I never said that Behold. You are missing the meaning of the term in context with how Paul used it. It is AFTER we win someone to Christ is the concern.....think about it for some time and reread some of my posts...
This is the last time I will come to my defense in conversion with you on this subject that should be clear to you by now.
Let me show you the teaching..
This is in Philippians, and you can find it.
Just use a real bible, and not a NIV, as if you try to understand Christianity using an NIV you'll end up confused.
Paul said...
1.) """that I may know him, and the power of HIS resurrection""""
so, as Paul has left all self righteousness, and now is become..."not I who live, but Christ lives in me".
= "i die daily"
= "Christ always gives me the Victory"
and Reader..... here is the interesting part, as Paul had finished his "course"..
Paul said...
= """ Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.""
Now, notice the "not as tho i had already attained".
See that part?
That is Paul referring to this.....
""""pre-destined to be conformed INTO the Image of Christ".... and that happens AFTER you die, and that is why Paul said he had not attained it, but was pressing TOWARD that = "high calling"""".
So, as the born again.... we can't have that on Earth, because that is what God performs in eternity, after we are Raptured or die.
But, what we can have and Paul instructs us to have is down here.... is..
1.) """Work out your Salvation"""
to become..
2.) "as many as Be perfect" and that is not your discipleship...... that is the full attainment of revelation knowledge regarding what it means to have become a : "new Creation in Christ"..
And once the BELIEVER has done so....
You end up here..
3.) """"The fullness of the Stature of Christ".""