THE GOSPELS ARE NOT NEW TESTAMENT

[Doug]

Reader,

The born again are going to reign on This Earth, with The Lord Jesus.

If you've never visited Jerusalem, then you will for 1000 yrs.., if you are born again.

See the "new birth in Christ", and then the "millennial reign of Christ".....if you want to be a part of it.

[Luk 12:32 KJV] 32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

The little flock gets the kingdom on earth ........Israel is called sheep,,,,the little flock is the believing remnant of Israel.........Gentiles will enter the kingdom depending on how Israel was treated in the tribulation

 

[LoveYeshua]

I am saying that technically the four gospels arent new testament.....the new testament can not be in force until the death of the testator.....it wouldnt matter at what stage of the gospels he died......upon his death it would put in force the new testament

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After his death and resurrection, Jesus said to the 11;​

The Great Commission​

Mat 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

Mat 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, evenunto the end of the world. Amen.

The Great Commission​

Mrk 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

Mrk 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

He left His testament for us!

 

[Behold]

I am saying that technically the four gospels arent new testament.....the new testament can not be in force until the death of the testator.....it wouldnt matter at what stage of the gospels he died......upon his death it would put in force the new testament

The Gospels give the account of the One who is the New Covenant.

And at the end of the Gospel(s) He sheds His Blood, that is the blood atonement, that is the New Covenant.

What is missing?

Paul is missing, as He came later, and explained it, but it happened as our redemption, as described as the crucifixion of Christ, as found in The Gospels.

Why is the bible like this??
Its because the word of God is always "progressive revelation".......its always BEING revealed, as it continues..

For example........we See The Cross of Christ being Revealed in Genesis, when we are shown that someone is coming who is going to "crush the head of the Devil" (Serpent).....so That is the first book of the Bible, revealing the Crucifixion of Christ as found in The Gospels.... that Paul later explains as "the Gospel of the GRACE of GOD".

So, we see that Genesis reveals the coming Messiah...., and The Gospels produce Him as the Virgin born = God man who is Jesus The Christ on The Cross.... who is the New Covenant.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Doug, in prophecy it is written clearly that at jesus return he will establish the kingdom here on earth, after 1000 years another prophecy states there will be a new earth and a new kingdom with GOD the father and Son living within it, see the book of revelations. if you want the details let me know i will take the time write up fthe details for you.

Blessings

 

[shepherdsword]

When you say the gospel is more then Jesus Dying on the Cross, you are proving that you are "anti-Cross" and incredibly deceived.

See you just proved you are a Cross Denier, by trying to ADD TO, The Cross of Christ, your opinion that something else is necessary.

Jesus told you that HE is the ONLY WAY to The Father,... John 14:6..... and you just denied it AGAIN... @LoveYeshua

The cross is only the beginning. Being born again is only the beginning. I would work on my

[Mat 5:2-3 KJV] 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus was teaching about the principles of the kingdom of heaven which is the prophetic kingdom on earth offered to Israel.........the kingdom was foretold in the old testament

regardless of whether his teachings were new testament or not, it remains that the gospels did not reflect the new testament since Christ did not die til the end of the gospels

This is also at the end of the gospels. It makes everything He taught part of the gospel:

Mt 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[LoveYeshua]

When you say the gospel is more then Jesus Dying on the Cross, you are proving that you are "anti-Cross" and incredibly deceived.

See you just proved you are a Cross Denier, by trying to ADD TO, The Cross of Christ, your opinion that something else is necessary.

Jesus told you that HE is the ONLY WAY to The Father,... John 14:6..... and you just denied it AGAIN... @LoveYeshua

I am not anti cross, without Jesus sacrifice we would not have any hope, please do not say in my place things I did not.

Also I am sorry for earlier, I should not have lashed out. please forgive me.

Blessings, your Brother in Christ.

 

[Behold]

The cross is only the beginning. Being born again is only the beginning. I would work on my

The Cross of Christ is this....

Jesus said......>"I am THE WAY to the Father, an no person comes to the Father but by ME".

That is : THE CROSS OF CHRIST..


So, do you see WATER there, Mr Water Baptism?
Yes you do, because you belong to a WATER CULT

 

[Behold]

I am not anti cross, without Jesus sacrifice we would not have any hope, please do not say in my place things I did not.

The Cross of Christ......is where God and sinful man (all of us) are allowed to be forgiven forever, and restored to Eternal spiritual union with God........as "born again".

After we are born again, because God has accepted our FAITH in Christ............then later, we are to be water baptized..

I was water baptized 11 years after i was born again., and that was 7 yrs, after i was called into the Ministry.

Water Baptism is symbolic......its a public confession.......its to be understood as symbolically dying as a sinner, and now being found "In Christ" we are raised to newness of Life.

Now what is the issue?
The issue is that there are cults that tell you that IF you are water baptized you are going to heaven, and that is not the case.

Jesus said....>"You must be born again".....Spiritually, and that is not found as... WATER Baptism.... Reader.

FAITH in CHRIST is why God will save you, and after you are saved, you then may be water baptized., and if you are not, then you are a Christian, born again, who never got water baptized and there are plenty of those on earth right now.

 

[Doug]

He left His testament for us!

The new testament was his shed blood and death to redeem the sins Israel committed under the old testament

 

[Doug]

This is also at the end of the gospels. It makes everything He taught part of the gospel:

Mt 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

The disciples were given this command......they were to preach the gospel of the kingdom (the kingdom on earth) and teach the Gentiles in the millennial kingdom......................[Zec 8:23 KJV] 23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days [it shall come to pass], that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard [that] God [is] with you.

 

[LoveYeshua]

The disciples were given this command......they were to preach the gospel of the kingdom (the kingdom on earth) and teach the Gentiles in the millennial kingdom......................[Zec 8:23 KJV] 23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days [it shall come to pass], that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard [that] God [is] with you.

There are plenty of evidence that the disciples started to preach to the gentiles not long after Jesus ascended to heaven, they DID preached BEFORE the millennial kingdom. see Acts

 

[LoveYeshua]

The new testament was his shed blood and death to redeem the sins Israel committed under the old testament

Much more than that you forgot the teachings of Jesus!

 

[LoveYeshua]

The Cross of Christ......is where God and sinful man (all of us) are allowed to be forgiven forever, and restored to Eternal spiritual union with God........as "born again".

After we are born again, because God has accepted our FAITH in Christ............then later, we are to be water baptized..

I was water baptized 11 years after i was born again., and that was 7 yrs, after i was called into the Ministry.

Water Baptism is symbolic......its a public confession.......its to be understood as symbolically dying as a sinner, and now being found "In Christ" we are raised to newness of Life.

Now what is the issue?
The issue is that there are cults that tell you that IF you are water baptized you are going to heaven, and that is not the case.

Jesus said....>"You must be born again".....Spiritually, and that is not found as... WATER Baptism.... Reader.

FAITH in CHRIST is why God will save you, and after you are saved, you then may be water baptized., and if you are not, then you are a Christian, born again, who never got water baptized and there are plenty of those on earth right now.

I agree with you on this.

I will ask a personal question but fell free to reply or not,

Did Christ ever appear to you in a vision or dream?

 

[shepherdsword]

The disciples were given this command......they were to preach the gospel of the kingdom (the kingdom on earth) and teach the Gentiles in the millennial kingdom......................[Zec 8:23 KJV] 23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days [it shall come to pass], that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard [that] God [is] with you.

This command by Jesus had nothing to do with the millennial kingdom. Keep clutching at straws

 

[David in NJ]

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

The gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) are not new testament gospels.

Hebrews 9:17 clearly states that the new testament did not take effect until the death of the Lord Jesus Christ. A testament is not in force while the testator is alive.

Jesus, in all the gospels, was alive during his earthly ministry. In all these gospels, it is still old testament. Jesus is still upholding the law. Jesus was not crucified, dead, buried, and risen, until the end of these gospels (Matthew 5:17 Matthew 19:17).

In the gospels, Jesus is ministering to Israel. Jesus, and the twelve Apostles, are preaching the gospel of the kingdom to Israel. The gospel of the kingdom is that, the prophetic, Davidic, kingdom on earth, promised to Israel, was at hand (Matthew 4:23 Matthew 8:11 Luke 1:32).

In the gospels, Jesus would shed his blood to establish the new testament with Israel: therefore, it could be said, that the gospels are transitional, in that, Jesus brings in the change from old testament, to new.

Doug, why are you self-sabotaging your mind and heart with unbelief?

The SAVIOR of the world Says: "this Gospel will be preached in all the world as a Witness...."

The Gospel is the Message/Witness of the NEW TESTAMENT that God Prophesied, in Genesis, would Come.

 

[Behold]

Did Christ ever appear to you in a vision

Not in His literal body.

My visitation happened in 1996, in the summer, in my living room when i was alone.
I was already a Christian for years, but had become over time a very worldly believer....unconcerned about the things of God.
Uninterested.
I was reading quietly (and not the Bible) , and suddenly something happened to me from above. (Holy Spirit).
Ive never been the same.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Not in His literal body.

My visitation happened in 1996, in the summer, in my living room when i was alone.
I was already a Christian for years, but had become over time a very worldly believer....unconcerned about the things of God.
Uninterested.
I was reading quietly (and not the Bible) , and suddenly something happened to me from above. (Holy Spirit).
Ive never been the same.

I knew it, similar to me also Brother, we may have some differences in our beliefs but now I understand your fervour in proclaiming the gospel!

Blessings.