The Mark of the Beast is Paper Money and Fiat Currency

[Earburner]

I Corinthians 11:10 "For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels."

It is for this reason that the woman ought to have the power, which is the authority of that God gives to each of us, when we are in Christ. This again is written to the end generation, and our power and authority come from the Word of God. That knowledge and wisdom that is in the Word of God is where our power comes from, and we must have that wisdom in our mind or we will not stand in the day of the deception. This goes way back to Genesis 6, and it pertains to what the angels did when they came to earth. It was for this reason that the flood of Noah came to be, for Satan could not destroy the Seed, so he tried to destroy the coming of Christ through Eve's daughters.

Again they are coming again ,and if you don't know this before hand ,you will be deceived

II Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

Paul is saying that we should not let these false preachers be a marvel to us, "for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light". How can Satan be "transformed into an angel of light", when the Word of God says many times over and over that if you are of Satan, you are a child of the darkness? Something is terrible wrong here. Many people say that we are not to worry because Satan himself is going to be transformed into an angel of light, and they show their complete ignorance of God's Word. Lets read for ourselves what the Strong's Greek dictionary has to say about this word "transformed". The number in the Strong's Greek dictionary is # 3345.

"Metaschematizo, met-ask-ay-met-id-zo; from the Greek #3326, and a derivative of #4976; to transfigure or disguise; fig. to apply (by accommodation): -transfer, or transform (self)." So lets put this in the way that Paul actually said it in the manuscripts of his letter to the Corinthians. "Satan himself is coming disguised into an angel of light." That is how he will appear to those that are going to see him at his coming at the sixth trumpet. They will see him as they expect to see Jesus coming at the seventh trumpet, but they will be deceived by him, because he will appear to be what they expect to see Jesus to be. To "disguise" anything is to change and hide what it truly is, and make it appear to be that it is not.

Satan is coming disguised as an "angel of light", and the true "Angel of Light" is Jesus Christ. He is coming disguised as the Savior, and that is what this warning of Paul's is all about. Paul doesn't want you seduced by Satan spiritually, like many of the virgins of Christ will be. This is from the very parable that Christ put forth. Are you starting to understand a little more of our Heavenly Father's Word?

II Corinthians 11:15 "Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Paul is telling us that these ministers of deceit have disguised themselves also as the ministers of righteousness, when in fact they are setting you up to be taken by Satan, and not Jesus Christ. They present themselves as the apostles of Christ, only they never get around to teaching the entire Word of God. But they teach in the context that would prepare you for the first christ that comes, who is Satan. Paul is saying don't marvel at these false preachers that are deceiving you, because Satan himself will be cast out of heaven by Michael, and then he will be coming disguised as Jesus.

As is pointed out in Mark 13:5, 6, this Antichrist, which in the Greek reads "instead of Christ" is coming. And when they tell you that he is here or there don't you believe them.

In case you didn't know, all the angels, whether holy or fallen, cannot procreate. They lack the necessary ability for that function.
They are neither male or female!
They are not God, nor are they us.
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They are a different creation for God's purposes only, and are required by God to be obedient 24/7.
They do not have the Eternal Life of God, but they do have eternal existence, as long as they are in 100% worship of God 24/7.
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The minute they are contrary to God's will, they are removed from His Presence, as is the case for Satan and 1/3 of the angelic realm.

 

[101G]

In case you didn't know, all the angels, whether holy or fallen, cannot procreate. They lack the necessary ability for that function.
They are neither male or female!
They are not God, nor are they us.
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They are a different creation for God's purposes only, and are required by God to be obedient 24/7.
They do not have the Eternal Life of God, but they do have eternal existence, as long as they are in 100% worship of God 24/7.
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The minute they are contrary to God's will, they are removed from His Presence, as is the case for Satan and 1/3 of the angelic realm.

100% correct. this is good bible teaching. angels do not procreate, which eliminates the sons of God lie by men in Genesis chapter 6. the bible eliminaes false doctrine over and over, if one just read the thing, (the bible), instead of just hearing what someone say about the bible. then the truth will be revealled.

but this is what forums are about, discussing the word of God. and in doing so, one will find the truth, for a lie is always running, because it know it don't have long to live...... scripture interpret scripture, no need for our own interpretation. (Mark 12:25).

PICJAG

 

[Earburner]

100% correct. this is good bible teaching. angels do not procreate, which eliminates the sons of God lie by men in Genesis chapter 6. the bible eliminaes false doctrine over and over, if one just read the thing, (the bible), instead of just hearing what someone say about the bible. then the truth will be revealled.

but this is what forums are about, discussing the word of God. and in doing so, one will find the truth, for a lie is always running, because it know it don't have long to live...... scripture interpret scripture, no need for our own interpretation. (Mark 12:25).

PICJAG

What's even more worse, how MANY other doctrines, down the line, are tainted by the corruption of that false understanding?
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I know of one teaching ministry, that runs with that same corrupted view point, "The Shepherd's Chapel" program.
How many more pick up that error and run with it, only God knows!

 

[n2thelight]

In case you didn't know, all the angels, whether holy or fallen, cannot procreate. They lack the necessary ability for that function.
They are neither male or female!
They are not God, nor are they us.
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They are a different creation for God's purposes only, and are required by God to be obedient 24/7.
They do not have the Eternal Life of God, but they do have eternal existence, as long as they are in 100% worship of God 24/7.
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The minute they are contrary to God's will, they are removed from His Presence, as is the case for Satan and 1/3 of the angelic realm.

So why because of the angels ,and who do tell are the sons of God?

 

[n2thelight]

Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,"

Genesis 6:2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

The "sons of God" are angelic beings, or angels, and their offspring are called "the Nephilim". These angelic beings, or angels saw the daughters of men were beautiful. These are the fallen angels of Jude 6, who followed Satan in his fall in the "world that was", which is the first earth age. Jude 6 reads; "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

We see that it is these fallen angels that are already reserved undo judgment, and continuing to follow Satan's, in their coming to earth, and intermixing or marring Adamic daughters. This may be strange to you, However, it is taught by Paul in the New Testament. Paul was warning Woman in I Corinthians 11:10; "For this cause ought the woman have power [a sign of authority] on her head, because of the angels."

The protection, or power of authority Paul warned against was from the angels. Though many translate this covering to be "hair", however, it should be veil. That veil is the "Holy Spirit". Because in the latter days it is going to be just as it was in the days of Noah, and friend we are in the latter days. If both Jesus and Paul warned the Christians to be alert of this fact, we had better be alert of it.

Job 2:1 "And again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord."

These are the same sons of God!!!I give scripture you give heresay ..

 

[justbyfaith]

It's time to stop responding to this thread so that it will trickle down to the bottom, far away from anyone's sight.

Because the premise of the OP is faulty; and may even cause someone to go insane if they believe in it.

It is better to just let the subject go.

 

[n2thelight]

but this is what forums are about, discussing the word of God. and in doing so, one will find the truth, for a lie is always running, because it know it don't have long to live...... scripture interpret scripture, no need for our own interpretation. (Mark 12:25).

When did these angels rise from the dead?

Mark 12:25 "For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels are in heaven."

The reason that they will neither marry nor are given in marriage is because marriage in the flesh as we know it today is for the sake of having children, and when you die your soul steps out of their physical body and into their soul [spiritual] body. That soul body is as the angels have, and there are no children born in the angelic dimension for all souls are masculine. An angel is a soul living in a spiritual body, shedding the flesh and stepping into the new dimensional age. That deceased soul would have the same type of bodies that all will have in the Millennium age, after the return of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The angels in Gen 6 left Heaven

 

[n2thelight]

It's time to stop responding to this thread so that it will trickle down to the bottom, far away from anyone's sight.

Because the premise of the OP is faulty; and may even cause someone to go insane if they believe in it.

It is better to just let the subject go.

No I won't let it go,because if just one seed will grow I'm happy.

 

[justbyfaith]

No I won't let it go,because if just one seed will grow I'm happy.

The primary seed that is being planted will turn out to be a weed; and will choke out anything good you might be trying to plant.

I suggest you plant your seeds away from other people's weeds.

 

[Earburner]

So why because of the angels ,and who do tell are the sons of God?

If you study the KJV only, without all the peripheral conjecture and speculations of analytical, logical thought, from our "natural" minds, we can discern the simplicity of it all.
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So then, let's stay with the main thrust of the topic, and leave out those words that distract from it, and then deal with them separately.
Gen. 6[1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them...
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.(the sons of God had harems)

[4] There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also (in addition to) after that,
> After what?
Ans.

when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

[Earburner]

Error above- Reposting:

Reposted:
If you study the KJV only, without all the peripheral conjecture and speculations of analytical, logical thought, from our "natural" minds, we can discern the simplicity of it all.
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So then, let's stay with the main thrust of the topic, and leave out those words that distract from it, and then deal with them separately.
Gen. 6[1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them...
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.(the sons of God had harems)

[4] There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also (in addition to) after that,
> After what?
Ans. There were giants in the earth in those days.
Giants being dinosaurs, not that of men only.
"when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
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So the factor to resolve here is, who were "the sons of God"? When we can do that, without all the hype of imaginations from our own minds, we might find that it is easily understood to be nothing more than
people who were worshipping God, as opposed to those who didn't, were the sons of God.

 

[Earburner]

When you consider that by time of Noah, who was one of only eight (8) people who were spared from the flood, it is apparent that only he and his family were worshipping God, as opposed to everyone else.

 

[Earburner]

Noah, in that time/era, was the LAST of the "sons of God.

 

[Earburner]

Let's be real here, according to the whole Bible,
angels whether holy or fallen, CANNOT have sex!!

 

[Earburner]

When did these angels rise from the dead?

Mark 12:25 "For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels are in heaven."

The reason that they will neither marry nor are given in marriage is because marriage in the flesh as we know it today is for the sake of having children, and when you die your soul steps out of their physical body and into their soul [spiritual] body. That soul body is as the angels have, and there are no children born in the angelic dimension for all souls are masculine. An angel is a soul living in a spiritual body, shedding the flesh and stepping into the new dimensional age. That deceased soul would have the same type of bodies that all will have in the Millennium age, after the return of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The angels in Gen 6 left Heaven

You ARE NOT paying attention to the verse at all, but are choosing to ignore it by your own understanding!
Mark 12:25 "For when they shall rise from the dead [born again Saints only],
they neither marry, nor are given in marriage;
but are as the angels are in heaven.".
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IOWS, the resurrected Saints, in their immortal bodies, will be as the angels are in heaven, who neither marry, nor are given in marriage;
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Which is saying that the resurrected saints no longer will have the ability to engage in sex.
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It's very simple, if you would only listen to the words!

 

[Earburner]

That is why the belief in a "mortal" millennium on the earth is a vain and "fruitless" concept.
Mortals living with immortals? How much stupid thinking is that?
And the reason for that is what?
So the immortal Saints can gloat over unsaved?
Not going to happen!

To save more people, by attending Jewish worship services with Jewish Feast days? Really??
Not going to happen!
WRONG, and how ignorant!

The Age of God's Grace will have ENDED, the minute Jesus returns and resurrects ALL His Saints.
In that same moment, BOTH the unsaved left alive and the unsaved dead, in their graves, will be burned up, never to be seen or heard from again

 

[justbyfaith]

It is what I consider to be a peripheral issue; but personally I believe that there may be some reality to certain myths and legends such as the legend of Hercules, because of the fact that a certain interpretation of Genesis 6 is valid.

Angels do not marry or are given in marriage because they are forbidden to do so.

They co-mingled with human women and this produced giants as physical offspring.

Angels are forbidden to procreate with humanity because such offspring is prone to sin and cannot be redeemed through the same plan of redemption as the rest of humanity.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, to all

and when you die your soul steps out of their physical body and into their soul [spiritual] body

please give book chapter and verse. we hope you are not using 2 Corinthians 5:8.

PICJAG.

 

[Earburner]

1. It is what I consider to be a peripheral issue;
2. but personally I believe that there may be some reality to certain myths and legends such as the legend of Hercules,
3. because of the fact that a certain interpretation of Genesis 6 is valid.

4. Angels do not marry or are given in marriage because they are forbidden to do so.

5. They co-mingled with human women and this produced giants as physical offspring.

6. Angels are forbidden to procreate with humanity
7. because such offspring is prone to sin and cannot be redeemed through the same plan of redemption as the rest of humanity.

JTF, you also are not hearing the Lord's plain words about the resurrected Saints!
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Mark12:25....they neither marry, nor are given in marriage;
but are as the angels are in heaven."
You have no idea how much of this vain and foolish thinking is going to be played up big, as the "strong delusion to believe a LIE".
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1. What's peripheral is the FICTION that is being fabricated!
2. To the concept of that, I might agree, but only along the lines of Samson, in the strength that God gave him, for His Purposes. Judges 16:1-30 was written in approx. 1452 BC
3. The only part that is valid is, "the sons of God" were obedient worshippers of God, whereas the rest were not. From Adam to Noah, we do see that, of which Noah was the last, and the only one remaining of them in that era.
Don't be fooled to think that "the sons of God" were anything else!!
4. What?? Wrong! Angels don't marry for two reasons:
A. They are neither Male or Female!!
B. They DO NOT have sex organs!!!
Honestly, do you really need more details??
5. Please explain that reality, by way of the truth in my answer in #4. You CAN'T!!
6. Again, see my answer #4.
7. See John 3:16.
So in your opinion, of such people that you imagine, they are not a creation of God, being "whosoever", but rather are in the class of "whatsoever", and therefore according to your thinking, they can't be saved, because Jesus didn't die for them.
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So then, what type of plan of salvation might you whip up for them, who are "whatsoever"?
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Did you lose something along the way??
The mercy and forgiveness of God, through Christ is not FOR ALL human flesh??

 

[101G]

So the factor to resolve here is, who were "the sons of God"? When we can do that, without all the hype of imaginations from our own minds, we might find that it is easily understood to be nothing more than
people who were worshipping God, as opposed to those who didn't, were the sons of God.

we might need to start a topic on this instead of hijacking this thread. it would be good to discuss who the sons of God are.

PICJAG.