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Discussion in 'NonChristian Help Forum' started by djstav, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. djstav

    djstav Active Member

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    But then in certain circumstances you don't. If you're going to claim that children under a certain age are all saved regardless of faith & belief in Jesus, then the requirement for salvation is bogus.
     
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    Who knows maybe having mental illness excludes me from faith based salvation too.
     
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    A natural born man "has a natural spirit".

    Comprehend, "the spirit of man" is simply his "truth, IN his heart".

    Not the mans MIND, but rather "his Heart".

    A mans Carnal Mind, is where thoughts of ideas, and weighing (between this and that) of knowledge is logically concluded.

    A mans "spirit" in his heart IS simply his "truths".

    If you love someone "from your heart".
    It is simply your truth and not based on loving that person from the "logical" Mind, that concludes "love", based on finances, looks, prestige, cool car, etc.

    Mans natural spirit CAN become subjected to its own MINDS lies and deception.
    It is called LYING to yourself and convincing yourself to believe your own Mindful Lies.

    Such a person may be called, heartless, soulless, a psychopath....however ...

    Living men are not without a heart or without a soul.

    A man who calls upon the Lord, knows the truth in his own heart.

    You certainly may be Against God, but do you also believe you have ZERO truths within your own spirit in your heart?

    You do not KNOW the Truth in your spirit, IF you love someone, what is your own name, what food you like, where you work?

    God is not fooled.
    A man who calls on the Lord, IS doing so from the truth in his heart, or Not.

    Be it the mans truth...God is listening.
    Be it the mans lie.......God is acknowledging the lie, and the deceit thereof, as scripture notifies us.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Need a Q-tip?

    I said no such thing.

    Men have a "basis" for BELIEF.

    It is BASED on hearing, seeing, experiencing, trusting.....

    Babies are not held ACCOUNTABLE for what they have not yet heard, seen, experienced, trusted....

    Babies are GIVEN, what men such as yourself can not receive.

    You have heard, seen, experienced....
    Gods Word, Gods Miracles, Gods Creations....
    And willfully Rejected Him, in favor of another of His creations who Rejected Gods Truth.

    It is you who is without the gift of faith, because you Reject Him.

    It is not dead babies, without Him.
    They have been Given His Gift of Faith-FULLNESS.

    Glory to God,
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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Why would a MENTAL illness exclude you?

    Clearly Scripture notifies you, God searches the heart, not your MIND.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    I'm so tired of Christians changing the rules just so they can appear right in everything they say. Is it believe what you say, or believe in what Jesus say's, there is a difference. It's like you just want me to believe you, that you don't give a rat's about what Jesus really thinks.

    Stop trying to be Jesus for me, you're all hopeless at it.
     
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    Let Jesus be Jesus & get out of his way!
     
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    34 Then the King shall say to those who will be on his right: ‘Come, you blessed of my Father. Possess the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

    35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in;

    36 naked, and you covered me; sick, and you visited me; I was in prison, and you came to me.’

    37 Then the just will answer him, saying: ‘Lord, when have we see you hungry, and fed you; thirsty, and given you drink?

    38 And when have we seen you a stranger, and taken you in? Or naked, and covered you?

    39 Or when did we see you sick, or in prison, and visit to you?’

    40 And in response, the King shall say to them, ‘Amen I say to you, whenever you did this for one of these, the least of my brothers, you did it for me.’

    41 Then he shall also say, to those who will be on his left: ‘Depart from me, you accursed ones, into the eternal fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry, and you did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and you did not give me to drink;

    43 I was a stranger and you did not take me in; naked, and you did not cover me; sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.’

    44 Then they will also answer him, saying: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you?’

    45 Then he shall respond to them by saying: ‘Amen I say to you, whenever you did not do it to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.’

    46 And these shall go into eternal punishment, but the just shall go into eternal life.”
     
  9. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    Said the blind man standing at the precipice.
     
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    I do so want to die, I hate this place, you just can't get any real help from anyone. You try being sick in a world like this and you'll see how well people take care of you.
     
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    2.2 billion Christian's and the earth is still a mess.
     
  12. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    Like I said, God's wrath is on all who do not believe in Christ.
     
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    No, it's not, it's those who do as Jesus does. Belief is just the beginning, you must become like Christ if you wish to enter the kingdom.
     
  14. Dave L

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    Works follow salvation. Not the other way around.
     
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    I said to become like Jesus having spiritual fruit fitting for the service of God. (1 Corinthians 13) What's the point of believing in Jesus but never moving from belief to action. I can see myself, that I am not even close to the believing part, but you are. So I'd like to see some real fruit from Christian's so I can identify something real about those beliefs.
     
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    I mean how can any Christian expect other people to believe if they are acting like devil's.

    Rom 2:24 CPDV
    (For because of you the name of God is being blasphemed among the Gentiles, just as it was written.)
     
  17. Dave L

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    If you truly believe in Jesus, it is because he gave you a new heart that acts like him and wants to do good.
     
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    So why get on people's backs about them not believing. If it's up to Jesus to change a heart then get on Jesus back not ours.
     
  19. Dave L

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    If you love people, you want them to experience the same joy and fulfillment you have.
     
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    i understood you, but of course Jesus Worshippers will not, and i would only suggest that after you have crossed the Sea of Reeds there is still a lot of wilderness to go through, ok. In another perspective you have broken up Nehushtan, and that is a good thing, but pride has come with this, right? Fwiw that will make you useless for 10-20 years if you let it imo. did me anyway

    so, i know the cock-sureness of all the oracles in here can be irritating, i still react to them too, and imo these are not going to change, or rather as they are changed by hopefully you a new crop will take their place anyway, so it is pointless to be angry at little kids arguing so to speak, and will only reflect back on you ok, and diminish your vital message

    to put that another way you are going to interact with those at your level, and whom you choose to interact with is a description of your spiritual state, or at least a facet of it. So iow which little kid in the vid is the deceived idiot that you are going to engage with and hip up :)
     
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