Jane_Doe22
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This part of your post I very much agree with.There are people who claims to hear voice from God, but we are not to believe every spirit but test them and in this case, by the accepted scriptures by those that love Him to keep His words which I believe the Lord led me to confirm is the KJV when I had been using the NIV & NASB regularly. Again, only the Lord can confirm that to you, but the line of discernment regarding the lost books for why they are not in the Bible is because there were some verses that were running against scripture. Since no lie can be of the truth, that is why the lost books were not considered scripture.
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.... 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
The rest there is disagreement. If all you want to do is state your feelings and be done, consider your mission fulfilled. If you want to talk about things (both listen, back and forth) let me know.
So when someone is claiming God is speaking to him, that may very well be, but each one of us is called to prove all things by Him and to abstain from all appearances of evil.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
Now the Catholics will defend the line of succession of supposedly infallible Pope in not teaching errors even though there were 7 Popes that were glaringly living in sin while in the service as the Pope. As much as they may argue that the Holy Spirit will keep them from teaching error, it is hypocritical of the Holy Spirit to not keep them from living in error or in sin and so the doctrine of the infallible Pope collapse on that basis.
Then there is Joseph Smith's doctrine of polygamy. In all that time that he claims he was using tongues with interpretation in the right way, the Holy Spirit never reproved him for it? For as important as the Book of Mormons is with any other books, for why they were necessary because of claims that the original scripture had been changed and whatever other reasons for why the church has gone astray for Mormonism to be the right way, has to become circumspect. Everything has to be proven by Him.
Even the things they had taught in my former church when Jesus says for believers not to make promises nor commitments because we cannot make ourselves good or to do good when we are living by faith in Jesus Christ to help us to do that and to be good. Of course, the only reasons promises got into the church for taking the office of deacons and elders was because they had unknowingly, many members that were of Freemasons. One time they were going to address the Masons in church, but when finding out how many there were that were Freemasons, they swept the issue of contention under the rug. It is no wonder to me why they followed blindly Billy Graham's commitment to follow Christ for the evidence of salvation and became the center for the Promise Keepers' program in the valley for all the churches to join in on.
Their conscience was defiled and they could not see the sins they were in for practicing by so many years in spite of verse 36 of Matthew 5:33-37.
Don't let that happen to you, sister. Do not be a defender of Mormonism or Joseph Smith, since we are all suppose to be defending the faith in Jesus Christ in serving Him by testifying of Him in seeking His glory which is to the glory of God the Father. If we are to be literally the latter day saints of Jesus Christ, then that is what we should do in relying on Him thru the Spirit in us to serve Jesus Christ and nothing else in His name in seeking the glory of. I know there is no such thing as a perfect church, but when they call evil, good, even though they don't do polygamy any more, something has to be way off for someone supposedly being a prophet from God to restore believers to the right way and he goes and teach that. For God to be so insistent on Smith to get Christian to go in the right way, He would not turn a blind eye to Smith going the wrong way in teaching others the same.
I'm not saying he is not saved, but it goes to show how people can be of the least in the kingdom of God when they teach others to break one of His commandments.
Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
I know a lot of Christian churches are allowing for divorces and not just for the cause of adultery either. My former church goes through all the trouble of putting hurdles in the path of those seeking to get married to make sure they are ready for marriage, but when it comes to divorce, hardly any hurdles at all once the couple decides for it. They should have been praying and fasting while separated fro a while for the Lord to bring them back together again, unless of course, one is an unbeliever, then they are free to get a divorce when the unbeliever is not content to live with her or him as the apostle Paul shared his thoughts on that which he believed the Lord did not command but permitted him to speak below.
1 Corinthians 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. 12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. 13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? 17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
Pray about it, sister. Hopefully, I have shared my concerns enough to show how we all are suppose to prove everything by Him with prayer.