The Dogs !?

[twinc]

who exactly are the dogs referred to "give not the food of the children to the dogs - to understand this correctly we must ask exactly who are the children and who the dogs - the children of God are those of all religions "who hear the word/s of God and keep it" and this is why Christianity has been given to those of all religions who have heard the word/s of God and kept it/them and the dogs are those who have not imho - twinc

 

[Helen]

@twinc I am glad that for once I can agree with you
It sounds like Jesus was saying a very harsh and unkind thing..in referring
to a non-Jew like that.
I can only presume that it was an accepted thing 'back then'.
But we know that Jesus saw past all things..and into this woman's very heart.
He knew just what He was doing before He spoke these words.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

who exactly are the dogs referred to "give not the food of the children to the dogs - to understand this correctly we must ask exactly who are the children and who the dogs - the children of God are those of all religions "who hear the word/s of God and keep it" and this is why Christianity has been given to those of all religions who have heard the word/s of God and kept it/them and the dogs are those who have not imho - twinc

I must not understand, or make too much out of nothing. How is this not seen as prophetic of the gospel of grace that would come after Christ was rejected, died, and was then raised from the dead: the gospel then offered to the gentiles. It was always going there. To the dogs and swine. To those unclean and crying out for mercy. Yes, Christ words were harsh, but His mercy for the woman spoke of what was to come: forgiveness through faith in The risen Christ. Personally I believe, that moment was orchestrated by the Father, for the Son to say those exact words, including them in scripture, validating Jesus as the messiah and unveiling the Fathers plan of mercy in giving the woman the true bread of life.

 

[Acadia]

I must not understand, or make too much out of nothing. How is this not seen as prophetic of the gospel of grace that would come after Christ was rejected, died, and was then raised from the dead: the gospel then offered to the gentiles. It was always going there. To the dogs and swine. To those unclean and crying out for mercy. Yes, Christ words were harsh, but His mercy for the woman spoke of what was to come: forgiveness through faith in The risen Christ. Personally I believe, that moment was orchestrated by the Father, for the Son to say those exact words, including them in scripture, validating Jesus as the messiah and unveiling the Fathers plan of mercy in giving the woman the true bread of life.

I agree. As I have understood it, Jesus was referring to the fact that she was a "Gentile". Yet, He recognized her faith and rewarded it. Salvation is by faith, as we know. Scripture also says that because of unbelief the Jews have been "cut off" (at least for a time) and the Gentiles have been "grafted in" by faith.

 

[Job]

the children of God are those of all religions

I disagree. Buddhists, Muslims and Hindus don't preach Christ crucified nor do they follow the Gospel.

 

[bbyrd009]

It sounds like Jesus was saying a very harsh and unkind thing..in referring
to a non-Jew like that.

her culture offered their children to Molech i guess...

 

[twinc]

I disagree. Buddhists, Muslims and Hindus don't preach Christ crucified nor do they follow the Gospel.

who said they did - you have got it all mixed up - that is why Jesus stated they must be born again as Christians - twinc

 

[Job]

who said they did - you have got it all mixed up - that is why Jesus stated they must be born again as Christians - twinc

You did.


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[bbyrd009]

who said they did - you have got it all mixed up - that is why Jesus stated they must be born again as Christians - twinc

um, you added the "as Christians" part, notice

 

[JohnPaul]

I always thought dogs referred to the actual animal, canines.

 

[marks]

I always thought dogs referred to the actual animal, canines.

Hi JohnPaul,

I think that was the immediate reference. Everyone knew about all the wild dogs roaming around. But people also had pets, so Jesus and this woman were just talking about what they knew, but to say, To the Jew first, and then to the Gentile. It's as if this woman was saying, yes, but to the Gentile also.

Very great faith! "I receive from God, as He has said."

Much love!
Mark

 

[JohnPaul]

Hi JohnPaul,

I think that was the immediate reference. Everyone knew about all the wild dogs roaming around. But people also had pets, so Jesus and this woman were just talking about what they knew, but to say, To the Jew first, and then to the Gentile. It's as if this woman was saying, yes, but to the Gentile also.

Very great faith! "I receive from God, as He has said."

Much love!
Mark

Thank you Mark.