The new Pope has been selected

[Lizbeth]

Nice to hear you say this!

:-)

Much love!

Brother, I've said a few times that I don't disagree with your President's policies in principle. My "political opinions" run conservative because I believe that is generally the wiser course for a nation and its government to take, and also the liberals/Democrats in the west have become far too liberal (left) and also corrupt. But we must not be naive so as to think politicians on both sides of the aisle aren't bought and paid for by their campaign contributors. That's the way this fallen world and its institutions roll, and we should have our eyes wide open. I've come to realize the western world essentially has oligarchs like Russia, except ours have been keeping to the background out of sight, up to now at least. Only the blessing of God can keep evil at bay, He is the only one with power over evil. If/when He is blessing.

 

[Behold]

1st of all I would not call Catholicism a cult,

The original "church fathers" in Ephesis, created that term for its new religion.
THEY titled it, "cult of Mary"........and later it was rebranded as the Catholic Church.

Do some study, as its interesting that Catholics know very little about the root and foundation of the Cult that controls their mind.

who are we to judge them?

Christians are in the devil's world.
They are surrounded by fake Christians and false doctrine and Demonic Religious institutions.

If the Christian does not JUDGE.......all this........by "discernment"........according to the NT, then you'll end up in a cult.

This is what happened to you.

The point they take from Matthew 16:18 is Peter means rock, and than Jesus says "on this rock I will build My church".

The revelation of Jesus as Messiah, is the "rock upon which the church is built".

Peter recognized Jesus as Messiah, and said so, and Jesus told Him that upon this rock..... = HIS IDENTITY as MESSIAH, the Church will be built.

Yes Paul had a very big impact after he turned around from persecuting Christians.

Paul wrote all the Church Doctrine, and had to correct Peter in public for not walking the walk, and behaving correctly "according to the Truth.""""

Peter carried the cross Christ was crucified on,

You just lied. @Josho
Peter never carried Christ's Cross.
In fact when all this was happening to Jesus, .. Peter was denying Jesus and hiding like a coward.

 

[Josho]

The original "church fathers" in Ephesis, created that term for its new religion.
THEY titled it, "cult of Mary"........and later it was rebranded as the Catholic Church.

Do some study, as its interesting that Catholics know very little about the root and foundation of the Cult that controls their mind.




Christians are in the devil's world.
They are surrounded by fake Christians and false doctrine and Demonic Religious institutions.

If the Christian does not JUDGE.......all this........by "discernment"........according to the NT, then you'll end up in a cult.

This is what happened to you.



The revelation of Jesus as Messiah, is the "rock upon which the church is built".

Peter recognized Jesus as Messiah, and said do, and Jesus told Him that upon this rock..... = HIS IDENTITY as MESSIAH, the Church will be built.



Paul wrote all the Church Doctrine, and had to correct Peter in public for not walking the walk, and behaving correctly arrording to Truth.



You just lied. @Josho
Peter never carried Christ's Cross.
In fact when all this was happening to Jesus, .. Peter was denying Jesus and hiding like a coward.

I stand corrected it was Simon of Cyrene & not Simon Peter that carried Christ's Cross, however there is no denying that Peter played an important role in the early Church in the upper room & was very close to Jesus.

And nonsense, I did not end up in any cult, it has been a while since I have seen you, but have you not learnt to watch your mouth?

 

[Josho]

@Behold while yes Peter means rock in Greek.

Christ is the cornerstone, however Peter was given a very important role in the early Church.

 

[Josho]

Anyway this is meant to be about the new Pope, I believe Pope Leo is a good man & stands up for what's right.

We need an influential figure that stands up against abortion & euthanasia & gender ideology. This could not happen at a more important time.

 

[Behold]

I stand corrected it was Simon of Cyrene & not Simon Peter that carried Christ's Cross, however there is no denying that Peter played an important role in the early Church in the upper room & was very close to Jesus.

In the "upper room" Peter was in the audience.
That was his "role" during the "Last Supper".

And nonsense, I did not end up in any cult, it has been a while since I have seen you, but have you not learnt to watch your mouth?

 

[Josho]

@Behold I am non-denoninational, thank you very much, however I try to see the good in different denominations.

 

[Behold]

@Behold while yes Peter means rock in Greek.

Christ is the cornerstone, however Peter was given a very important role in the early Church.

Peter was married, is not a Pope, and Peter stated in 2 Peter that "Paul's Letters" are SCRIPTURE.

This means that Peter had Paul's Letters, and stated that these letter are equal to the TORAH.........

Later, Paul's letters became most of the Epistles in the NT.

 

[Behold]

@Behold I am non-denoninational, thank you very much, however I try to see the good in different denominations.

According to your posts to me.........YOU are so busy looking for a way to accept what is wrong, that you have destroyed your own capacity to see what is false., or even care to find out.

Are You are one of those " forum types" who rates everything backwards........ like this.....>"well, does it show LOVE"...?????????????????

See that?

Listen,
That is NOT how you find out who is a devil, who is a Doctrinal Deceiver and what Church is Satanic and pretends to be "the one true".
But it is the way to become totally deceived

 

[Behold]

Anyway this is meant to be about the new Pope, I believe Pope Leo is a good man & stands up for what's right.

Tell us what you see in this photo of a 100 Ft (30 meter) Tall Plastic Mary and the Catholics who are going up that Hill to worship her, that is "Good".

And the new POPE will lead them there.... and YOU too.
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[Hey You!]

@Behold while yes Peter means rock in Greek.

Christ is the cornerstone, however Peter was given a very important role in the early Church.

Hey @Josho , have you considered the Council of Jerusalem? Saint Peter spoke, and Saint James corrected him. Acts 15...

Shouldn't Saint James be the first Pope?

 

[Behold]

Hey @Josho , have you considered the Council of Jerusalem? Saint Peter spoke, and Saint James corrected him there. Acts 15...

Shouldn't Saint James be the first Pope?

Good point.

How about the time when there were 6 Popes, all at the same time all claiming to be the "Pope".... all saying the others were the "anti-Christ". @Josho

Mel Gibson should make that : MOVIE.

My Favorite Roman Pontif is : "Pope Joan".

She was ahead of her time........ if this history is true......and its "suspect".

 

[Josho]

You are so busy looking for a way to accept what is wrong, that you have destroyed your own capacity to see what is false., or even care to find out.

You are one of those " forum types" who rates everything backwards........ like this.....>"well, does it show LOVE"...?????????????????

See that?

That is NOT how you find out who is a devil, who is a Doctrinal Deceiver and what Church is Satanic and pretends to be "the one true".
But it is the way to become totally deceived


= WAKE UP.

The DEVIL is not a "myth".

The devil is very real there is no denying that.

However why divide the true believers @Behold? As far as I am concerned there are born again Catholics & then there are those who claim to be "Catholic" who aren't born again, who were just splashed with water as a baby & never really stepped into the faith as they grew up.

You are putting them in all the same basket though.

There are some very devout Catholics out there that are very close to Jesus. Does not the grace of the Lord cover them as they have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord & Saviour.

You preach grace so you should know better....

Peter was married, is not a Pope, and Peter stated in 2 Peter that "Paul's Letters" are SCRIPTURE.

This means that Peter had Paul's Letters, and stated that these letter are equal to the TORAH.........

Later, Paul's letter became most of the Epistles in the NT.

Sigh.... celibacy is a man made condition on RCC, they will have their reasons for that, which you could probably find in the Catechism. However I am pointing from their viewpoint on why Peter is considered the first pope.

 

[Behold]

However why divide the true believers @Behold? As far as I am concerned there are born again Catholics

Its the heretics, its the cult members who divided the body of Christ into. :

Catholics.
Mormons
JWs
Calvinists.
and many more....

God does not create "denominations"......>MAN does., and i am a part of a Messianic Denomiation, because its Jewish believers......so, that is different then claiming you are a Baptist, or a Assembly of God.


And there are born again in every Cult.....but you dont accept the Cult.....because you can find a Christian in one.
"Chirstian" Cults are universally designed to ALSO trap Christians who have no final authority other then their feeling and opinions.
These "Christians" are not students of the Bible and they have no depth of understanding regarding the NT, according to Paul's teaching.
So they are "easy meat" for a Cult to grab their mind, and own it, for life.

So, when we point out a CULT.......we are not trying to prove that there are no Christians, born again, who are trapped within it......we are trying to keep them OUT of it. @Josho.

who claim to be "Catholic" who aren't born again, who were just splashed with water as a baby & never really stepped into the faith as they grew up.

Catholic theology teaches that Salvation occurs when the Water Baptism is administered.
This is "baptismal regeneration" and its found in their demonic Catholic Bible, the Douay Rheims, .. in John 3.

If you talk to a Real Catholic, on this Fourm, or in real life, they will tell you that you can't be born again without water baptism.

If you give them clear and obvious examples where someone is born again, without water baptism being available.

Like.

In a Prison cell.
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On their death bed in a Hospital

Or in a country that does not ALLOW Christianity, or Bibles, or Water Baptism.

So, you show this REALITY to a Catholic and they just stutter and stand there, can't conceive of it, because they are MIND OWNED by their Cult.

There are some very devout Catholics out there that are very close to Jesus. Does not the grace of the Lord cover them as they have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord & Saviour.

As i explained to you, in the Photos......... These "cult of mary" members, are going to worship Mary.
I showed you the POPE bowed before MARY.

So, that is not trying to prove that there are no Christians in the Cult.........its simply showing you "the CULT.. .OF MARY">.. and that is not of God.

You preach grace so you should know better....

You are a staff member, trying to be a cheerleader for the "Cult of Mary".
I think you should know better, but you dont.......yet.

However I am pointing from their viewpoint on why Peter is considered the first pope.

Its one thing to teach what a cult teaches, but when you try to prove it AS TRUE....... then you have an issue.

 

[Josho]

Its the heretics, its the cult members who divided the body of Christ into. :

Catholics.
Mormons
JWs
Calvinists.
and many more....

God does not create "denominations"......>MAN does., and i am a part of a Messianic Denomiation, because its Jewish believers......so, that is different then claiming you are a Baptist, or a Assembly of God.


And there are born again in every Cult.....but you dont accept the Cult.....because you can find a Christian in one.
"Chirstian" Cults are universally designed to ALSO trap Christians who have no final authority other then their feeling and opinions.
These "Christians" are not students of the Bible and they have no depth of understanding regarding the NT, according to Paul's teaching.
So they are "easy meat" for a Cult to grab their mind, and own it, for life.

So, when we point out a CULT.......we are not trying to prove that there are no Christians, born again, who are trapped within it......we are trying to keep them OUT of it. @Josho.



Catholic theology teaches that Salvation occurs when the Water Baptism is administered.
This is "baptismal regeneration" and its found in their demonic Catholic Bible, the Douay Rheims, .. in John 3.

If you talk to a Real Catholic, on this Fourm, or in real life, they will tell you that you can't be born again without water baptism.

If you give them clear and obvious examples where someone is born again, without water baptism being available.

Like.

In a Prison cell.
'
On their death bed in a Hospital

Or in a country that does not ALLOW Christianity, or Bibles, or Water Baptism.

So, you show this REALITY to a Catholic and they just stutter and stand there, can't conceive of it, because they are MIND OWNED by their Cult.




As i explained to you, in the Photos......... These "cult of mary" members, are going to worship Mary.
I showed you the POPE bowed before MARY.

So, that is not trying to prove that there are no Christians in the Cult.........its simply showing you "the CULT.. .OF MARY">.. and that is not of God.



You are a staff member, trying to be a cheerleader for the "Cult of Mary".
I think you should know better, but you dont.......yet.



Its one thing to teach what a cult teaches, but when you try to prove it AS TRUE....... then you have an issue.

As for this Mary thing, there are some who idolise Mary but not all of them do, you are just putting them all in the same basket.

Part of their Catholic Doctrine is they believe they can pray with the Saints to Jesus, like the Saints are their intercessors. However I am not so sure about that, it's a part of their Doctrine I would rather stay away from.

And as you probably know some Christians believe the Saints are still dead & buried until the 2nd coming, some Christians believe the Saints & believers who have passed away are already up there in heaven worshipping Jesus, Catholics believe the latter, I think I also believe the latter too. The earthly bodies of Christians of course remain here on earth, but their soul & spirit enters heaven.

However belief in whether the Saints & Christians who have passed away are already up there or not, is not a Salvation issue.

 

[Behold]

As for this Mary thing, there are some who idolise Mary but not all of them do,

You cant be a Catholic and not venerate Mary, as that is the core of the Catholic Doctrine.

You seem to be disconnected from some reality, concerning not just Peter, but The Catholic Church's teaching.

Part of their Catholic Doctrine is they believe they can pray with the Saints to Jesus, like the Saints are their intercessors. However I am not so sure about that, it's a part of their Doctrine I would rather stay away from.

We pray to God and Christ.

Feel free to pray to Mary, or Peter, or St Nick, if you find out they died on the Cross for your sin on their way to the Grave.
If not....then dont do as the "cult of Mary" does. Do not bow before a plastic statue of Mary, and do not support this demonic situaiton on a CHRISTIAN forum.

However belief in whether the Saints & Christians who have passed away are already up there or not, is not a Salvation issue.

Praying to dead Saints, who are in Heaven, is not of God.
Stop trying to defend what isn't reas "Christian" doctrine or behavior, @Josho
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[Hey You!]

Good point.

Thanks...

Good points are often skipped, when they shouldn't be. This means Posters are here just for Fun...

 

[Pearl]

Instead of being critical of the new pope we need to take time to pray that God will use him to bring truth and change to the catholic church. He has a heavy burden and needs the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Instead of being critical of the new pope we need to take time to pray that God will use him to bring truth and change to the catholic church. He has a heavy burden and needs the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Yeah, no need to warn others that the catholics teach a fake gospel that leads people to hell. </sarcasm>

 

[Pearl]

Yeah, no need to warn others that the catholics teach a fake gospel that leads people to hell. </sarcasm>

So if that's really the case it's more reason to pray for them.