The Easter Bunny

[FHII]

[SIZE=12pt]Symbols symbolise what you intend them to symbolise not what someone else intends them to symbolise[/SIZE]

That's an utterly rediculous statement, but I'll let it go at that.

 

[Born_Again]

Ive always wondered, with rabbits being mammals, where do they eggs come from anyway?

 

[farouk]

Ive always wondered, with rabbits being mammals, where do they eggs come from anyway?

Aren't Russian eggs something to do with it?

 

[bbyrd009]

That's an utterly rediculous statement, but I'll let it go at that.

i don't know, i think that is a valid point. I had to give up the rebel flag, even though it did not mean to me what it means to, say, black people, even though it took me a while to see that. I use that example because it shows both sides, and acknowledges the sense in which you are also correct. Easter and bunnies and eggs might scream "fertility rites" to me, yet i am advised to not be condemning other peoples' beliefs, or holidays, meaning that judging the fruit lies elsewhere, it seems.

 

[Mungo]

That's an utterly rediculous statement, but I'll let it go at that.

No it's not ridiculous. It's true. If I use a symbol to symbolise something then it means what I intend it to symbolise.

A rainbow is the symbol of God's Covenant with Noah.

It is also the symbol of the Gay Pride movement.

It is also the symbol of the Cursillos in Christianity movement.

In Buddism it symbolises the highest spiritual plane a person can access.

The rainbow means different things to different people.

 

[bbyrd009]

yes, well put. Now, is there a sense in which the rainbow is appropriated as a symbol, that one might then witness the fruit of, for themselves, their own opinion iow (again, a mostly personal symbology), and make comparisons or contrasts to other symbologies? Making FHII correct, in essence, at least in a sense? Of course. And these are defining, both of the appropriator and the judger of fruit. Which is not to say that either is "wrong" (unless they are being deliberately disingenuous). So, the concept might seem simple, but it can be seen to have many facets.

 

[epostle1]

Men didn't start wearing wedding rings until World War 2, to remind them of their wife back home. Wedding rings are a sign of love and fidelity and not a concession to paganism.

Post #95 explains "3 days and 3 nights"; There is no paganism going on with Easter eggs and the Easter Bunny. The false charge is a post 19th century invention.

 

[farouk]

Men didn't start wearing wedding rings until World War 2, to remind them of their wife back home. Wedding rings are a sign of love and fidelity and not a concession to paganism.

Post #95 explains "3 days and 3 nights"; There is no paganism going on with Easter eggs and the Easter Bunny. The false charge is a post 19th century invention.

Does anyone even have a problem with men's wedding rings? I wear mine because my wife gave it to me.

 

[FHII]

Men didn't start wearing wedding rings until World War 2, to remind them of their wife back home. Wedding rings are a sign of love and fidelity and not a concession to paganism.

Post #95 explains "3 days and 3 nights"; There is no paganism going on with Easter eggs and the Easter Bunny. The false charge is a post 19th century invention.

Post 95 was garbage. It shows just how little comprehension of the Bible people have. Really wasn't a post worth spending time on.

 

[bbyrd009]

in your opinion, yes, but there is no reason that you can't just leave it there, on the ground, for someone else to pick up. I benefitted from it, myself; and i was already aware of the concept, as anyone who has dealt with a Hebrew person saying "see you tomorrow" or something similar might attest. If the sun is still up, "tomorrow night" becomes "tonight," etc.

as to the rest, i dunno, but one must contemplate that, unless the poster was deliberately lying, you have basically just called his belief system "garbage," and this is quite simply a (thinly) disguised personal attack, and you now owe an apology, not an opinion. with all due respect.

 

[Mungo]

Post 95 was garbage. It shows just how little comprehension of the Bible people have. Really wasn't a post worth spending time on.

I'm coming to the conclusion that your posts are garbage and not worth spending time on.

 

[FHII]

in your opinion, yes, but there is no reason that you can't just leave it there, on the ground, for someone else to pick up. I benefitted from it, myself; and i was already aware of the concept, as anyone who has dealt with a Hebrew person saying "see you tomorrow" or something similar might attest. If the sun is still up, "tomorrow night" becomes "tonight," etc.

as to the rest, i dunno, but one must contemplate that, unless the poster was deliberately lying, you have basically just called his belief system "garbage," and this is quite simply a (thinly) disguised personal attack, and you now owe an apology, not an opinion. with all due respect.

First off, there will be no apology given. There is absolutely no doubt that what I have said is the truth.

Calling the truth a mere idiom IS garbage. Second, 3 Bible examples have been given to try to set a presidence for 3 days and 3 night not meaning 3 days and 3 nights. Two problems: 1. Setting a presidence doesn't make it true. It merely allows the possibility. 2. The example given FAIL to set the presidence IF you read carefully.

Furthermore... If you believe all the garbage about the easter bunny, eggs and even the name not having pagan origins, then I am not going to waste my time with you.

 

[bbyrd009]

First off, there will be no apology given. There is absolutely no doubt that what I have said is the truth.

"He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought"

so iow, you don't care that you owe an apology, or that you have disrespected someone else's beliefs, a completely personal, though thinly disguised personal attack; none of these are important to you, next to your God-like-itude. Ok. because God told you to be an insensitive jerk, and after all, you are just manifesting the Book here, doing what It says.

Calling the truth a mere idiom IS garbage.

in your opinion, maybe, but that does not reflect the truth, which is that when it is still daylight, and an Israelite tells you that they'll see you tomorrow night, they are planning on meeting you that evening (or more likely, they have adjusted their idiom to suit you, an English speaker, but that is how they understand each other, speaking Hebrew).

Second, 3 Bible examples have been given to try to set a presidence for 3 days and 3 night not meaning 3 days and 3 nights. Two problems: 1. Setting a presidence doesn't make it true. It merely allows the possibility. 2. The example given FAIL to set the presidence IF you read carefully.

ah, that is all pointless discussion of yesterday, imo, and can bear no fruit whatsoever, that i am able to witness; reverse eschatology, if you like.

Furthermore... If you believe all the garbage about the easter bunny, eggs and even the name not having pagan origins, then I am not going to waste my time with you.

ah, you mean "further-less," as i have already made my understanding only too clear there; i am going to buy some candy, because i like candy, and bunnies, because i have a little friend across the street, who still has a heart :) (which still does not fully express my mostly irrelevant opinion about Ishtar) Passover isn't going anywhere, it will still be there when she is ready, and if she wants to be a Catholic, i don't see any problems with that, because Catholics are good-hearted people, the doors are open down there, right now, and your church is locked right now. So, see what you will see.

and, thank God for small favors, i guess

 

[FHII]

"He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought"

so iow, you don't care that you owe an apology, or that you have disrespected someone else's beliefs, a completely personal, though thinly disguised personal attack; none of these are important to you, next to your God-like-itude. Ok. because God told you to be an insensitive jerk, and after all, you are just manifesting the Book here, doing what It says.


in your opinion, maybe, but that does not reflect the truth, which is that when it is still daylight, and an Israelite tells you that they'll see you tomorrow night, they are planning on meeting you that evening (or more likely, they have adjusted their idiom to suit you, an English speaker, but that is how they understand each other, speaking Hebrew).

ah, that is all pointless discussion of yesterday, imo, and can bear no fruit whatsoever, that i am able to witness; reverse eschatology, if you like.

ah, you mean "further-less," as i have already made my understanding only too clear there; i am going to buy some candy, because i like candy, and bunnies, because i have a little friend across the street, who still has a heart :) (which still does not fully express my mostly irrelevant opinion about Ishtar) Passover isn't going anywhere, it will still be there when she is ready, and if she wants to be a Catholic, i don't see any problems with that, because Catholics are good-hearted people, the doors are open down there, right now, and your church is locked right now. So, see what you will see.

and, thank God for small favors, i guess

Im not going to bother with you and your insulting tone. Do not bother me again with this type of post or you will be on my ignore list.

 

[bbyrd009]

Im not going to bother with you and your insulting tone. Do not bother me again with this type of post or you will be on my ignore list.

well, believe me, being a murderer and a whore, myself, who is also a god, i understand, and hold no grudges, no hard feelings or anything.
@ "insulting," that's rich, coming from the pot and all.

i forgive you.

after all, this is a forum--not IRL--where we bring our ideas and put them through the fire, so to speak.

I guess it is for others to judge what has burned up, and what has made it through;

which with all due respect, if you need help with that "ignore" thing, just holla, ok, because i think i'll pass on that respecting your Authoritay thing, and allow you to save your orders for your minions or whoever, not interested, sorry. Or by all means, keep giving them, if it makes you feel better, more in control, perhaps, helps keep the ol' ego intact, i guess.

Have a nice evening, and your final word;

 

[FHII]

I'm coming to the conclusion that your posts are garbage and not worth spending time on.

Then don't respond.

 

[FHII]

No it's not ridiculous. It's true. If I use a symbol to symbolise something then it means what I intend it to symbolise.

A rainbow is the symbol of God's Covenant with Noah.

It is also the symbol of the Gay Pride movement.

It is also the symbol of the Cursillos in Christianity movement.

In Buddism it symbolises the highest spiritual plane a person can access.

The rainbow means different things to different people.

[removed]

Mungo, doesn't it matter what God thinks? Can you prove to me that God's ok with mixing paganism with Christianity? Cause everything I see in the schoolmaster (the OT) says it isn't.

 

[Stranger]

FHI

When I allowed my kids to hunt easter eggs, I was not worshipping another god. They were not encouraged to worship another god. All they knew about Easter is that it was the time when Christ rose from the dead. The same with Christmas. The tree was simply part of the Christmas holiday when we acknowledge the birth of Christ. The gifts under the tree spoke to the gifts given to Christ at His birth.

Do you use the pagan terms for our days of the week. They are not Christian in origin. Do you say, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday ? Does that mean your mixing your worship of Christ with other gods? Of course not.

Stranger

 

[FHII]

FHI

When I allowed my kids to hunt easter eggs, I was not worshipping another god. They were not encouraged to worship another god. All they knew about Easter is that it was the time when Christ rose from the dead. The same with Christmas. The tree was simply part of the Christmas holiday when we acknowledge the birth of Christ. The gifts under the tree spoke to the gifts given to Christ at His birth.

Do you use the pagan terms for our days of the week. They are not Christian in origin. Do you say, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday ? Does that mean your mixing your worship of Christ with other gods? Of course not.

Stranger

Stranger,

Did you have your kids believing that the Easter Bunny brought an Easter basket to them or that Santa brought them presents? And did they really believe it? Causr I gotta admit.... I did.

So are you going to tell me it was always about Christ when Children believe that Santa has miracle power to bring every child a gift?

And what of the problem that it isn't even his birthday? Tell me what is true about Christmas. Nothing! Its all a lie.

As for pagan names for days of the week... You got a good point. Let's change them!

Yea... See. I don't have the power to do that. I can call Sunday "Sonday" and Monday. "Maryday" or whatever.... It ain't going to work out. But I can refuse to celebrate lies amd i can speak out about it.

 

[Stranger]

Stranger,

Did you have your kids believing that the Easter Bunny brought an Easter basket to them or that Santa brought them presents? And did they really believe it? Causr I gotta admit.... I did.

So are you going to tell me it was always about Christ when Children believe that Santa has miracle power to bring every child a gift?

And what of the problem that it isn't even his birthday? Tell me what is true about Christmas. Nothing! Its all a lie.

As for pagan names for days of the week... You got a good point. Let's change them!

Yea... See. I don't have the power to do that. I can call Sunday "Sonday" and Monday. "Maryday" or whatever.... It ain't going to work out. But I can refuse to celebrate lies amd i can speak out about it.

No, but we let them hunt easter eggs. They knew about Santa but we didn't demonize him. They knew that Christmas was about Jesus Christ.

You are always going to have people in the world who are not believers. They put their own take on the holiday. That doesn't mean that it removes my reason for celebrating Christmas or Easter.

You say you don't know when Christ was born. Whats wrong with having this day, Christmas, as the day to celebrate Christs birth?

You don't have power to change Christmas and Easter either. So are you going to now try and change the days of the week? My point is that even though you must acknowledge those days of the week, doesn't mean you are worshipping a false god.

Stranger