The Insanity of the "right" to have guns!

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[Brakelite]

If nobody had picked up a gun the Nazis would be ruling half the world by now and the Japanese the other half..
Weapons are not evil in themselves, Jesus allowed some of the disciples to carry swords.
Peter in action in Gethsemane-
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There's a massive difference between a secular nation protecting it's citizens, to a God fearing church protecting it's members.
I agree with the idea that God established the United States for a purpose. Who knows what might have happened if those founding fathers who actually professed to be Christians actually trusted God rather than go about doing things their own way.
Many, including Washington, were Freemasons, so while good was working from His perspective, Satan had his agents working also. While Satan didn't have things all his own way, he most assuredly has ended up gaining a powerful influence. And don't believe for a moment that the United States isn't in scripture.
KJV Revelation 13:11-12
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

There's a massive difference between a secular nation protecting it's citizens, to a God fearing church protecting it's members.
I agree with the idea that God established the United States for a purpose. Who knows what might have happened if those founding fathers who actually professed to be Christians actually trusted God rather than go about doing things their own way.
Many, including Washington, were Freemasons, so while good was working from His perspective, Satan had his agents working also. While Satan didn't have things all his own way, he most assuredly has ended up gaining a powerful influence. And don't believe for a moment that the United States isn't in scripture.
KJV Revelation 13:11-12
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

wait… so you’re one of them mason haters?

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

So what happens when people refuse to turn in their guns, after they ban sporting rifles??

 

[Ziggy]

So, Rome was a tyrannical government in the book of Acts.
I don't suppose they would have "allowed" the Jews to own assault weapons.
Israel was a fierce army. But when Rome overcame them, they bacame subjected and persecuted and tortured and killed by them.
I don't suppose the swords that Peter baught were military grade. Perhaps from the rebels which roamed the wilderness of which even Paul himself was accused of being a party too.
How did Israel allow itself to be overcome by Rome in the first place?
Ah.. they lost wars. They lost to Babylon and were taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar.
Did that mean they didn't fight?
No, it just means God wasn't with them in that battle, because they had turned their backs on Him.
But many times throughout history the Lord went with them, before them and behind them in battle.

Truth is worth fighting for. Freedom is worth fighting for. Your Children are worth fighting for.
If we put God first, then we will win this battle. With or without guns.

I don't think it matters to God if you use a gun or a sword.
The question is, are you the oppressor or the oppressed?
The world is under assault by billionaire globalists who enjoy playing war games at civilian's expense.
They have no skin in the game, just money and resources.. ours.
They are distorting our children's minds in the classroom, teaching them to hate... everything.

You want to save the world, we have to save the children.
And it may take guns to do it, because the bad guys are supplying the kids with guns.
We have to take back our children first.
And then guns won't be an issue, unless the government itself declares war on it's citizens.
And we're real close to that folks.
If they don't like you, they lock you up, shut down your bank account, silence you.
This inflation crisis isn't by accident. They are going to starve us so that we will attack each other for food and resources.
They have done it with race, gender, religion... next will be food and survival.
And they don't care who wins or loses.

We are entering into their manmade colloseum. Christians against lions.
And those lions have been bred to attack.
Those lions are our children.

No one wants to kill another person. If your a descent honest law abiding person. No one.
But you have to consider, that once they have disarmed us all, (except the criminals, and the controlled)
Not only will we be taken out, but then they will turn on each other as well.

If we don't stand now, there will be no tomorrow for them.
And that's why we have the RIGHT to bear arms and to defend ourselves from places like "Rome" .
So our children have a chance at a future with liberty and justice for all.

We're not going back under Rome's rule.
We're Americans and we've the God given Right to be free.

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Brakelite]

So, Rome was a tyrannical government in the book of Acts.
I don't suppose they would have "allowed" the Jews to own assault weapons.
Israel was a fierce army. But when Rome overcame them, they bacame subjected and persecuted and tortured and killed by them.
I don't suppose the swords that Peter baught were military grade. Perhaps from the rebels which roamed the wilderness of which even Paul himself was accused of being a party too.
How did Israel allow itself to be overcome by Rome in the first place?
Ah.. they lost wars. They lost to Babylon and were taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar.
Did that mean they didn't fight?
No, it just means God wasn't with them in that battle, because they had turned their backs on Him.
But many times throughout history the Lord went with them, before them and behind them in battle.

Truth is worth fighting for. Freedom is worth fighting for. Your Children are worth fighting for.
If we put God first, then we will win this battle. With or without guns.

I don't think it matters to God if you use a gun or a sword.
The question is, are you the oppressor or the oppressed?
The world is under assault by billionaire globalists who enjoy playing war games at civilian's expense.
They have no skin in the game, just money and resources.. ours.
They are distorting our children's minds in the classroom, teaching them to hate... everything.

You want to save the world, we have to save the children.
And it may take guns to do it, because the bad guys are supplying the kids with guns.
We have to take back our children first.
And then guns won't be an issue, unless the government itself declares war on it's citizens.
And we're real close to that folks.
If they don't like you, they lock you up, shut down your bank account, silence you.
This inflation crisis isn't by accident. They are going to starve us so that we will attack each other for food and resources.
They have done it with race, gender, religion... next will be food and survival.
And they don't care who wins or loses.

We are entering into their manmade colloseum. Christians against lions.
And those lions have been bred to attack.
Those lions are our children.

No one wants to kill another person. If your a descent honest law abiding person. No one.
But you have to consider, that once they have disarmed us all, (except the criminals, and the controlled)
Not only will we be taken out, but then they will turn on each other as well.

If we don't stand now, there will be no tomorrow for them.
And that's why we have the RIGHT to bear arms and to defend ourselves from places like "Rome" .
So our children have a chance at a future with liberty and justice for all.

We're not going back under Rome's rule.
We're Americans and we've the God given Right to be free.

Hugs

KJV Ephesians 6:10-13
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

There were times in history when Christian men and women were forced to use weapons and form militias in order to defend their culture and way of life. The Bohemian wars at the time of Huss, and in the defense of the Waldensians against crusades against them. There are no doubt more that could be cited in the long turbulent history of Europe in the face of Catholic persecutions against those who conscientiously lived contrary to papal authority.
But times are subtly different today. The enemy is the same. But her tactics have changed, and our response to them must adapt. While during the dark ages it was possible in certain instances, and even of necessity, to form brigades to defend entire villagers from opposing armies, that really is no longer tenable, regardless how many citizens own weapons. How do you defend yourself against drone warfare? How do you hide from satellite technology?
While the time is fast approaching for Christians when all earthly support will be stripped away, that will not be a time to take up arms against the government and form a theocracy as is envisioned by many today in the states. Undoing the constitution and repudiating the separation of church and state is totally counterproductive to establishing righteousness and truth. All that would be doing is creating a carbon copy of the medieval church with the same inevitable persecutions and conflict. Sadly, prophecy declares this is exactly what will take place in the US, and they will export that philosophy globally. You're fear of the left, and the great reset and the globalists is misplaced. The right's solution to the current state of affairs is the greater threat.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

KJV Ephesians 6:10-13
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

There were times in history when Christian men and women were forced to use weapons and form militias in order to defend their culture and way of life. The Bohemian wars at the time of Huss, and in the defense of the Waldensians against crusades against them. There are no doubt more that could be cited in the long turbulent history of Europe in the face of Catholic persecutions against those who conscientiously lived contrary to papal authority.
But times are subtly different today. The enemy is the same. But her tactics have changed, and our response to them must adapt. While during the dark ages it was possible in certain instances, and even of necessity, to form brigades to defend entire villagers from opposing armies, that really is no longer tenable, regardless how many citizens own weapons. How do you defend yourself against drone warfare? How do you hide from satellite technology?
While the time is fast approaching for Christians when all earthly support will be stripped away, that will not be a time to take up arms against the government and form a theocracy as is envisioned by many today in the states. Undoing the constitution and repudiating the separation of church and state is totally counterproductive to establishing righteousness and truth. All that would be doing is creating a carbon copy of the medieval church with the same inevitable persecutions and conflict. Sadly, prophecy declares this is exactly what will take place in the US, and they will export that philosophy globally. You're fear of the left, and the great reset and the globalists is misplaced. The right's solution to the current state of affairs is the greater threat.

what a bunch of hooey.

 

[Ziggy]

 

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[Dropship]

..I agree with the idea that God established the United States for a purpose...

 

[CadyandZoe]

I have been in my US homeland for all my life, including during the COVID-19 pandemic. Nobody was forced by the government to receive the vaccine. There were restrictions imposed (properly) for those who refused to be vaccinated, but that is not being forced to comply.

I'm always amazed at the celestial scope of the human ability to rationalize. Your statement is a prime example.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Again, read the book of Acts more closely. You will read about how Christians were persecuted and beaten and imprisoned. This is kind of hard to do if they had swords, and they fought back when threatened. In other words, after Peter’s sword blunder and Jesus 5 point rebuke of using the sword in violence, we see nothing about the apostles carrying swords let alone them using them in the New Testament. Certain narratives in Acts would not even make sense if they carried swords. For example: Acts of the Apostles 5:40. They were beaten and let go. But if they had swords, and were skillful in using them, they would not have been beaten. In Acts of the Apostles 7, we don’t read about how Stephen tried to hit away the stones with his sword when they were stoning him.

The absence of evidence is not evidence.

 

[Jim B]

I'm always amazed at the celestial scope of the human ability to rationalize. Your statement is a prime example.

Why not respond specifically to what I wrote instead of changing the subject? How was anyone forced by the government to receive the vaccine?

 

[Jim B]

The absence of evidence is not evidence.

Another meaningless platitude. Are you unable to stay with the subject being discussed?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Another meaningless platitude. Are you unable to stay with the subject being discussed?

If you think what I said is meaningless, then I now understand you better.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Why not respond specifically to what I wrote instead of changing the subject? How was anyone forced by the government to receive the vaccine?

I didn't react to your post in a direct way because anything I could say to you would be like trying to explain the color yellow to a blind person. How old are you?

 

[Jim B]

I didn't react to your post in a direct way because anything I could say to you would be like trying to explain the color yellow to a blind person. How old are you?

Very clever -- not. In other words, instead of explaining what you meant in your post, you resort to ad hominem tactics.

My age is none of your business.

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

Since the AR-15 is a military weapon, our commander in chief has the authority to remove such weapons from public use.

An AR-15-style rifle is any lightweight semi-automatic rifle based on the Colt AR-15 design. ,.,.,. Airplane Corporation division ArmaLite sold the patent and trademarks to Colt's Manufacturing Company in 1959. After most of Colt's patents for the Colt AR-15 expired in 1977, ,..,,Colt retained the trademark of the AR-15 and is the sole manufacturer able to label their firearms as AR-15
AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia

Aircraft Co. Colt marketed the redesigned rifle to various military services around the world and was eventually adopted by the U.S. military in January 1962 and subsequently designated as M16 rifle in December 1963, which went into production and service in 1964
ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia

The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the 7.62-mm (.308-calibre) battlefield rifles of the day, but ArmaLite had limited success in marketing it to the U.S. military. The AR-15 design was licensed to Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company (later Colt’s Manufacturing LLC) in 1959, and upon its adoption by the U.S. Air Force in 1962, the AR-15 was designated the M16 by the Department of Defense.
M16 rifle | Definition, History, Parts, Diagram, Weight, & Facts

The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use and anyone who refuses to release this killing machine shout be fined $1 million dollars and\or one year in jail.

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[Grailhunter]

Since the AR-15 is a military weapon, our commander in chief has the authority to remove such weapons from public use.

An AR-15-style rifle is any lightweight semi-automatic rifle based on the Colt AR-15 design. ,.,.,. Airplane Corporation division ArmaLite sold the patent and trademarks to Colt's Manufacturing Company in 1959. After most of Colt's patents for the Colt AR-15 expired in 1977, ,..,,Colt retained the trademark of the AR-15 and is the sole manufacturer able to label their firearms as AR-15
AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia

Aircraft Co. Colt marketed the redesigned rifle to various military services around the world and was eventually adopted by the U.S. military in January 1962 and subsequently designated as M16 rifle in December 1963, which went into production and service in 1964
ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia

The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the 7.62-mm (.308-calibre) battlefield rifles of the day, but ArmaLite had limited success in marketing it to the U.S. military. The AR-15 design was licensed to Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company (later Colt’s Manufacturing LLC) in 1959, and upon its adoption by the U.S. Air Force in 1962, the AR-15 was designated the M16 by the Department of Defense.
M16 rifle | Definition, History, Parts, Diagram, Weight, & Facts

The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use and anyone who refuses to release this killing machine shout be fined $1 million dollars and\or one year in jail.

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Disagree