THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD

[Bruce-Leiter]

Only One Person Bruce!

It boggles your mind not because of its profundity but due to the erroneous nature of your belief.

F2F

No, three Persons in one God:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Jhn_10:30 I and my Father are one.
2Co_13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

Read the whole Gospel of John, and you'll see the mystery of the 3-in-1 divine nature that we can't comprehend but is taught clearly there.

 

[face2face]

No, three Persons in one God:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Jhn_10:30 I and my Father are one.
2Co_13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

Read the whole Gospel of John, and you'll see the mystery of the 3-in-1 divine nature that we can't comprehend but is taught clearly there.

At least you quoted the Shema!
Now believe it!

 

[GRACE ambassador]

It boggles your mind not because of its profundity but due to the erroneous nature of your belief.

Exactly these kind of statements that gets threads "locked-Up" (not convincing arguments that we requested to be stopped)!

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

At least you quoted the Shema!
Now believe it!

I believe in one God, not three Gods, but the New Testament has revealed him as three Persons, only hints of whom are given in the Old Testament. It's only through faith in Jesus Christ that we gain God the Father's acceptance.

 

[face2face]

I believe in one God, not three Gods, but the New Testament has revealed him as three Persons, only hints of whom are given in the Old Testament. It's only through faith in Jesus Christ that we gain God the Father's acceptance.

What you believe is the result of a long development of men's teachings which have been added to to over 1700 years.
If you ever want to learn the original Gospel text me.

 

[amigo de christo]

1. John 3:30 (NKJV)
“He must increase, but I must decrease.”

John the Baptist, in this verse, clearly acknowledges that his role is to point people to Christ and that his own prominence must diminish.
2. Galatians 6:14 (NKJV)
“But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.”

Paul insists that the only thing worth boasting about is the cross of Christ, not anything about himself.
3. 1 Corinthians 2:2 (NKJV)
“For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.”

Paul makes it clear that his message centers solely on Christ and His crucifixion, not on human wisdom or personal achievements.
4. 2 Corinthians 4:5 (NKJV)
“For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake.”

Paul explicitly states that the focus of their preaching is Christ Jesus, not themselves, and they consider themselves servants for the sake of Jesus.
5. Philippians 3:8 (NKJV)
“Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ.”

Paul shows that all his personal accomplishments are worthless compared to the surpassing worth of knowing Christ.
6. Colossians 1:28 (NKJV)
“Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.”

The focus of the apostolic message is Christ, and the goal is to lead others to maturity in Him.
7. John 12:32 (NKJV)
“And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.”

Jesus Himself declared that when He is lifted up (referring to His crucifixion), He will draw all people to Him, emphasizing that the focus should always be on Him.
8. 1 Peter 4:11 (NKJV)
“If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.”

Peter emphasizes that all service, ministry, and speech should be done in a way that glorifies God through Christ, not the individual.
These passages reinforce the biblical teaching that the focus should always be on Christ Jesus, not on oneself. The goal is to glorify Him and point others to His saving work.

What else did I miss @amigo de christo?

J.

have you even asked yourself WHY there is no mention oF JESUS
in THIS FATHERHOOD stuff you brought .
SURE Would have been a good way to PREACH HIM and HE CRUCIFIED .
ONLY i didnt seem to catch HIS NAME at all .
Paul preached JESUS CHRIST and him crucified . what you cut copied and pasted
only preached a partail truth , BUT GAVE NO REMINDER OF THE DIRE NECESSITY
for these people to REPENT to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
For pete sakes man , Look at what is going on my friend .
THEY Offer up an partial truth that GOD did create us all , that in a sense we are his offspring
BUT NO MENTION of HOW TO KNOW THAT GOD or TO BE SAVED . JESUS IS GETTING LEFT OUT .
NO LOVE OF GOD would do such a thing . As for me , I remind us again
JESUS told even the unbeliving jew you are of your father the DEVIL . WHILE GOD did create all
WHILE GOD DOES desire none to perish , ITS HIGH TIME WE REMIND all
of how to be saved and NOT PERISH . TIME TO preach the dire and aboslute necessary NEED to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

1. John 3:30 (NKJV)
“He must increase, but I must decrease.”

John the Baptist, in this verse, clearly acknowledges that his role is to point people to Christ and that his own prominence must diminish.
2. Galatians 6:14 (NKJV)
“But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.”

Paul insists that the only thing worth boasting about is the cross of Christ, not anything about himself.
3. 1 Corinthians 2:2 (NKJV)
“For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.”

Paul makes it clear that his message centers solely on Christ and His crucifixion, not on human wisdom or personal achievements.
4. 2 Corinthians 4:5 (NKJV)
“For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake.”

Paul explicitly states that the focus of their preaching is Christ Jesus, not themselves, and they consider themselves servants for the sake of Jesus.
5. Philippians 3:8 (NKJV)
“Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ.”

Paul shows that all his personal accomplishments are worthless compared to the surpassing worth of knowing Christ.
6. Colossians 1:28 (NKJV)
“Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.”

The focus of the apostolic message is Christ, and the goal is to lead others to maturity in Him.
7. John 12:32 (NKJV)
“And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.”

Jesus Himself declared that when He is lifted up (referring to His crucifixion), He will draw all people to Him, emphasizing that the focus should always be on Him.
8. 1 Peter 4:11 (NKJV)
“If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.”

Peter emphasizes that all service, ministry, and speech should be done in a way that glorifies God through Christ, not the individual.
These passages reinforce the biblical teaching that the focus should always be on Christ Jesus, not on oneself. The goal is to glorify Him and point others to His saving work.

What else did I miss @amigo de christo?

J.

now this is wnderful my friend .

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

What you believe is the result of a long development of men's teachings which have been added to to over 1700 years.
If you ever want to learn the original Gospel text me.

What I believe is what the Bible, God's Word, shows that God is like.

 

[amigo de christo]

What I believe is what the Bible, God's Word, shows that God is like.

sure wont argue with that my friend . but beware that we read it not through the lens of men and their denominations and etc
Rather read it for yourself and love and feast upon them lovey words of truth till the last breath ebbs out of those lungs
OR THE LORD do come . Keep that in mind . cause men LOVE to twist . oh boy do they love to twist
and justify their own beliefs and sins .

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

sure wont argue with that my friend . but beware that we read it not through the lens of men and their denominations and etc
Rather read it for yourself and love and feast upon them lovey words of truth till the last breath ebbs out of those lungs
OR THE LORD do come . Keep that in mind . cause men LOVE to twist . oh boy do they love to twist
and justify their own beliefs and sins .

I agree with you, amigo. That's why I have had the practice of reading all the way through the Bible a couple chapters a day for many years. It's more attractive the more I read it; I'm sure the Holy Spirit works that way through his Word. However, the Bible interprets itself instead of people's take on it. Only when people interpret the Bible on its own assumptions and meanings do they get at its truth.

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree with you, amigo. That's why I have had the practice of reading all the way through the Bible a couple chapters a day for many years. It's more attractive the more I read it; I'm sure the Holy Spirit works that way through his Word. However, the Bible interprets itself instead of people's take on it. Only when people interpret the Bible on its own assumptions and meanings do they get at its truth.

Feast on them lovey words as do a heavy set kid on his birthday cake my friend .
For every WORD is good for the soul of the hearer and doer .
Feast upon them words as do a starved lamb do its mothers teet
for the Words of the LORD are as honey to the taste and food to the soul of the lambs .
Be encouraged my friend . By grace i have read that bible hours daily for over eighteen years now .
AND AS YOU well said ITS More attractive the MORE ONE READS IT . feast on my friend .
Feast on . AND let all that has breath both praise and thank and thank and praise the GLORIOUS LORD .

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Feast on them lovey words as do a heavy set kid on his birthday cake my friend .
For every WORD is good for the soul of the hearer and doer .
Feast upon them words as do a starved lamb do its mothers teet
for the Words of the LORD are as honey to the taste and food to the soul of the lambs .
Be encouraged my friend . By grace i have read that bible hours daily for over eighteen years now .
AND AS YOU well said ITS More attractive the MORE ONE READS IT . feast on my friend .
Feast on . AND let all that has breath both praise and thank and thank and praise the GLORIOUS LORD .

Absolutely, and we will continue our fellowship, brother, on the other side of the grave with the victory of Jesus' empty tomb!

 

[Rita]

Please keep on topic, if the trinity keeps coming up in this discussion the thread will be locked.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Please keep on topic, if the trinity keeps coming up in this discussion the thread will be locked.

Why? That truth is at the heart of Christians' beliefs. If you lock me out because of that mention, I won't be back at all.

 

[Rita]

The issue is that it is against the rules to discuss the trinity. Regardless of whether you agree with that rule or not, I am actually trying to keep the thread open.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

The issue is that it is against the rules to discuss the trinity. Regardless of whether you agree with that rule or not, I am actually trying to keep the thread open.

Thank you, Rita. But why is there such a rule? You might as well ban discussions of God as one person (Jewish and Muslim), three Gods (Mormon), the universe (Asian religions), and taking a vacation (deism).

Please pass on my recommendation to the moderators as follows:

Block people who do name-calling and show disrespect for other forum participants, NOT topics. (What have you done about the one who calls Calvinists followers of Satan, a genuine lie?)

If they don't want to change that rule, I suggest that you change the name of your forums to "NON-Christian" or "Secular Forums."

 

[Rita]

I will not be discussing the matter anymore on here, for the time being it’s one of the rules.
The thread will remain open if the OP topic is discussed x