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The New Covenant

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Keraz, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Keraz

    Keraz Well-Known Member

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    The New Covenant is not made yet. We just have the future Promise of it.
    None of the four things listed in Hebrews 8:10-12 have fully happened yet:
    1/ I shall set My Laws in their hearts.
    2/ I shall be their God and they will be My people.
    3/ They will not teach each other, for all will know the Lord.
    4/ I shall pardon their sins and remember their wickedness no more.


    The New Covenant will be made between the Lord and His corporate Christian peoples, after the Sixth Seal event has cleared and cleansed all of the holy Land, and all the righteous, faithful Christian peoples will migrate to live there: Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, Romans 9:26

    Ezekiel 34:25 I shall make a Covenant with them for their peace and prosperity....

    Isaiah 61:8..... I will grant them a sure reward and make an everlasting Covenant with them.

    Isaiah 59:20-21 The Lord will come as a Redeemer to Zion and to those descended from Jacob who repent of their rebellion. This is the Covenant I will make with them: My Spirit will abide with them thru all the following generations.

    Jeremiah 32:37-40 I shall gather My people from all the lands where they now live......I will make and everlasting Covenant with them, it will be a joy for Me to do them good.

    Ezekiel 37:26 [After the Spiritual regeneration and the rejoining of the tribes] I shall make an everlasting Covenant with them, for their peace and prosperity and their numbers will greatly increase. I will put My Sanctuary in their midst, where it will remain for all time.

    Isaiah 33:17-24 Those who live righteously and speak the truth, who do not take bribes, rejecting all evil – they will dwell securely with ample food and water. Psalms 85:12
    Your eyes will see a King in his glory and view a Land that stretches into the distance. Numbers 24:15-19, Genesis 15:18
    You will call to mind what you once feared. Where are they now? Those barbarous people whose speech you could not understand. Psalms 58:10-11, Psalms 37:8-15, Jeremiah 12:14-16
    Look upon Zion, Jerusalem, city of sacred festivals. A secure abode, never again to be moved. Amos 9:13-15
    There the Lord will be in His majesty, a peaceful place. A place of broad rivers, but no ships will sail there.
    The Lord is our judge and lawgiver. He is our King who will save us
    . Zechariah 8:7-8
    Your rigging hangs loose, the mast is not secure and your sails are not set. Luke 12:35-36. Then all will take a share in the spoils. Zechariah 9:17

    No one living in Zion will get sick and the sins of the people will be pardoned.

    Micah 7:18 Who is God like You? You take away our guilt and forgive the sins of the faithful remnant of Your people......
     
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    That is incorrect. The New Covenant went into effect the day Christ died.

    For this is my blood of the New Testament [Covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins. (Matthew 26:28)

    The Greek word diatheke is translated as BOTH "testament" and "covenant".
     
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  3. Keraz

    Keraz Well-Known Member

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    Jesus did His part of the NC. We Christians have not done ours yet.

    Jesus cannot make a Covenant with individuals, it will be between Him and the new nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5.

    Please explain your interpretation of the prophesies I presented in the OP.
     
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    Dear Kearz,


    "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you.


    You too! Are welcome to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!


    Peace be with you!
     
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  5. Keraz

    Keraz Well-Known Member

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    Jesus did His part of the New Covenant and we celebrate that.
    But, as the prophesies that you seem to have overlooked, say; the Lord will make the NC AFTER His people gather in the holy land.

    Proved by how some of the Christians will violate the Covenant, when the leader of the world Govt comes to them. Daniel 11:32
     
  6. mjrhealth

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    The new covenant is between Christ and God, we are just the tag alongs, work done, completed finished
     
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  7. Keraz

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    What you say is the usual Church teaching.
    But Paul said we should be like the Bereans and search the scriptures for the truth ourselves. Acts 17:11 Have you done that?

    Actually I have done it for you and the scriptures in the OP prove that the NEW Covenant is not yet made. It awaits the time when all the Lord's faithful people are gathered in the holy Land. Which is another well prophesied truth that has been overlooked in Church teachings.
    We should know the Plan of God for our future, it is all as Written in our Bibles.
     
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    We are supposed to do as Christ said and learn of Him but men prefer books to the living word not His doing and why mankind has messed it all up.
     
  9. Keraz

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    I shall set My Laws in your hearts…. Hebrews 8:10
    This verse from the New Testament, is a quote from the O.T. –
    Jeremiah 31:31-34The days are coming when I shall set My Laws within them, writing them on their hearts…

    New Testament teaching says we Christians are now under the New Covenant, the Old is obsolete: Hebrews 8:10-13. However, it is fairly obvious that this prophecy of how God’s Laws will be set into our hearts has not yet been fulfilled. The great prophecies in Ezekiel chapters 20, 36 and 37 tell us when, how and why this will happen:

    Ezekiel 20:39-44 Now, you Israelites, [Scattered among the nations as at present, but now identified as every true Christian person. Romans 9:8] go and serve your idols. But in days to come, I shall punish you for your disobedience to Me and no more will you desecrate My holy Name with your idolatries. But after I have gathered you into the Land of Israel, you will serve Me and the nations will witness it. You will know that I am the Lord, [BEFORE the Return of Jesus, Ezekiel 34:30] when I bring you back to the Land that I swore to give to your forebears and you will despise your old evil ways and follow only My Commandments. You will know that the Lord has done this for you, not for your sake, but for the honour of His holy Name.

    Ezekiel 36:1-7the enemy boasts: The ancient heights of Israel are ours. [the current situation] Therefore the Lord says: The mountains of Israel, now occupied by other peoples and plundered and despoiled by them, so I will act in the heat of My anger against those Edomite peoples who have seized My Land as spoil. [Edom: the descendants of Esau, now identified as the Islamic peoples.] Jeremiah 12:14, Ezekiel 30:2-5

    This will be the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, an event extensively prophesied throughout the Bible – a literal Day of fire from the sun, earthquakes, tsunamis and powerful storms. All of the world will be affected, but the full force of this disaster will hit the Middle East, virtually depopulating the entire area.


    These are the great promises of our redemption and the great gathering:

    Ezekiel 37:11-14 The Lord said: These bones are the whole people of Israel, [every Christian person] They say: Our bones are dry, [spiritually bereft] our hope is gone [Acts 26:6-7] and we are cut off. [separated from the holy Land] Prophesy, therefore, the Lord God has said: My people, I shall bring you out of your graves, [your dead spiritual condition] I shall put My spirit into you, redeem and purify you, then I shall settle you into your heritage. Ezekiel 30:11-26, Ezekiel 20:34-38

    Ezekiel 36:24-28 The Lord says: I am going to take the Israelites from where they are among the nations, I shall assemble them from every location and bring them to their homeland. I shall purify them from everything that defiles them, give them a new heart and put a new spirit within them. I shall place My spirit in My people, they will conform to My statutes and observe My Laws faithfully. THEN they will live in the holy Land that I gave to their forebears, they will be My people and I will be their God.

    Isaiah 51:1-2We Christians belong to the Seed from Abraham. Galatians 3:26-29

    So, the sequence of events is: first, the great Day of the Lord’s wrath, next His people are gathered and purified, then they are settled into all of the holy Land. The Lord will make a Covenant of peace and prosperity with them. He keeps His part by destroying the Gog/Magog attack.
    Some years later, Jesus will Return for His Millennium reign.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Bull!

    the church is the new covenant!

    the new covenant began at Pentecost and is initiated by baptismal regeneration
     
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    Oh how long will the lies spew out of your mouth, the new covenant is between Jesus and God, has nothing to do with your church, are you going to insist on stealing stuff that doesnt belong to you and making a mockery of God or does that not matter to you.
     
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    Baptismal regeneration

    Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    This is the promise or sacred oath (sacrament) refered to in acts 2:38-39
     
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    the new covenant is between God and His people those who are in His church by baptism with Christ as the mediator
     
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    Jn 1:29
    Jn 3:16
    Lk 2:10

    All people
    The whole world
    Whosoever
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    As messiah maybe
     
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    In whom is your salvation????
     
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    I am a new covenant Levite. Since I'm not clear on all things myself, I will say that I agree with most of what you said. Shalom.
     
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    Christ and His church and His sacraments
     
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    Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
    Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 acts 9 eph 2:20

    Lk 10:16
    He who hears you hears me...

    John 13:20
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

    Jn 20:21-23
    Who’s sins you (the apostles/ bishops/ new covenant priests) forgive are forgiven them
     
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