The good man that turned bad out of necessity

[Riven]

If you agree that they do, then you don’t need me to answer the question for you.

That's a cowardly way to dodge a question.

 

[Matthias]

That's a cowardly way to dodge a question.

It has nothing to do with cowardice. I question your motive for asking me the question. It isn’t to learn.

 

[Riven]

It has nothing to do with cowardice. I question your motive for asking me the question. It isn’t to learn.

You should have said that in the beginning. Why do you question my motives? Isn't curiosity enough?

 

[Matthias]

You should have said that in the beginning.

Perhaps I should have. I’m saying it now.

Why do you question my motives?

Because of your behavior.

Isn't curiosity enough?

Paul provided the answer to your question. If we already agree on the answer then what are you curious about?

 

[Riven]

Perhaps I should have. I’m saying it now.



Because of your behavior.



If we already agree on the matter then what are you curious about?

My behavior? What are you talking about?

 

[Matthias]

My behavior? What are you talking about?

* Sing it for him, Aretha. *

 

[Matthias]

Paul provided the answer to your question. If we already agree on the answer then what are you curious about?

@Riven if you truly have a question about what Paul wrote - I don’t believe that you do - then you should ask someone you trust and respect. I’ve suggested that you find a local pastor. I’ll add to that suggestion whoever it is here that is advising you behind the scenes.

 

[Riven]

@Riven if you truly have a question about what Paul wrote - I don’t believe that you do - then you should ask someone you trust and respect. I’ve suggested that you find a local pastor. I’ll add to that suggestion whoever it is here that is advising you behind the scenes.

Then the question will go unanswered because I do not trust or respect pastors.

 

[Matthias]

Then the question will go unanswered because I do not trust or respect pastors.

That I believe. I’m a pastor. You’re asking me, a person whom you neither trust nor respect, a question. That’s why I question your motive.

The problem is that Jesus has established pastors in the body. This is another example, provided by you, of you going against Jesus. That’s something a follower of Jesus cannot do.

 

[Riven]

That I believe. You’re asking a question to a person that you don’t trust and respect. That’s why I question your motive.

The problem is that Jesus has established pastors in the body. This is another example, provided by you, of you going against Jesus. That’s something a follower of Jesus cannot do.

By your own admission, you're an ex-pastor. That should put is on even footing.

 

[RLT63]

By your own admission, you're an ex-pastor. That should put is on even footing.

What is the question?

 

[Matthias]

By your own admission, you're an ex-pastor.

No. I’m a retired pastor. My pastoral ministry continues, and will until I die, but not from the pulpit in the small congregation of believers whom I served.

That should put is on even footing.

Even if it did, you don’t trust and respect me. I gave you good advice.

 

[Mancunian]

What is the question?

To be or not to be?

 

[Riven]

No. I’m a retired pastor. My pastoral ministry continues, and will until I die, but not from the pulpit in the small congregation of believers whom I served.

Okay... retired pastor.

Even if it did, you don’t trust and respect me. I gave you good advice.

Up until recently you were very willing to answer my questions. But if that is no longer the case, then so be it.

 

[Matthias]

Okay... retired pastor.

Thank you.

Up until recently you were very willing to answer my questions.

And you mine. Our relationship has recently changed.

But if that is no longer the case, then so be it.

Consult your non-pastor advisor(s).

 

[Matthias]

I do not trust or respect pastors.

I’ve known that from the beginning. What I didn’t know is whether or not that would change. I still don’t know, but I know now that it hasn’t yet.

 

[Riven]

And you mine. Our relationship has recently changed.

I wasn't aware we had a relationship. I'm curious, what has changed it in your mind?

Consult your non-pastor advisor(s).

As you wish.

 

[Matthias]

I wasn't aware we had a relationship.

All social interaction is a relationship.

 

[RLT63]

I wasn't aware we had a relationship. I'm curious, what has changed it in your mind?


As you wish.

Wha is your beef with pastors?

 

[Riven]

Wha is your beef with pastors?

Generally speaking, I find them to be rather uneducated. They believe in nonsense and they can't even explain why they believe what they believe. Why do you think they shout so much during the sermon? It's all an act, and not even a good one