The last hour

[Behold]

How did God do this in the body of Christ

God wrapped Himself in Human flesh, and Died on the Cross as Jesus, who bore the sin of the world.
Jesus kept the law, and died sinless. So, that is the fulfillment of the Law and a sinless sacrifice.
In this way Jesus met all the requirments of God's Justice, and was then sacrificed to God for the sin of us all.

John 3:16.

 

[Hiddenthings]

God wrapped Himself in Human flesh, and Died on the Cross as Jesus, who bore the sin of the world.
Jesus kept the law, and died sinless. So, that is the fulfillment of the Law and a sinless sacrifice.
In this way Jesus met all the requirments of God's Justice, and was then sacrificed to God for the sin of us all.

John 3:16.

No, that is not the answer...but when you find it put up the post...if you look hard you can find it.

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Behold

Romans 6:10 "For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God.

 

[Behold]

No, that is not the answer...but when you find it put up the post...if you look hard you can find it.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

You can't explain the Eternal Atonment as the New Covenant.
You can't explain why The Sacrifice of Jesus that saves a person, always keeps them saved.
You have no idea what this means.....>"as many as be perfect".......but you can Google it...right?
You have no idea why a Christian should not be "confessing sin".
You have no idea why Hebrews 6:1, is explaing a failed Discipleship.
You have no idea why Hebrews 10:26 is not talking to Christians.
You can't explain why God does not charge sin to a Christian, ever again.

And i can keep on adding to this list, but, thats enough.

You are just on the forum to play games., same as when you first came here. @Hiddenthings

 

[Behold]

@Behold

Romans 6:10 "For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God.

""The Life He lives " is not dying to sin.

Didnt you know?
And you still dont,.

 

[Hiddenthings]

""The Life He lives " is not dying to sin.

Didnt you know?
And you still dont,.

Okay so Jesus died to sin once himself and now lives to God.

Again - how did Jesus personally die to sin, if he knew no sin.

Have you thought to read Romans 6?

 

[Hiddenthings]

Let me help you @Behold

In Romans 6 Paul states the same verse but in another way to help you.

Romans 6:23 (ESV):"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Did Jesus die?
The eternal Life he received who did he receive it from?

It's all here Behold don't draw on any error - just put the pieces together

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Behold

How did Jesus die to sin and why was it required of him?

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Behold and after you have thought on this did Jesus receive the free gift or not?

This will help you Jesus became Immortal

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I'm asking you show me how Jesus personally died to sin though he knew no sin.

Romans 6:10 "For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God."

Be careful how you answer! @ @Behold

Jesus didn't die to sin in the way that His followers do. That verse is obviously talking about His physical death there and it is talking about Him, in His physical death, taking our sins upon Himself "once for all". Read the verses which immediately follow and you can see it's not talking about people physically dying in order for us to be dead to sin.

Romans 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.

Paul, writing to living believers here, tells them to count themselves "dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus"? Can you see that he's talking in present tense there? It's not talking about becoming dead to sin by way of dying, but counting ourselves dead to sin because of what Jesus has done for us by sacrificing Himself for our sins. Paul said to "not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.", so the expectation is being dead to sin while we are alive because of the desire to obey and serve Christ rather than sin.

Why are you asking about this? What is your understanding of Romans 6:10?

 

[Hiddenthings]

Jesus didn't die to sin in the way that His followers do. That verse is obviously talking about His physical death there and it is talking about Him, in His physical death, taking our sins upon Himself "once for all".

So, you also believe Jesus didn't fully live to God then? If you believe he didn't die to sin once.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So, you also believe Jesus didn't fully live to God then? If you believe he didn't die to sin once.

I never said that. Don't be foolish by trying to put words in my mouth. For a follower of Christ to die to sin means to give one's life to Christ and intend to follow righteousness instead of their former sinful lifestyle. Christ didn't sin, so He didn't die to sin in the way that we do.

So, address what I said instead of your strawman. You are trying to divert attention away from the fact that you falsely believe that Romans 6:2 and 6:7 have something to do with physical death when they clearly do not. You also don't understand that Romans 6:23 is referring to the eternal second death (Rev 20:14-15), and not physical death, because it is contrasted with eternal life. Ask God for wisdom so that you stop believing in false doctrine (James 1:5-7).

 

[Hiddenthings]

I never said that. Don't be foolish by trying to put words in my mouth. For a follower of Christ to die to sin means to give one's life to Christ and intend to follow righteousness instead of their former sinful lifestyle. Christ didn't sin, so He didn't die to sin in the way that we do.

Evidence

 

[Berean]

So an anti-JW rant is all you have to offer….hatred makes one blind….it’s not a nice trait. Look what happened to the disciples of Jesus….supposedly worshippers of the same God and yet Jesus called the leaders of Judaism offspring of the devil…….so, are you the one pointing fingers, not having three pointed back at yourself?
Self righteousness is no righteousness at all.

Is it any different than your anti-Christendom rant?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Evidence

Read Romans 6. Paul talks about believers dying to sin in the present tense. When we become saved, we die to sin in the sense that we no longer sin unrepentantly because we want to obey Christ and pursue righteousness instead. This is a very simple concept and it says a lot that you can't even understand it.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Read Romans 6. Paul talks about believers dying to sin in the present tense. When we become saved, we die to sin in the sense that we no longer sin unrepentantly because we want to obey Christ and pursue righteousness instead. This is a very simple concept and it says a lot that you can't even understand it.

For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. Romans 6:10
Through Christ, we have died to sin and now live to serve and glorify God Romans 6:11

What can you see?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. Romans 6:10
Through Christ, we have died to sin and now live to serve and glorify God Romans 6:11

What can you see?

I can see that in the case of believers, Paul says we have died to sin in the present tense spiritually and, because of that, we are free to serve and glorify God in this life. Instead of willingly rebelling against God like we used to do, we now desire to serve and glorify Him. We are considered to be dead to sin in that sense because we're no longer wanting to serve sin (our own sinful desires), but God instead.

 

[Hiddenthings]

I can see that in the case of believers,

Have another look but this time I'll highlight to assit

For the death he (Jesus) died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. Romans 6:10
Through Christ, we have died to sin and now live to serve and glorify God Romans 6:11

And now I'll add 1 Peter 2:24

“He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.”

Your focus is on the word "once" and also the writers focus on what is promise to Christ and those in Christ.

The death is complete cessation of life, and the reward is eternal ever living life.

To reduce one is to reduce the other.

Peter understood something about the Lord's body and what happened in it that you are missing.

 

[rebuilder 454]

If the devil is a powerful deceiver, how do we know that these encounters are not just deceptions by a supernatural creature intent on making people believe something that isn’t true. He will try anything that makes people doubt the existence of the Creator.

Extra terrestrial life does exist, and the Bible speaks about them openly. The mention of “angels” makes people imagine “fairies” with wings, rather than supernatural beings who are very powerful and who have the ability to materialize and dematerialize as the accounts in the Bible convey. These beings are created by God as the Scriptures also tell us. They are not beings confined to a planet because they exist in a parallel realm that we cannot see. Does anyone really know what heaven is like? These beings dwell in the presence of the Creator, which is something that material beings cannot do.

If you can find the story and post a link, I’ll have a look at it.

You sound like watchtower.
Is Jesus the creator?

 

[Hiddenthings]

You sound like watchtower.
Is Jesus the creator?

How can he be?

John 5:26 "For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself."

To create this type of paradox is why you hold to an unexplainable mystery and an unknowable God.