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How can so many people who believe what is good resort to using terrible methods to solve what they believe is bad? Fixing a bad situation or a bad human being with a bad method isn't a right action. Good people can only create good outcomes, but this is not what I see. My opinion is as follows: People only believe they're good not that they know they're good or know what goodness is universally.

Christian's could agree with this problem, knowing that Jesus said "Only one is good, God"
 
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How can so many people who believe what is good resort to using terrible methods to solve what they believe is bad? Fixing a bad situation or a bad human being with a bad method isn't a right action. Good people can only create good outcomes, but this is not what I see. My opinion is as follows: People only believe they're good not that they know they're good or know what goodness is universally.

Christian's could agree with this problem, knowing that Jesus said "Only one is good, God"
Are you asking "Why the death penalty"?
 

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Next time someone asks you "Are you good" Take a moment to think about why you're saying "Yes"
 

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How can so many people who believe what is good resort to using terrible methods to solve what they believe is bad? Fixing a bad situation or a bad human being with a bad method isn't a right action. Good people can only create good outcomes, but this is not what I see. My opinion is as follows: People only believe they're good not that they know they're good or know what goodness is universally.

Christian's could agree with this problem, knowing that Jesus said "Only one is good, God"
Christian's could agree with this problem, knowing that Jesus said "Only one is good, God"

i AGREE
 

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i agree that people screw things up = God calls it sin.
So how have we becoming sure about what being good is? Where is our doubt about our own conduct in regards to knowing our good dead's are but dirty rags before God. Considering most people believe in a supreme being who does not accept any human as faultless, but it is strange how easily they forget that. For instance Slander and gossip.


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None of my understanding about human beings with their personal beliefs make any sense.
 

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None of my understanding about human beings with their personal beliefs make any sense.
This is why the FATHER sent the SON who died for us that we may come out of darkness by the Power of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope.
Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Romans ch5
 

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So how have we becoming sure about what being good is? Where is our doubt about our own conduct in regards to knowing our good dead's are but dirty rags before God. Considering most people believe in a supreme being who does not accept any human as faultless, but it is strange how easily they forget that. For instance Slander and gossip.

It's in your Bible and these questions that you have can all be answered by Christianity 101.

The word of God is the book of truth. If you want to know the truth you will read it. Then you will read it again. You cant cherry pick verses out of the bble which fit into your thinking. You supposed to read it to find out what the truth is. All of your questions and musings are elementary. You have no foundation in truth so it would be pointless to try to answer your questions.

Your answers are in the foundation. You cant start building until there is a foundation! Read the Bible cover to cover twice and then you will ask much better questions!
 
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This is why the FATHER sent the SON who died for us that we may come out of darkness by the Power of the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope.
Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Romans ch5
Exactly. Nothing of people's beliefs make any sense.
 

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It's in your Bible and these questions that you have can all be answered by Christianity 101.

The word of God is the book of truth. If you want to know the truth you will read it. Then you will read it again. You cant cherry pick verses out of the bble which fit into your thinking. You supposed to read it to find out what the truth is. All of your questions and musings are elementary. You have no foundation in truth so it would be pointless to try to answer your questions.

Your answers are in the foundation. You cant start building until there is a foundation! Read the Bible cover to cover twice and then you will ask much better questions!
You want to talk Bible. Alright let's talk about how trustworthy those manuscripts are

You realise there is no original source new testament material? Most Christian's would accept this as a fact. Which means that what they believe is inherent, which is really to believe a copy is inherent. Do you think all the people who reproduced copies over the centuries are also inspired by the spirit of God?
 
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Exactly. Nothing of people's beliefs make any sense.

This is why we run toe the LORD Jesus Christ = our Creator

Listen to HIM - John 16:33

"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace.
In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
 
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This is why we run toe the LORD Jesus Christ = our Creator

Listen to HIM - John 16:33

"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace.
In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
Believing has caused more conflict globally than reliable knowledge ever has. All our scientific understanding at present is under threat of being undone by belief.
 

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Believing has caused more conflict globally than reliable knowledge ever has. All our scientific understanding at present is under threat of being undone by belief.
Our scientific knowledge has caused these conflicts = Instant murder of millions of people in a second thru nuclear bombs

Compare that to the ETERNAL SALVATION of Trillions of People thru the GOSPEL
 

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Our scientific knowledge has caused these conflicts = Instant murder of millions of people in a second thru nuclear bombs

Compare that to the ETERNAL SALVATION of Trillions of People thru the GOSPEL
I disagree. Science isn't our problem here, using science that caterers to our beliefs is the problem.
 

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our beliefs is the problem

There you have the kernel of the problem, I am the problem.

Do you have an answer?

If not look very hard at what Christianity teaches, that ALL have Sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.
That salvation, unlike all other religions is not based on our works etc, but is given to those who will receive it and live accordingly.
 
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This is the LOVE of God

Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you. For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him;
and when you saw it, you did not afterward repent and believe him."

 

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Where did our beliefs ORIGINATE ???
From one assumption that a person believed was a fact. Like I've said over and over, our human brain does not have a processing centre devoted to managing beliefs. Best our brain can do is to use other processors that are not equipped in managing belief based information. You know I flew a small portion of this theory in front of Sam Harris, in the hope it would peek his interests. Nothing....