The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

[Phoneman777]

Sorry you lack a total understanding of Divine truth. I say that because once again profane thoughts about the biblical God should not be posted.
I give you credit for posting your ideas and trying to take a stand based on what your current ideas are

Where there is life there is hope. If you want to learn we would help you. If you want to stay ignorant we will let you go that also.

Let's get something straight, pal: YOUR TWISTED THEOLOGY IS WHAT'S IGNORANT AND PROFANE but unlike you and the rest of the "anti-free speech" crowd, I support your right/privilege to post it, although it distorts the true image of God as He Who loves, died for, and is desperate to save every last one of us, from Adam to last of us.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Of course we're totally depraved. "The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint." I disagree with the idea that God only makes house calls to a select few and that He barges in against their wish to be treated or not.

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me." - Revelation 3:20 KJV​

Revelation 3:20 is addressed to an apostate church, not the lost world.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Let's get something straight, pal: YOUR TWISTED THEOLOGY IS WHAT'S IGNORANT AND PROFANE but unlike you and the rest of the "anti-free speech" crowd, I support your right/privilege to post it, although it distorts the true image of God as He Who loves, died for, and is desperate to save every last one of us, from Adam to last of us.

Coming from someone who claims the Christ laid aside His divinity.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Let's get something straight, pal: YOUR TWISTED THEOLOGY IS WHAT'S IGNORANT AND PROFANE but unlike you and the rest of the "anti-free speech" crowd, I support your right/privilege to post it, although it distorts the true image of God as He Who loves, died for, and is desperate to save every last one of us, from Adam to last of us.

Oh, so God is now desperate to save ppl? Wow! And our theology is twisted and profane?

 

[Dave L]

Let's get something straight, pal: YOUR TWISTED THEOLOGY IS WHAT'S IGNORANT AND PROFANE but unlike you and the rest of the "anti-free speech" crowd, I support your right/privilege to post it, although it distorts the true image of God as He Who loves, died for, and is desperate to save every last one of us, from Adam to last of us.

Hey Phoneman, your pic reminds me of another Phoneman with a beard and sandy hair I knew years ago. He traveled around as a contractor and I would ride with him from time to time helping with installations. I was never a pole climber but remember him complaining about climbing those leaning poles.

 

[Waiting on him]

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me." - Revelation 3:20 KJV

I always saw this as Jesus speaking to the church, or Maybe those who believe their the church?

 

[Waiting on him]

I always saw this as Jesus speaking to the church, or Maybe those who believe their the church?

Sorry SG I hadn’t read your post #122

 

[SovereignGrace]

Sorry SG I hadn’t read your post #122

No problem my Brother.

 

[Waiting on him]

Here’s the thing, the gospel is irresistible news for those who God has shown their truth. I’ve yet to meet the man who told me, when presenting him the gospel stoped me and said, hold up Gods already shown me I’m a murderer, thief, selfish, ungrateful, etc, the list goes on, but I rejected his free pardon. So just stop right there I’ve already been shown and I don’t want it. JMO, God has to show a man himself in light of the truth, I don’t know and can’t speak for others, but for me this was devastating.

 

[friend of]

but I rejected his free pardon.

Anecdotal. Not all make that same choice.

 

[friend of]

You think a response to Christ saves. = salvation by works. It is God who must first save us before we can respond... in love for him.

Once again, the bible does not define Faith to be a work in such a sense. Please read Romans 4:3-5

 

[Dave L]

Once again, the bible does not define Faith to be a work in such a sense. Please read Romans 4:3-5

It isn't. But if you turn the gospel into law, human belief based in the sinful flesh becomes the condition for salvation and a work of the will.

 

[Waiting on him]

Anecdotal. Not all make that same choice.

Anecdotal? Yes. What I posted is based on personal experience. I meditated on this further this morning, and the parable of the sower and the seed came to mind for whatever reason. One receives the seed and is overcome with joy? Was this your experience?
My experience was it slew me, and brought about repentance.

 

[farouk]

Anecdotal? Yes. What I posted is based on personal experience. I meditated on this further this morning, and the parable of the sower and the seed came to mind for whatever reason. One receives the seed and is overcome with joy? Was this your experience?
My experience was it slew me, and brought about repentance.

The parable of the sower is so searching; we need to receive the good seed as ground that will bring forth fruit, otherwise there is no life.

 

[farouk]

It isn't. But if you turn the gospel into law, human belief based in the sinful flesh becomes the condition for salvation and a work of the will.

Like you put it in your spoof rendering of 'Amazing Grace', it's not conditional grace but amazing grace (or something like that).

 

[Waiting on him]

The parable of the sower is so searching; we need to receive the good seed as ground that will bring forth fruit, otherwise there is no life.

There are many gospels out there

 

[farouk]

There are many gospels out there

Sometimes it's 'another gospel, which is not another' (2 Corinthians 11.4).

 

[farouk]

Here’s the thing, the gospel is irresistible news for those who God has shown their truth. I’ve yet to meet the man who told me, when presenting him the gospel stoped me and said, hold up Gods already shown me I’m a murderer, thief, selfish, ungrateful, etc, the list goes on, but I rejected his free pardon. So just stop right there I’ve already been shown and I don’t want it. JMO, God has to show a man himself in light of the truth, I don’t know and can’t speak for others, but for me this was devastating.

Isaiah 55.11 shows the sheer power of the Word which will not return unto Him void.

 

[Waiting on him]

Isaiah 55.11 shows the sheer power of the Word which will not return unto Him void.

So true. The flesh profits nothing

 

[Waiting on him]

When the Spirit of God chooses to show us the true flesh man, this is where humility(humiliation) comes from.
I’ve seen myself in opposition to Christ. It’s pretty humiliating.