The great mystery = Jesus is Jehovah

[winc]

study the scriptures to see if this is so - your comments - winc

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

study the scriptures to see if this is so - your comments - winc

Are you Jehovahs witness ?

 

[winc]

Are you Jehovahs witness ?

strangely enough the answer is yes but then so are you - the mystery deepens,so see my follow on topic "the real Jehovah witnesses" - winc

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

Only the simple minded believe the lies of:
Charles Taze Russell.
And Rutherford.
And Franz. (he was the nuttiest of them all)

 

[jerzy]

In 194 Watchtower Bible And Tract Society of New York, INC (I have it stated this way in their booklet in my native language translation of 1987) stated that the Jews came up with the word Jehovah in second half of the first millennium.


As far as I know, the word doesn't appear in the ancient scripts.

God is not a man and doesn't need to be known by a man made name-tag. Man should know God from His word and acts.

The word "onoma" used to mean authority among other things. Thus God changed "names" of some people.

The followers of Christ are granted intimacy to call God "our Father".

Alas, not many seem to follow the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Arnie Manitoba]

In 194 Watchtower Bible And Tract Society of New York, INC (I have it stated this way in their booklet in my native language translation of 1987) stated that the Jews came up with the word Jehovah in second half of the first millennium.


As far as I know, the word doesn't appear in the ancient scripts.

God is not a man and doesn't need to be known by a man made name-tag. Man should know God from His word and acts.

The word "onoma" used to mean authority among other things. Thus God changed "names" of some people.

The followers of Christ are granted intimacy to call God "our Father".

Alas, not many seem to follow the Lord Jesus Christ.

It is pretty hard to trust anything the Watchtowers says. I have most of their "books" .... and especially the early ones from the 1800's up to the 1920's.

They had so many falsehoods and failed prophecies in them , the watchtower gathered them back up so as not to be embarrassed (caught) (exposed).

Some of the books did get distributed after the offending pages were cut out .... .... but I have the very rare originals with all the pages still intact.

It makes Watchtower furious , they even offered me $300 for one small book so they could destroy it. I told them no.

Watchtower has made so many blatant errors and mistakes I am surprised they are still around. Cult expert Walter Martin says they survive because the congregants are the type of folks who cannot always think for themselves and are easily mislead.

It is sad to see nice people get led astray by clever liars from the Watchtower headquarters..
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Back to the name of God issues ...... The most widely accepted pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) is YAHWEH , though JEHOVAH is used in many Bibles,

YHWH has been used since Genesis in the bible .... and the Mesha Stele is a stone (clay) inscription from about 840 BC so it is not something invented by the Jews in the first millennium.

Proper pronunciation of YHWH is unknown because Jews were prohibited from saying it. So Yes ... the vowels are added by man and may not be completely accurate.

But at this moment we can be certain that the Watchtower information is not reliable.

Nevertheless , we know for certain YHWH means "I AM WHO I AM" when God spoke to Moses.

י. YHWH in Hebrew looks something like this יְהֹוָה

 

[jerzy]

It is pretty hard to trust anything the Watchtowers says. I have most of their "books" .... and especially the early ones from the 1800's up to the 1920's.

They had so many falsehoods and failed prophecies in them , the watchtower gathered them back up so as not to be embarrassed (caught) (exposed).

Some of the books did get distributed after the offending pages were cut out .... .... but I have the very rare originals with all the pages still intact.

It makes Watchtower furious , they even offered me $300 for one small book so they could destroy it. I told them no.

Watchtower has made so many blatant errors and mistakes I am surprised they are still around. Cult expert Walter Martin says they survive because the congregants are the type of folks who cannot always think for themselves and are easily mislead.

It is sad to see nice people get led astray by clever liars from the Watchtower headquarters..

My friend left them after he found out that they recalled their booklets on Jesus' return in 1975.

You wouldn't believe what they did to him.

Back to the name of God issues ...... The most widely accepted pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) is YAHWEH , though JEHOVAH is used in many Bibles

I am not convinced that it should be pronounced since apparently each of the letters bears a meaning.

YHWH has been used since Genesis in the bible ....

No contest

...the Mesha Stele is a stone (clay) inscription from about 840 BC so it is not something invented by the Jews in the first millennium.

I didn't say that YHWH was invented.

Proper pronunciation of YHWH is unknown because Jews were prohibited from saying it.

Saying what?

[quote]So Yes ... the vowels are added by man and may not be completely accurate.[/quote]

There is no problem with Abba, isn't?

Why then rejecting the intimacy granted by God for a man made name-tag?

But at this moment we can be certain that the Watchtower information is not reliable.

Not sure what you are referring to. Should I look up for the pronunciation of YHWH on Mesha Stele?

I find no proof there:

Yahweh (

/ˈjɑːweɪ/ or /ˈjɑːhweɪ/; Hebrew: יהוה‎), often rendered Jehovah /dʒɨˈhoʊvə/ or the LORD (in small capitals), is the "God of Israel" in the Hebrew Bible. Yahweh is a modern scholarly vocalization of the name as it appears in Hebrew, where it is written without vowels as יהוה (YHWH), called the Tetragrammaton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Nevertheless , we know for certain YHWH means "I AM WHO I AM" when God spoke to Moses.

Clearly not Yahveh.

 

[us2are1]

study the scriptures to see if this is so - your comments - winc

Not true. There was never anyone named Jesus or Jehovah. There was hwhy and ÅIhsou'ß. they are the same entity and person but they wrote the mystery they are not the mystery.