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Ritajanice
Born-Again
No you did not!..you said it was the cross..
The imperishable seed is what we are Born Again of, that seed is the Holy Spirit
You said “ me” was Born Again remember..
I’m going to search for that post where you said the seed was the cross.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Are you saying the Bible cuts through your heart?
What gives you hope the Bible?
Sorry, these questions are important.
ChristisGod
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
@ChristisGod ..does sola scripture mean that they think the Bible is God?
That they have no knowledge of the Living spirit birth?
That they have no knowledge of the Living spirit birth?
You can go a bit deeper @Eternally Grateful -just a "tad"--this will be misunderstood.
Greek Text and Exegesis:
The phrase "Scripture is the imperishable seed" can be understood with reference to several key passages in the New Testament that emphasize the enduring nature and transformative power of God's Word.
Key Passage: 1 Peter 1:23 (ESV)
ἀναγεγεννημένοι οὐκ ἐκ σπορᾶς φθαρτῆς ἀλλὰ ἀφθάρτου, διὰ λόγου ζῶντος θεοῦ καὶ μένοντος εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα.
Morphology and Syntax Analysis:
λόγου (logou): Genitive singular masculine of λόγος (logos), meaning "word" or "message".
ζῶντος (zōntos): Present active participle of ζάω (zao), meaning "living" or "alive". It describes the nature of the Word as currently living or alive.
ἀφθάρτου (aphthartou): Genitive singular masculine of ἄφθαρτος (aphthartos), meaning "imperishable" or "incorruptible". It denotes something that cannot decay or perish.
Exegesis:
Scripture as Seed: The concept of Scripture being the imperishable seed is metaphorical, drawing from agricultural imagery where seed represents the beginning or source of life (Luke 8:11; Mark 4:14). Here, the seed metaphorically represents the Word of God, which initiates spiritual rebirth and transformation in believers.
Imperishable Nature: The term "imperishable" (ἀφθάρτου) emphasizes the eternal and indestructible quality of God's Word. It contrasts with perishable or corruptible things and underscores the enduring impact and relevance of Scripture throughout time.
Living Word: The phrase "living and abiding" (ζῶντος θεοῦ καὶ μένοντος) highlights the dynamic and enduring nature of God's Word. It is not merely a historical document but a living revelation that continues to speak to believers and effect change in their lives.
Practical Application:
Understanding that Scripture is the imperishable seed encourages believers to engage with God’s Word continually. It is through Scripture that faith is cultivated, spiritual growth occurs, and lives are transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit. As believers meditate on and apply the Word of God, they experience its life-giving power and become equipped to live according to God’s will.
This exegesis underscores the foundational role of Scripture in the Christian faith, portraying it not only as a historical record but as a living, imperishable seed that bears fruit in the lives of those who receive it with faith and obedience.
1. Luke 8:11 (ESV)
"Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."
Exegesis: In the Parable of the Sower, Jesus explicitly identifies the seed as the word of God. This seed is sown into various types of soil (representing different hearts or responses to God's word) and produces fruit accordingly. The implication is that the word of God is not only sown but has the power to bring forth spiritual life and growth.
2. James 1:18 (ESV)
"Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."
Exegesis: James describes believers being "brought forth" or born again through the word of truth, emphasizing the regenerative power of God's word. This mirrors the concept of the imperishable seed bringing forth new life in Christ.
3. Matthew 13:23 (ESV)
"As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it. He indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty."
Exegesis: This verse continues the theme of the Parable of the Sower, illustrating that when the seed (the word of God) falls on good soil (receptive hearts), it produces abundant fruit. It highlights the transformative impact of God's word when received with understanding and faith.
4. Hebrews 4:12 (ESV)
"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."
Exegesis: Hebrews portrays the word of God as living and active, emphasizing its penetrating power and ability to discern the deepest thoughts and intentions of the heart. This characterization underscores the dynamic and transformative nature of Scripture.
5. Psalm 119:105 (ESV)
"Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path."
Exegesis: Psalm 119 extols the virtues of God's word, portraying it as a guiding light in life. This imagery suggests that Scripture provides direction, clarity, and wisdom for navigating life's challenges and making decisions in accordance with God's will.
These passages collectively reinforce the biblical concept of Scripture as the imperishable seed, emphasizing its role in spiritual birth, growth, transformation, guidance, and discernment. They underscore the timeless and enduring nature of God's word, which continues to impact and shape the lives of believers throughout history. As Christians engage with Scripture, they are nourished, strengthened, and equipped for living out their faith in obedience to God.
Shalom
Johann.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power. Spiritual Wisdom (Ephesians 1:15–23) 6Among the mature, however, we speak a message of wisdom—but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God,a which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9Rather, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”b 10But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c 14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?”d But we have the mind of Christ. |
ChristisGod
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For many it’s only intellectual devoid of the spirit of God, it verges on legalism
ChristisGod
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Another man’s work and the expected cut n paste . Spoon fed. Nothing deep but shallow.
Let me know when you can speak from your own heart and mind without the help of commentaries.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Yes!!!..you confirmed imo what the Spirit witnessed to my spirit....I understand fully what you are saying, I best not say anything further.
Great! Now exegete this passage-see if you can, or at least try-no offense
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I don’t understand this exegete business you keep asking me to do Johan.
You should be asking the Spirit to help you understand this scripture in your spirit if you are Born Again.?
Do you understand any of it?
What does it say here @Johann ...what spirit have you received into your heart?
12We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God
How do we receive the Spirit of God @Johann ?
ChristisGod
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
I’m getting this intellect business..that’s what we’re up against i believe.
ChristisGod
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It’s a form of intimidation and bullying, schoolyard tactics of the immature
Are you too lazy to look up the word "exegesis?" I have a right to ask--
Passage: 1 Corinthians 2:12 (ESV)
"Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God."
Morphology and Syntax Analysis:
οὐ (ou): Negative particle, meaning "not".
τὸ (to): Definite article, "the".
πνεῦμα (pneuma): Nominative singular neuter of πνεῦμα (pneuma), meaning "spirit" or "Spirit".
οὐ (ou): Negative particle, "not".
ἐλάβομεν (elabomen): Aorist active indicative first person plural of λαμβάνω (lambanō), meaning "we received".
ἀλλὰ (alla): Conjunction meaning "but" or "instead".
τὸ (to): Definite article, "the".
Πνεῦμα (Pneuma): Nominative singular neuter of πνεῦμα (pneuma), "Spirit".
τὸ (to): Relative pronoun, "who".
ἐκ (ek): Preposition meaning "from".
Θεοῦ (Theou): Genitive singular masculine of Θεός (Theos), "God".
Exegesis:
Spirit of the World vs. Spirit from God: The phrase "spirit of the world" refers to the mindset, values, and influences that dominate the world system which is contrary to God's kingdom. Believers in Christ, however, have not received this worldly spirit but instead have received the Holy Spirit who originates from God Himself.
Received: The verb "we received" (ἐλάβομεν) indicates a past action in which believers have actively taken hold of or accepted the Holy Spirit. This reception is a conscious decision or response to God's invitation and work in their lives.
Spirit from God: The Holy Spirit is described as coming "from God" (ἐκ Θεοῦ), emphasizing His divine origin and nature. He is sent by God the Father and God the Son (John 14:26; 15:26) to dwell within believers, empower them for spiritual life and service, and lead them into all truth (John 16:13).
Purpose: The purpose of receiving the Spirit from God is "that we might understand the things freely given us by God" (1 Corinthians 2:12b). This underscores the Holy Spirit's role in illuminating spiritual truths, enabling believers to grasp and appreciate the blessings and wisdom freely bestowed upon them by God through His grace.
How do we receive the Spirit of God?
According to the New Testament, believers receive the Spirit of God through:
Faith in Jesus Christ: When individuals believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord, repenting of their sins and acknowledging Him as the Son of God, they are baptized (immersed) in the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38; Galatians 3:2-5).
Regeneration: Through the process of spiritual rebirth, believers are born again by the Spirit of God (John 3:5-8; Titus 3:5).
Gift of God: The Holy Spirit is given as a gift from God to those who believe in Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38; Ephesians 1:13-14).
Prayer and Surrender: Believers are encouraged to pray for the infilling and empowerment of the Holy Spirit (Luke 11:13; Ephesians 5:18) and to surrender their lives to His leading and guidance (Romans 8:14; Galatians 5:16).
In conclusion, receiving the Spirit of God involves a personal and transformative encounter with God through faith in Jesus Christ, resulting in the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit who empowers, guides, and enables believers to live according to God's will and understand His truths.
Do you understand any of this @Ritajanice?
On the contrary-you don't know how to respond with Scripture-you can copy and paste reams and reams of scriptures but when it comes to proper exegesis or hermeneutics you are lost, I know, I have seen this time and time again.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
You shouldn’t need any of this if you are Born Again..do you know you are actually worshipping your commentaries more than you worship the Living God.
No wonder you lack spirit knowledge, your obsessed with commentaries you are addicted to them.
You should be addicted to being led through scripture by the Holy Spirit.
You worship ,a false god that false god is “ COMMENTARIES “ for heavens sake open up your heart to the Lord...he’s waiting..
ChristisGod
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Since I have logos and you don’t here is the meaning of exegesis.
What is exegesis?
Exegesis definition: Exegesis is “the process of careful analytical study of the Bible to produce useful interpretations of those passages.”1 (The word “exegesis” comes from the Greek term ἐξηγέομαι (exegeomai), which means “to explain” or “to narrate” or “to show the way”)The process of exegesis involves asking questions of the text that might unearth new insights. However, The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary is clear that the goal of exegesis is “to know neither less nor more than the information actually contained in the passage. Exegesis … places no premium on speculation or inventiveness” and “novelty in interpretation is not prized.”2
Simply put, exegesis is not about discovering what we think a text means (or want it to mean) but what the biblical author meant. It’s concerned with intentionality—what the author intended his original readers to understand
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