There is no 'dead Abraham', other than his dead body waiting to be resurrected from the dead.
Once again, you relegate "death" as limited to the "body" only...I've shown you numerous times that Jesus Himself said a
"soul" can be destroyed along with the body in hell, the "soul that sinneth shall die" and that a soul can be saved "from death".
Unfortunately, since you've been seduced by satanic doctrine, you think "death" doesn't mean exactly what it means - a cessation of life - and seek to assign it a new meaning, which somehow means "a continuation of life".
In your satanic blindness, you don't see that it was God Who said in the Eden that the wages of sin would be death but the Serpent denied God's Word as you do so here.
You keep insisting "death" is but "separation between God and eternally existing, lost souls" but you cannot point to a single verse which describes a "soul" as "immortal" while I have shown you over and over that "God only hath immortality" and that
we -- "
we" which refers to the living soul which which is comprised of the body and the breath of life -- are to "seek for glory, honor, and immortality" and any fool knows you don't have to seek for something you already have.
You speak as though you believe Satan told the truth when he said "thou shalt not surely die" and that you disbelieve God Who said "thou shalt surely die". Why do you catholics insist on dragging satanic lies into the church?
Dragged in image worship after God commanded "thou shalt not bow unto them".
Dragged in "Sunday sacredness" while boastfully admitting there is not a single Bible verse that warrants it.
Dragged in the OT priesthood that the Cross ended below and our "High Priest Jesus" commenced above.
Dragged in "transubstantiation" lies while rejecting that salvation is symbolically eating and drinking of Christ.
Of course, you continue to insert your own doctrine into Scripture, and so change what it plainly says, into something it doesn't mean.
You mischaracterize the truth as "new doctrine" because your ancestral associates have been manufacturing lies like "transubstantiation" and "the Immaculate Conception of Mary" since their Antichrist movement arose within the early church and commenced marginalizing and terrorizing the saints and driving them almost to extinction. A blind fool knows that the bread and grape juice we eat and drink "to show the Lord's death" does not magically change into anything else and that Mary was conceived in her mother's womb exactly the same way as the rest of us - by her earthly father's SPERM fertilizing her mother's EGG. But, like all bad ideas, they must be forced upon the people under penalty of death, which is why more people were sentenced to death by the Inquisitions for the crime of "transubstantiation denial" than any other offense.
It's more example of you parabolizing the truth into a lie. Your dead Abraham is not God's living Abraham. God is the God of the living, not of the dead. That is why He calls Himself the God of saints, while there bodies are in the grave.
If you knew anything about the truth, you'd know in Scripture God often speaks of things that will be as though they have already happened as a show of His ultimate power to bring to pass His Word. God is "God of the living" because "though (the saint) die, he shall live". Get that? He "SHALL" live...in the Resurrection...in the last day...when Jesus comes with a shout...and "all who are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of Man, and they shall come forth".
By your asinine, catholic, Sir Thomas Moore erroneous interpretation, you make "God of the living" deny the rest of Scripture and, as Tyndale put it, you "stealeth away Christ's argument wherewith He proveth the Resurrection".
you point out what any carnal thinker would. Natural mindedness is the natural man's refusal to accept anything, that is not defined by naturally mortal things on earth. And not calling parable and symbolic, what is not written as such.
I call it a parable because the passage contains symbolism!
Do all dead saints literally go to the flesh and bone bosom of Abraham?
Do dead folks see, hear, know, demonstrate wisdom, speak, praise God?
Do dead folks possess body parts in the interim period between the mortal body and Resurrection body?
Do the five brothers still have time after Jesus comes as a thief to collect the saints and the world implodes?
NO! Solomon plainly tells you "The living know that they will die, but the dead KNOW NOT ANYTHING"...until the resurrection...in the last day...when "they shall hear the voice of the Son of Man" and come forth from death.
We seek immortality of the body
I've already schooled you on this and will continue to do so:
The immortality that belongs to God alone is not limited His
body - for God is a Spirit - but
pertains to His existential being.
Likewise, this same immortality He will give to those who "seek for immortality"
also is not limited to our body but also pertains to our entire existential being....which means that presently there ain't a single thing about the living soul to which immortality pertains because God hasn't yet granted it to us.
But, you keep denying Genesis 2:7 KJV which says the Soul comes into existence and exists only as a consequence of the union of the body and the breath of life, which means at death when the body returns to the dust and the Breath returns to God "all flesh shall perish together and man shall again turn into dust".
We either have that glory and honor to be with Jesus forever now, or we don't:
Oh, now you have a glorified body? Then, please answer me this: are you willing to lie down on the tracks of an approaching train? Or, jump out of a plane without a parachute? Why?
Because your body is still subject to death because it's a "mortal body", not your "glorified body" which is made impervious to death by eating of the Tree of Life.
And if we depart this life without Jesus dwelling within our souls, then our immortality will be everlasting torment without Him.
"If any man hateth his brother, he is a murderer, and YE KNOW THAT NO MURDERER HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM".
Listen:
If the Soul that sinneth shall die,
if the wicked who do not seek immortality will not receive immortality,
if the wicked "shall be as though they had not been",
if "the former things are passed away",
and if no murderer hath eternal life,
HOW CAN HE HAVE ETERNAL SUFFERING?
Do you have Jesus Christ dwelling within your soul now?
Don't worry about me...worry about yourself.
Is He dwelling in you? Here's how you can tell:
"Hereby we do know that we know Him
IF we keep His commandments. He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him."
