how does the material brain communicate with the immaterial mind - what bridges the gap - how does that which is material know,suffer[pain],feel,hear and see - winc
The Missing Link ?
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Being aware through our senses interacting with our brains is the obvious answer.
However, I am interested in the manner in which the Spirit of God interacts with us. An attitude of humility and humble submission to all that God shows us is rare within an individual. It isn't "natural", it is "spiritual". It only comes by first being made aware of God through His written Word. Then the tricky part, in dying to one's self, so that the Holy Spirit of Christ Himself can move into and within us, where He is "Home" forever. This is our High Calling and one full of Joy and Righteousness and Peace, known as the "Kingdom of God", experienced only by finding our existence in His Holy Spirit, after having died to our own self so that we can see and hear Him with Spiritual senses being able to see now, after the 'natural' senses are filtered out.
Cool question. Hope my observation though short, is the solid truth to pursue for the only answer to any of this :)'
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However, I am interested in the manner in which the Spirit of God interacts with us. An attitude of humility and humble submission to all that God shows us is rare within an individual. It isn't "natural", it is "spiritual". It only comes by first being made aware of God through His written Word. Then the tricky part, in dying to one's self, so that the Holy Spirit of Christ Himself can move into and within us, where He is "Home" forever. This is our High Calling and one full of Joy and Righteousness and Peace, known as the "Kingdom of God", experienced only by finding our existence in His Holy Spirit, after having died to our own self so that we can see and hear Him with Spiritual senses being able to see now, after the 'natural' senses are filtered out.
Cool question. Hope my observation though short, is the solid truth to pursue for the only answer to any of this :)'
Whitestone
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The God part of your brain is located in the 2nd and 3rd sulcus of the left temporal lobe. People who have a lesion or seizures that affect this area of the brain, often believe they are divine or prophets. Ellen White received this type of injurie and the rest is history.
so what exactly was the question - winc
so what exactly was the question - winc
This is also a question I'm curious about.
We are composed of at least two parts: body and spirit (or three parts if you will: body, soul and spirit). The body is the physical part of us, including its various internal electrical and chemical functions, with its emotions and mental functions.
The spirit (our 'life force'?) is the non-physical part of us, which somehow controls or directs our bodies. My guess is our spirits somehow induce electrical impulses somewhere in our brains. This union between body and spirit is so close, they act as 'one'. It's kind of like driving a car, where the driver become so 'one' with the car so that he accelerates, brakes, turns, etc. without having to consciously think 'I need to press the gas pedal more' or 'I need to rotate the steering wheel to the left'.
Suppose a scientist (someone whose expertise is of the physical world) could see everything that goes on in my brain. Suppose he could see all the electrical impulses that caused my mouth to open, forced the air out of my lungs, constricted my vocal chords, and moved my tongue and lips to speak the word 'hello'. Suppose he could trace backwards through the electrical and chemical chain of events to the original event that caused this word to be spoken. Eventually he would come to a point where something (or things) happened (an electrical impulse I assume) that has no explanation by all the physical laws in the universe. The cause of the impulse would be my spirit. This would be just like studying the cause and effect of a car turning left (i.e. through the wheels, kingpin, tie rod, etc.) eventually coming to the point where the explanation of the turn has to leave the car and be explained in terms of the driver.
In a purely physical world without control or influence from our spirits, physical life would be one big complicated chain reaction of which there is no hope to change the outcome. Everything that happens would be fated to happen by what happened before it. What will be will be.
We are composed of at least two parts: body and spirit (or three parts if you will: body, soul and spirit). The body is the physical part of us, including its various internal electrical and chemical functions, with its emotions and mental functions.
The spirit (our 'life force'?) is the non-physical part of us, which somehow controls or directs our bodies. My guess is our spirits somehow induce electrical impulses somewhere in our brains. This union between body and spirit is so close, they act as 'one'. It's kind of like driving a car, where the driver become so 'one' with the car so that he accelerates, brakes, turns, etc. without having to consciously think 'I need to press the gas pedal more' or 'I need to rotate the steering wheel to the left'.
Suppose a scientist (someone whose expertise is of the physical world) could see everything that goes on in my brain. Suppose he could see all the electrical impulses that caused my mouth to open, forced the air out of my lungs, constricted my vocal chords, and moved my tongue and lips to speak the word 'hello'. Suppose he could trace backwards through the electrical and chemical chain of events to the original event that caused this word to be spoken. Eventually he would come to a point where something (or things) happened (an electrical impulse I assume) that has no explanation by all the physical laws in the universe. The cause of the impulse would be my spirit. This would be just like studying the cause and effect of a car turning left (i.e. through the wheels, kingpin, tie rod, etc.) eventually coming to the point where the explanation of the turn has to leave the car and be explained in terms of the driver.
In a purely physical world without control or influence from our spirits, physical life would be one big complicated chain reaction of which there is no hope to change the outcome. Everything that happens would be fated to happen by what happened before it. What will be will be.
if you instead said "I dont know" you would be in the best company possible - it seems science has had to confess that how the material affects the mental and how the mental affects the material are mysteries which it is impossible to fathom and it seems that here psysiological science must frankly stop bewildered and dumbfounded,for it is totally unable to explain satisfactorially this sudden and startling leap from unconsciousness to consciousness.Despite the best efforts of the best thinkers of modernity,physiology has failed to solve the problem satisfactorily - the answer is known,it seems to a select few but not widely known or accepted[Brunton] - winc
I was not trying to explain how it works, but how to possibly find out where the 'body-spirit interface' is. We don't know if it's one or multiple specific places in the brain, anywhere in the brain, or perhaps elsewhere in the body. It seems this would be something for a believing scientist to research.
the dissecting knife can expose the nervous substance of the brain to sight but it can never expose a thought,an idea, a fancy or a memory image - the chasm between both seems quite unbridgeable - is it not foolish to imply that in nodding our visible heads we nod our invisible minds - twinc
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