GOD; his life should be preserved, and he should become the father of a great nation.The instruction given to Abraham touching the sacredness of the marriage relation was to be a lesson for all ages. It declares that the rights and happiness of this relation are to be carefully guarded, even at a great sacrifice. Sarah was the only true wife of Abraham. Her rights as a wife and mother no other person was entitled to share. She reverenced her husband, and in this she is presented in the New Testament as a worthy example. But she was unwilling that Abraham's affections should be given to another, and THE LORD did not reprove her for requiring the banishment of her rival. Both Abraham and Sarah distrusted THE POWER OF GOD, and it was this error that led to the marriage with Hagar.GOD instituted marriage in Eden with Adam and Eve, and polygamy is not of GOD 's design, and it is something that man ordained. and it has forever caused pain, and the world is suffering today for this. The hatred of the Arabs and Jews goes back to this day, in Abraham's time.MAY GOD BLESS ALL AMENFROM WATT
     
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    In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son And Of The Holy SpiritHere I Am Again Toshare The Truth Of God Lovesorry... That Kind Of Question Is From Your Flesh....not From Spirit. For I Know I Am Belong To The True Church Founded By Jesus Himself....this Is What I Am Trying To Tell You All....to Come Back ...not To Be A Protestant.May God Forgive All Our SinAmenFrom Watt
    My brother Jesus did not found your church. Why does your religion constantly break the commandments of God? Why do they pray to idols? why do they pray to the dead? Why do they have billions upon billions of dollars and we still have people starving to death in the 3rd world? If this was the true church ask yourself WWJD?
     
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    Watt, you are blinded by your ignorance. You will not see the truth for now, someday you WILL!
     
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    God is calling his children to come home- and you say this "home" is the Catholic church? Sorry Watt, but this time you are undoubtedly using your flesh- you are thinking only in the physical realm of things. This world does not belong to Christians- people who follow Christ are just mere visitors in this land passing through. You want a physical church- fine keep it. Ill rather look forward to my real home in heaven.
     
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    In The Name Of The Father And Of The Son And Of The Holy SpiritHere I Am Again Toshare The Truth Of God Lovesorry... That Kind Of Question Is From Your Flesh....not From Spirit. For I Know I Am Belong To The True Church Founded By Jesus Himself....this Is What I Am Trying To Tell You All....to Come Back ...not To Be A Protestant.May God Forgive All Our SinAmenFrom Watt
    All I did was turn your own question back on you amazing how if you give it to us thats holy but if we give it back to you its flesh such hypocrisy....I thought that might be your answer ...No.. it was not a flesh question it was a faith question asking if you practice what you preach.You clearly do notGod is no religious denomination he is God of the World and all and just as he called many Jews from their from their faith to a New Way in Jesus Christ. He will call his true church (the body of true believers) out of todays man made religions and traditions and back to him. Obviously you will not be willing to give up on your religion of mens traditions because of your lack of faith in God So You dare to preach faith to us when Your faith is in a religious system of men..... before God /Christ. And to say your religion is the only one based on Christ is just a down right lie to stay in your delusion. All Christian religions are based in Christ. And there is only one true church and it is the Body of Christ made of all true believers. and the word catholic or protestant are no where to be found ... Thats Gods Word..He looks to ones heart for his true church not the name over your Church Doors.. Hope you dont see this truth to late... but alas I fear you are blind and deafened by the words of men
     
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    "Polygamy had become so widespread that it had ceased to be regarded as a sin, but it was no less in violation of the law of GOD, and it is fatal to the sacredness and the peace of family relations."
    EXCEPT, you cannot show where it WAS named a sin.
     
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