Eternally Grateful
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i told you what I think happensThat’s the question I asked of you?
Thats why i asked you. Will you answer or just evade?
lol.. What a joke…Once again evasion of my question.
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i told you what I think happensThat’s the question I asked of you?
lol.. What a joke…Once again evasion of my question.
Here once again this use proves she does not read what anyone saysKeep doing what?
I am questioning you just like you are bombarding me with your questions and what you believe to be God’s truth
You have answered some of my questions and I’m going to quote the ones you haven’t answered again.
Clarify please?I did, I actually wrote them. I did not say it.
in fact. I said the opposite of what you accuse me of.
How dare you!!!
You have said that the scripture is Alive in Spirit it’s not.No.. I am saying what the Bible says.. If you do not agree. Well thats fine.. But stop saying I bear false witness
Show me where and I will rectify it?Yet you add to gods words all the Time,,
Why are you being a hypocrite?
A Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God’s seed?No. I have clarified and interpreted it differently than you do.
Thats not rebuking, It would do you a great service to learn the difference
You do not even know what I believe,
I understand clearly what it means,, You can;t take that from me or judge me
So do you sin or not?
A Born Again does not sin because they have been Born of Gods seed?Which is it? Are you perfect. Because you are born of God, or do you still sin?
Let’s put your cards on the table.
Nice evasionNice evasion of my questions.
What number post please?i told you what I think happens
Thats why i asked you. Will you answer or just evade?
lol.. What a joke…
You evaded my question..now please show me the post where you answered my questions?..numbers of the posts where you answered my questions...I will then once I find them, quote the questions you never answered.Nice evasion
You false accused me
And I EVADED?
once again, i ask the mods. How long is she going to be allowed to do this day after day??
so your will not go back and look to see your error? You want me to prove you wrong?Clarify please?
Yet you keep falsly accusing me of saying I said we are made into an image of christ in an instant.No, we are made into a child of God in an instant. But as many as recieved him, to THEM gave he the right to become children of God
It is.. You can deny it all you want. It will not make it a fact.You have said that the scripture is Alive in Spirit it’s not.
True..You can’t believe scripture without the Spirit witnessing Gods truth to your heart?
do you still sin. yes or no.Impossible..we are spirit children not intellectual children.
Show me where and I will rectify it?
A Born Again does not sin because they have been Born Of God’s seed?
Yes why would you think I thought otherwise.Can the Living seed indwell a sinner?
do you still sin? Why won‘t you answer? (You actually already have, thats why I am calling the contradiction out)A Born Again does not sin because they have been Born of Gods seed?
Asked an answered 1000 timesWhat has perfect got to do with it?
Can Gods seed indwell a sinner?
LolWhat number post please?
No they don’t..my opinion.They have everything to do with being born again..
No way , we are Born Again then we are+saved from eternal damnation.the two are in harmony.No. Your saved first. THEN you are born again
This is not how God says we are Born Again..we are Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit, only then are we made right before God.It has everything to do with being born of the spirit.
No. I interpret it be being justified, or saved, That is WHEN one is born again, Not before. And not after.
I am not judging you.I never said it did. Stop with you accusations.
You get on some topic and you can;t let it go.. Another issue with you
No I do not.
You bear false witness. Yet again..
It’s obvious you do not know what I believe, yet you judge me,, How dare you Judge me or anyone else. When yu do not even know what we believe
sick of playing your games..You evaded my question..now please show me the post where you answered my questions?..numbers of the posts where you answered my questions...I will then once I find them, quote the questions you never answered.
I’m going to scan this thread and repost the questions you never answered and there are a few.
Then admin will see that it’s not me bearing false witness...
Make sure before you accuse me of bearing false witness...that your facts are straight..that you answered every one of my questions..you did not..
well they do. in my opinionNo they don’t..my opinion.
Yes. Being saved from eternal damnation is a little things called justification. Or deep redeemed by the bloodNo way , we are Born Again then we are+saved from eternal damnation.the two are in harmony.
Yes, WHEN WE TRUST HIM. ITS ALL OVER HIS WORD!!This is not how God says we are Born Again..we are Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit, only then are we made right before God.
lolI am not judging you.
But you’re not. Because I can not agree with you. You share you opinion, and thats great. But I can not agree..Imam picking you up on how we are Born Again using the word of God and will continue to do so.
You seem to be calling everyone here on this Forum as lying when you yourself are not growing into knowledge--We are Born Again by the testifying with our spirit via Gods Living Holy Spirit...he talks/ testifies to our spirit as he’s indwelling our spirit ...that is the part @Johann doesn’t understand and keeps rebuking Gods word.
Ok,thanks, yes we are a spirit child in an instance.so your will not go back and look to see your error? You want me to prove you wrong?
You said
Not true..a Born Again is being made into the image of Jesus from within, same as bearing Jesus fruit...do you think you are made into Jesus in an instance by Gods power within us?
I responded in agreement with you. And said no we are made into a CHILD OF GOD IN AN INSTANT
Where did I say that and I will apologise?Yet you keep falsly accusing me of saying I said we are made into an image of christ in an instant.
Keep it up sis..
What we hear God’s witness His Living Holy Spirit saying...as I’ve said countless times we check what is said with scripture..we communicate with God via His Spirit.It is.. You can deny it all you want. It will not make it a fact.
True..
But satan comes as an angel of light.. so we cannot listen to any voice we hear. We must be like the bereans and verity..
Scrioture verifies itself. Thats why it is so awesome and living
Already explained about sin.do you still sin. yes or no.
I have answered this countless times and explained that it can only be understood by heart/ spirit revelation.Yes why would you think I thought otherwise.
do you still sin? Why won‘t you answer? (You actually already have, thats why I am calling the contradiction out)
Asked an answered 1000 times
Once again reams of scripture other people’s work and no spirit talk from you?You seem to be calling everyone here on this Forum as lying when you yourself are not growing into knowledge--
Inner Conviction:
Greek Text:
Romans 8:16 (NIV): "ὁ Πνεῦμα αὐτὸς συμμαρτυρεῖ τῷ πνεύματι ἡμῶν ὅτι ἐσμὲν τέκνα θεοῦ."
Morphology and Syntax:
ὁ Πνεῦμα (ho Pneuma): The Spirit (Nominative case, subject of the sentence).
αὐτὸς (autos): Himself (Nominative, emphasizes the Spirit as the subject).
συμμαρτυρεῖ (symmartyrei): Testifies together with (3rd person singular, present active indicative).
τῷ πνεύματι ἡμῶν (tō pneumati hēmōn): To our spirit (Dative case, indirect object).
ὅτι ἐσμὲν τέκνα θεοῦ (hoti esmen tekna theou): That we are children of God (Indirect discourse, ὅτι introduces the content of the testimony).
Assurance of Salvation:
Greek Text:
Ephesians 1:13-14 (NIV): "ἐν ᾧ καὶ ὑμεῖς ἀκούσαντες τὸν λόγον τῆς ἀληθείας, τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τῆς σωτηρίας ὑμῶν, ἐν ᾧ καὶ πιστεύσαντες ἐσφραγίσθητε τῷ Πνεύματι τῆς ἐπαγγελίας τῷ ἁγίῳ, ὅ ἐστιν ἀρραβὼν τῆς κληρονομίας ἡμῶν, εἰς ἀπολύτρωσιν τῆς περιποιήσεως, εἰς ἔπαινον τῆς δόξης αὐτοῦ."
Morphology and Syntax:
1) "In whom ye also trusted" (en ho kai humeis) "In whom (Christ) ye also (trusted)," or believed with all their hearts ' as the Eunuch did, Act_8:37; and as the Philippian jailer did, Act_16:31-34; Rom_4:11.
2) "After that ye heard the word of truth" (akousantes ton logon tes aletheias) "Hearing (while hearing) the word' of the truth." This is what Cornelius and his household did, Act_10:43-46; Act_11:21. Believing or trusting in the Lord is evidenced in one by a voluntary turning to worship and service toward Him, Act_9:5-9.
3) "The gospel of your salvation" (to evangelion tes soterias humon) "The gospel of your salvation or deliverance." The salvation of the Ephesians came through Paul's preaching and their acceptance of "repentance toward God," and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ, Act_20:20-21; Act_20:26-31.
4) "In whom also after that ye believed" (en ho kai pisteusantes) "in whom also (when) ye believed," or having fully believed. The Holy Spirit quickens every believer to life eternal and seals the stamp of divine ownership upon him to eternal life, Joh_6:63; Joh_10:27-29; 1Jn_5:13.
5) "Ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise" (esphragisthete to pneumati tes epangelias to hagio) "With the Holy Spirit of promise." This seal is heaven's stamp of eternal ownership of the sealed property, 2Ti_2:19; Eph_4:30. If salvation could ever be lost, it would have to be after the resurrection of the body of the believer; for until the redemption of the body (the purchased (paid for) possession of every believer), one is sealed. See also Rom_8:23.
ἐσφραγίσθητε (esphragisthēte): You were sealed (2nd person plural, aorist passive indicative).
τῷ Πνεύματι τῆς ἐπαγγελίας τῷ ἁγίῳ (tō Pneumati tēs epangelias tō hagiō): With the Spirit of promise, the Holy Spirit (Dative case, instrumental means).
ὅ ἐστιν ἀρραβὼν τῆς κληρονομίας ἡμῶν (ho estin arrabōn tēs klēronomias hēmōn): Who is a guarantee of our inheritance (Relative clause).
εἰς ἀπολύτρωσιν τῆς περιποιήσεως (eis apolytrosin tēs peripoiesews): For the redemption of the purchased possession (Purpose clause).
εἰς ἔπαινον τῆς δόξης αὐτοῦ (eis epainon tēs doxēs autou): To the praise of His glory (Purpose clause).
Transformation:
Greek Text:
Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV): "ὁ δὲ καρπὸς τοῦ Πνεύματός ἐστιν ἀγάπη, χαρὰ, εἰρήνη, μακροθυμία, χρηστότης, ἀγαθωσύνη, πίστις, πραΰτης, ἐγκράτεια· κατὰ τῶν τοιούτων οὐκ ἔστιν νόμος."
Morphology and Syntax:
ὁ δὲ καρπὸς τοῦ Πνεύματός (ho de karpos tou Pneumatos): But the fruit of the Spirit (Nominative case, subject).
ἐστιν (estin): Is (3rd person singular, present active indicative).
List of virtues: ἀγάπη, χαρὰ, εἰρήνη, μακροθυμία, χρηστότης, ἀγαθωσύνη, πίστις, πραΰτης, ἐγκράτεια (agapē, chara, eirēnē, makrothumia, chrēstotēs, agathōsynē, pistis, praūtēs, enkrateia): Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control (Nominative case, direct objects).
Guidance and Revelation:
Greek Text:
John 16:13 (NIV): "ὅταν δὲ ἔλθῃ ἐκεῖνος, τὸ Πνεῦμα τῆς ἀληθείας, ὁδηγήσει ὑμᾶς εἰς τὴν ἀλήθειαν πᾶσαν· οὐ γὰρ λαλήσει ἀφ' ἑαυτοῦ, ἀλλ' ὅσα ἀκούει λαλήσει, καὶ τὰ ἐρχόμενα ἀναγγελεῖ ὑμῖν."
Morphology and Syntax:
ὅταν δὲ ἔλθῃ ἐκεῖνος (hotan de elthē ekeinos): But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes (Subordinate temporal clause).
τὸ Πνεῦμα τῆς ἀληθείας (to Pneuma tēs alētheias): The Spirit of truth (Nominative case, subject).
ὁδηγήσει (hodēgēsei): Will guide (3rd person singular, future active indicative).
ὑμᾶς εἰς τὴν ἀλήθειαν πᾶσαν (humas eis tēn alētheian pasan): You into all the truth (Accusative case, direct object).
ὅσα ἀκούει λαλήσει (hosa akouei lalēsei): Whatever He hears, He will speak (Accusative case, direct object).
τὰ ἐρχόμενα ἀναγγελεῖ ὑμῖν (ta erchomena anangelei humin): He will declare to you what is to come (Accusative case, direct object).
Communion with God:
Greek Text:
Galatians 4:6 (NIV): "ὅτι δέ ἐστε υἱοί, ἐξαπέστειλεν ὁ θεὸς τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ υἱοῦ αὐτοῦ εἰς τὰς καρδίας ἡμῶν, κράζοντα Αββα ὁ πατήρ."
Morphology and Syntax:
ὅτι δέ ἐστε υἱοί (hoti de este huioi): Because you are sons (Subordinate causal clause).
ἐξαπέστειλεν (exapesteilen): Sent forth (3rd person singular, aorist active indicative).
τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ υἱοῦ αὐτοῦ (to Pneuma tou huiou autou): The Spirit of His Son (Nominative case, subject).
εἰς τὰς καρδίας ἡμῶν (eis tas kardias hēmōn): Into our hearts (Accusative case, direct object).
κράζοντα Αββα ὁ πατήρ (krazonta Abba ho patēr): Crying out, "Abba, Father" (Accusative participle and direct address).
These explanations demonstrate how the Greek language, morphology, and syntax enhance our understanding of the nuances and depth of these biblical concepts regarding the Holy Spirit's role in the life of believers.
Inner Conviction:
The Holy Spirit prompts a deep inner conviction within believers that they are children of God.
This conviction is not merely intellectual but a profound assurance that comes from the Spirit's presence within us.
Scripture Reference: Romans 8:16 (NIV) - "The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children."
Assurance of Salvation:
2) "Beareth witness with our spirit," (summarteurei to Pneumati hemon) "witnesses in harmony with our spirit," or tells our spirit, bears testimony by the fruit of peace and joy that he brings to our spirits, our consciousness of will and affection for God and holiness, Gal_5:22-23; Rom_5:5.
3) "That we are the children of God," (hoti esmen Tekna theou) "that we are (now exist as) children of God," not merely candidates for childhood to him, 1Jn_5:10; 1Jn_5:13. One does not have to wait till he dies to become a child of God or to know that he is a child of God, Joh_1:11-12; 1Jn_3:1-2; 1Jn_3:10; Gal_3:26.
The Spirit confirms our adoption as God's children by sealing us with Himself.
This sealing is a guarantee or deposit, indicating our secure position in Christ.
Scripture Reference: Ephesians 1:13-14 (NIV) - "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory."
Transformation:
The presence of the Holy Spirit in our lives produces fruit that reflects our new identity in Christ.
As we grow in these Christlike qualities, it serves as ongoing evidence of the Spirit's work and our relationship with God.
Scripture Reference: Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV) - "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."
Guidance and Revelation:
The Spirit guides believers into truth and reveals the deep things of God.
Through this guidance, believers gain understanding of God's will and His purposes, reinforcing their identity as His children.
Scripture References:
John 16:13 (NIV) - "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."
1 Corinthians 2:10-12 (NIV) - "These are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us."
Communion with God:
The Holy Spirit enables believers to cry out to God as their Father.
This intimate communion and relationship with God further affirm our status as His children.
Scripture Reference: Galatians 4:6 (NIV) - "Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, 'Abba, Father.'"
These aspects demonstrate the multifaceted role of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer, confirming their identity, guiding them in truth, producing transformation, and fostering intimate communion with God as their Father.
How many times were your questions answered? But you rebuke correction?
J.
Not other people's work, plain Scripture staring you in the face, and you don't recognize it-Once again reams of scripture other people’s work and no spirit talk from you?
Scripture that you can only understand in your intellect?Not other people's work, plain Scripture staring you in the face, and you don't recognize it-
Proverbs 12:23 (NIV): "The prudent keep their knowledge to themselves, but a fool’s heart blurts out folly."
Proverbs 14:29 (NIV): "Whoever is patient has great understanding, but one who is quick-tempered displays folly."
Proverbs 15:2 (NIV): "The tongue of the wise adorns knowledge, but the mouth of the fool gushes folly."
Proverbs 27:22 (NIV): "Though you grind a fool in a mortar, grinding them like grain with a pestle, you will not remove their folly from them."
Ecclesiastes 10:3 (NIV): "Even as fools walk along the road, they lack sense and show everyone how stupid they are."
These verses from the Old Testament wisdom literature highlight the idea that a person's foolishness or lack of wisdom is often evident in their words, actions, and demeanor, and it can be observed by others around them.
This is not how God says we are Born Again.2) "After that ye heard the word of truth" (akousantes ton logon tes aletheias) "Hearing (while hearing) the word' of the truth." This is what Cornelius and his household did, Act_10:43-46; Act_11:21. Believing or trusting in the Lord is evidenced in one by a voluntary turning to worship and service toward Him, Act_9:5-9.
You ask me questions and I give you answers but since it doesn't "resonate" with whatever spirit you have you call me a liar-again, read the post, already answered and again, I honestly don't know what your purpose here is-is it to goad the members?Scripture that you can only understand in your intellect?
I asked you questions last night Of the scripture you posted , you didn’t know the answers..I had to answer them for you...
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
How would we know we are a son / daughter of the most high?
Already answered, MULTIPLE times and you don't have eyes to see, nor ears to hear.This is not how God says we are Born Again.
My question is why aren’t you posting Born Again scripture?
This how we are Born Of The Spirit my friend..very easy to understand.You ask me questions and I give you answers but since it doesn't "resonate" with whatever spirit you have you call me a liar-again, read the post, already answered and again, I honestly don't know what your purpose here is-is it to goad the members?
Matthew 13:5-6 (Parable of the Sower):
"Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root."
Ephesians 3:17-19:
"So that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God."
Colossians 2:6-7:
"So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness."
Hebrews 5:12-14:
"In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil."
James 1:5-8:
"If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do."
These passages illustrate that those lacking depth may struggle with spiritual stability, maturity, and understanding of God’s truths. They may be susceptible to falling away when faced with challenges or trials, similar to the seeds that fell on rocky soil in the Parable of the Sower. Therefore, Scripture encourages believers to deepen their roots in Christ, grow in faith and understanding, and seek wisdom and maturity through consistent engagement with God’s Word and reliance on the Holy Spirit.
You need to go back to the A, B, C's
J.