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The Relationship Between Israel and the Church
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Spiritual Israelite
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He just told me a little bit ago that he is a "deist reactionary". You can look up what that means. I did and it's not good. A person with those beliefs denies the deity of Christ and denies that we can have a personal relationship with God. And they believe that there are errors in the Bible, among other disturbing things.
amigo de christo
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one body one destiny .
as for all jews and all gentiles OUTSIDE that body their destiny is the fire .
Verily verily i do say unto thee
A jew can be every bit as much an anti christ as can a g entile .
And b oth will wail loudly on the day of the LORD .
The flesh profits nothing . AND ITS JESUS POINTING TIME in the house .
No way? Why are all these religious apostates attracted to this forum? Probably because they are allowed to spread their nonsense. No one else will listen them in the real world.
Spiritual Israelite
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amigo de christo
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what did GOD tell them IN issaih , that every KNEE shall bow before me and every tongue shall confess to me .
And folks wonder WHY it was written
in the beginning was THE WORD and the WORD was with GOD and the WORD was GOD .
For every knee shall bow before HIM and confess to Him .
And when reading the old test , how often i hear the LORD say
I AM the FIRST and i am the last
I am alpha and omega .
AND when JOHN turned to see the voice that spoke to him , HE saw one
who appeared as THE SON of MAN
and the first words outta his mouth to john were
Worry not , I AM THE FIRST and THE LAST .
those who chose to deny the diety of CHRIST , deny a whole lot more than they realize .
Its quite deadly . Though i do understand if one does not completely undersetand this mystery .
BUT if they twist and omit scriptures to fit a lie . THEY DO MASSIVE damage to themselves .
SO denying the WORD WAS GOD . THAT IS A BIG MISTAKE .
this might shock this generation , but GOD did not create HIS WORD , HE DID NOT create the SON .
THE WORD simply became flesh . FOR OUR SALVATION THIS HAD TO BE DONE .
That was not a man . THAT WAS THE WORD in flesh . AND BY HIM ALL THINGS created WERE created .
JESUS was not just a spirit filled prophet . HE WAS AND IS THE WORD OF GOD and that WORD
was in THE BEGINNING and that WORD was GOD . people better watch out .
Again i aint saying they have to totally understand , but i am saying , DONT TWIST AND OMIT scrips
to fit what a LYING MAN said it meant . JUST BELIEVE what is written . BELEIVE IT AS DO A CHILD . EVEN
if it is not understood . JUST BELEIVE . The understanding will come in time . AT least as much of it was we need to know .
We should not give them any credibility engaging with them. They are dangerous.
Spiritual Israelite
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Right. We are not expected to fully understand how Jesus is both fully God and man, but the Bible clearly teaches it, so it's unacceptable for anyone to deny it. And people with his beliefs claim that the Bible has errors. So, apparently, they think the many scriptures which teach that Jesus is God are all in error. It's just sad to witness this kind of deception.
Spiritual Israelite
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Absolutely. They need to be exposed for who they really are. And that's why I let you know what his beliefs actually are. That explains his strange responses to our posts.
amigo de christo
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you can blame the seeker friendly intefaith co exist camp. THEY have no idea HOW to witness
and they darn sure dont know how to correct . THEY allow , allow , allow what should actually
BE CORRECTED and even allow a false gospel to be taught . ALL under the banner its loving to do so .
NO its leavening to do so . We should not have allowed much of what these co existers allow .
See its got so bad now , THAT ABOUT the only thing THEY WONT ALLOW
are those who do rebuke and do correct , cause man that gets in the way of unity and co existing .
TILL NOW you walk into a church . SEE what they ALLOW . sins , unrepentant sinners
and not only that , but even allow them TO TEACH and to seduce the people .
BUT you will quickly notice what THEY DO NOT ALLOW . IF YOU OPEN A BIBLE and read
OH YOU WILL SEE REAL fast what they WONT tolerate , wont allow and will call HATE SPEECH .
ahint , THE VERY WORDS OF GOD HIMSELF and his people who speak or read them .
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE GOD HIMSELF , CHRIST HIMSELF , HIS WORDS are what are on TRIAL
in many churches today
and their verdict , ITS HATE SPEECH , GET IT OUT and GET YOU OUT . something went wrong .
Spiritual Israelite
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I shared the gospel with him since he obviously isn't aware of it since he has been deceived by his cult. He doesn't seem open to the gospel right now, but we can pray for him.
amigo de christo
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again you can thank the judge not , name not crowd .
Cause heck if you even name names of false teachers , that a big no no today .
But lets see HOW GOD views things shall we .
HOW does GOD view allowing a false teacher , allowing a false teacher to seduce his people .
OH YEAH , HE REBUKED THEM SHARPLY and warned them NOT TOO .
but today if we name a name of a f alse one its , DONT JUDGE . kinda strange huh .
And people wonder WHY and HOW leaven took over .
WELL what did paul tell the church that was allowing a man who had his fathers wife
to remain in said church .
GET HIM OUT . dont you know that a little leaven will leaven the whole lump .
THEY actually corrected sin in the church . Now after a time the man was let back in .
HE was led to REPENTANCE . todays hug a thon causes NONE TO REPENT and LEAVEN TO TAKE OVER the place .
I SEE NO LOVE OF GOD in that or in them that do this .
GOD LOVED . GOD CORRECTED , GOD SENT Prophets to warn and correct
THE SON LOVED , HE TOO corrected sin and error .
THe aposetles loved , THEY TOO corrected sin and error in that church .
GOD said
YE SHALL NOT hate your neighbor in your heart you shall in any way REBUKE HIM and not allow sin upon him .
THEY said , HEY that hates , shut up , dont judge , just hug and love them to GOD . AND that is why
leaven took over . for love they preach hate and see the LOVE OF GOD as HATEFUL and the love of the world as good .
amigo de christo
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i understand that folks see me as Grave .
In fact they see that as wrong .
But tell me were not the people to have been grave , specially your leaders .
You know about the only grave i see in many is GRAVEY SMOOTH sin allwoing sermons
that correct nothing and no one CEPT those who do correct who do bring the words of GOD to correct .
A serious problem has occured .
That which ought never have been done has been done within a lot of churches .
IT became the world . Till now they have no idea what true christanity has lost
and that many of them are still lost . many follow another jesus and another god all together .
BUT have no idea they do .
TILL NOW , if JESUS returned in the form of a man and the apostels were ressurected and all walked into
churches . GUESS what they would be told by a lot of christains .
HEY JUDGERS , THATS HATE , that aint what paul taught , it aint what peter said
HEY you all NEED JESUS . the only problem is , THEY WOULD SAY THIS TO JESUS HIMSELF .
HEY you dont know LOVE , YOU DONT KNOW GOD , YOU NEED JESUS . you think i am probably wrong about that
or that perhaps that might be a b it of a s tretch .
BUT I TELL us all ITS NOT . You see none of us has seen JESUS with our eyes , NO man has seen GOD .
SO HOW WE TREAT HIS WORDS , WELL NOW that is HOW WE TREAT HIM .
amigo de christo
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and what DID JESUS say to do to those who rejected the gospel .
What did john say about those who bring not this doctrine .
What did paul say to do if even we , an angel or etc brings ANY other gospel unto you ................
IF one hears not the gospel
if one tries to bring another gospel
And that one wont recieve the truth and correction . ITS CALLED REMOVE THEM . but oh no
its obvious that aint done . its rather judge not you dont know his heart . odd huh .
In fact even if brethren are IN SIN , are a fornicator , covetous , idolator etc
Wasnt the command NOT TO EVEN eat with such .
BUT AGAIN their response , DONT JUDGE , HEY WE ALL SIN . SHUT up hater . stop judging .
Odd huh .
But look again for it gets worse . Till now you got not only sin not being corrected , IT LED and leads TO ACCEPTANCE OF IT .
cause well leaven does that .
But look again and ye shall see even worse .
NOW under the same judge not b anner
WHEN one even says the muslims , hindus , etc DO NOT know GOD , NEED to repent to beleive ON JESUS
well here is the response , OH DONT JUDGE , YOU dont know their hearts
There are good people in all religoins .
DO YA SEE the problem yet . WHEN LEAVEN is allowed to remain
ITS GONNA GROW . cause error only begets MORE ERROR till the whole is leavend up full .
WE are in serious trouble my friend . And when i say we i mean the churches . my soul has wept for them
and by grace for years i have been warning . But man its only getting worse all the time .
amigo de christo
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we both know anyone can say I LOVE GOD . even many jews did .
We both know many christains say can I LOVE GOD , I LOVE CHRIST .
But seeing no man has ever once SEEN GOD , SEEN CHRIST in the flesh .
I have a real good idea that can show and prove if one truly does LOVE HIM .
BRING THE HOLY SCRIPS , BRING HIS WORDS
then be prepared to see teh REAL pharisess in action as they cast THEM OUT .
heck they b een calling me a pharisee for years .
BUT BRING HIS WORDS and YOU SEE who and what GETS CAST OUT .
THAT IS HOW I KNOW THEY WOULD HAVE CAST OUT JESUS TOO .
IF we cast out his words , WE WOULD have done the same as did the pharisees
who cast him out FOR HIS WORDS and what HE TAUGHT .
amigo de christo
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what did GOD tell the jews .
YOU cast MY WORDS behind you . well hello lots of christendom so do YOU .
And i aint saying that to be mean . i say it as a wake up call . My desire IS GOOD for the people
and not their destruction . Tis why i have long been saying , TIME to get into the bible now .
YOU cast MY WORDS behind you . well hello lots of christendom so do YOU .
And i aint saying that to be mean . i say it as a wake up call . My desire IS GOOD for the people
and not their destruction . Tis why i have long been saying , TIME to get into the bible now .
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