The Sun Shall Be Turned Into Darkness

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One cannot have a New Heavenly Jerusalem without an Old Earthly Jerusalem.

God's Power to Save goes beyond what most can comprehend...

Revelation 19:8
"And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints"


One must be careful of who One hates and who One points their fingers at. One just may get those fingers pointed right back at the One in the mirror.
 

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Yet More historical citations:

“The darkness of the following evening was probably as gross as ever has been observed since the Almighty fiat gave birth to light. . . I could not help conceiving at the time, that if every luminous body in the universe had been shrouded in impenetrable shades, or struck out of existence, the darkness could not have been more complete. A sheet of white paper held within a few inches of the eyes, was equally invisible with the blackest velvet.” Samuel Tenney, in Collections of Massachusetts Historical Society for the year 1792, volume 1, pp. 97, 98

“The extent of the darkness was very remarkable ... From the accounts that have been received it seems to have extended all over the New England States. It was observed as far east as Falmouth [Portland, Maine]. To the westward, we hear of its reaching to the furthest parts of Connecticut, and Albany. To the southward, it was observed all along the seacoasts. And to the north as far as our settlements extend." William Gordon, History of the Rise, Progress, and Establishment of the Independence of the U.S.A., Vol. III, p. 57

"With regard to its duration, it continued in this place at least fourteen hours: but it is probable this was not exactly the same in different parts of the country. The appearance and effects were such as tended to make the prospect extremely dull and gloomy. Candles were lighted up in the houses; the birds having sung their evening songs, disappeared, and became silent; the fowls retired to roost; the cocks were crowing all around as at break of day; objects could not be distinguished but at a very little distance; and everything bore the appearance and gloom of night." Samuel Williams, An Account of a Very Uncommon Darkness in the States of New England, May 19, 1780 in Memoirs of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, Boston, 1785, pp. 234-246

"The Dark Day, May 19, 1780 -- so-called on account of a remarkable darkness on that day extending over all New England ... The obscuration began about ten o'clock in the morning, and continued till the middle of the next night, but with difference and duration in different places ... The true cause of this remarkable phenomena is not known." Noah Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, Vocabulary of the Names of Noted ... Persons and Places, ed. 1869, 1882 & 1883

"About eleven o'clock the darkness was such as to demand our attention, and put us upon making observations. At half past eleven, in a room with three windows, twenty-four panes each, all open toward the southeast and south, large print could not be read by persons of good eyes.” Samuel Tenney, in Collections of the Massachusetts’s Historical Society for the Year 1792, Vol. I, pp. 97-98

"About one o'clock a glint of light which had continued to this time in the east, shut in, and the darkness was greater than it had been for any time before ... We dined about two, the windows all open, and two candles burning on the table. In the time of the greatest darkness some of the ... fowls went to their roost. Cocks crowed in answer to one another as they commonly do in the night. Woodcocks, which are night birds, whistled as they do only in the dark. Frogs peeped. In short, there was the appearance of midnight at noonday." Correspondent's report from Ipswich Hamlet, Massachusetts, Boston's Gazette and Country Journal, May 29, 1780

"Perhaps it never was darker since the children of Israel left the house of bondage. This gross darkness held till about one o'clock, although the moon had fulled but the day before." Report from Salem, Boston’s Gazette and Country Journal, May 30, 1780

"During the whole time a sickly, melancholy gloom overcast the face of nature. Nor was the darkness of the night less uncommon and terrifying than that of the day; notwithstanding there was almost a full moon, no object was discernible, but by the help of some artificial light, which when seen from the neighboring house and other places at a distance, appeared through a kind of Egyptian darkness, which seemed almost impervious to rays." Isaiah Thomas, Massachusetts Spy; or `American Oracle of Liberty, Vol. 10, No. 472, May 25, 1780

"This unusual phenomenon excited the fears and apprehensions of many people. Some considered it as a portentous omen of the wrath of Heaven in vengeance denounced against the land, others as the immediate harbinger of the last day, when `the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light.' The Boston Independent Chronicle of June 8, 1780 quoted from Thomas's Massachusetts Spy. See also `Some Memorials of Edward Lee' in The Publications of the American Tract Society, Vol. XI, p. 376

“Various have been the sentiments of people concerning the designs of Providence in spreading the unusual darkness over us. Some suppose it portentous of the last scene. I wish it may have some good effect on the minds of the wicked, and that they may be excited to prepare for that solemn day." The Boston Independent Chronicle of June 8, 1780 quoted from Thomas's Massachusetts Spy. See also `Some Memorials of Edward Lee' in The Publications of the American Tract Society, Vol. XI, p. 376

"That the darkness was not caused by an eclipse is manifest by the various positions of our system at that time; for the moon was more than one hundred fifty degrees from the sun all that day." Dr. Samuel Stearns, who had been appealed to because of his knowledge in "philosophy and astronomy", in a letter printed in the Independent Chronicle, June 22, 1780.

Dr. Stearns continues in good King James English:

"The primary cause must be imputed to Him that walketh through the circuit of heaven, who stretcheth out the heaven like a curtain, who maketh the clouds his chariot, who walketh upon the wings of the wind. It was He, at whose voice the stormy winds are obedient, that commanded these exhalations to be collected and condensed together, that with them He might darken both the day and the night; which darkness was, perhaps, not only a token of His indignation against the crying iniquities and abominations of the people, but an omen of some future destruction." Dr. Samuel Stearns, who had been appealed to because of his knowledge in "philosophy and astronomy", in a letter printed in the Independent Chronicle, June 22, 1780

"The legislature of Connecticut was then in session in Hartford. A very general opinion prevailed that the Day of Judgment was at hand. The House of Representatives, being unable to transact their business, adjourned. A proposal to adjourn the council [a second legislative body called the Governor's Council] was under consideration. When the opinion of Colonel Davenport was asked, he answered, `I am against an adjournment. The day of judgment is either approaching or it is not. If it is not, there is no cause for an adjournment; if it is, I choose to be found doing my duty. I wish therefore that candles may be brought.'" Timothy Dwight of Yale College, contemporary, wrote this account according to John W. Barber, Connecticut Historical Collections, p. 403

"The Dark Day, May 19, 1780 - so called on account of a remarkable darkness on that day extending over all New England ... The true cause of this phenomenon is not known. ... The dark day in Northern America was one of those wonderful phenomena of nature which will always be read of with interest, but which philosophy is at a loss to explain." Gage's History of Rowley, Massachusetts
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You are welcome. If you would like any of the historical citations for the earthquake (Revelation 6:12; November 1 , 1755 - Great Lisbon Earthquake) or for the stars falling (Revelation 6:13; November 13, 1833 - Unprecedented Great Leonid Meteor Shower) please let me know.
 

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One cannot have a New Heavenly Jerusalem without an Old Earthly Jerusalem.

God's Power to Save goes beyond what most can comprehend...

Revelation 19:8
"And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints"


One must be careful of who One hates and who One points their fingers at. One just may get those fingers pointed right back at the One in the mirror.
You are mistaken. The old man, and the old way will forever perish in it's iniquity.

Rev_21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Rev_21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.​

To 'her' is the final phase of the woman of Revelation 12, in the 'remnant' who had become Laodicean.

God has said of the Jerusalem of old, and the temple therein -

Mat_23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Mar_11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

Mar_11:20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.

Luk_13:7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?

Luk_13:9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.​

The people therein have said:

Mat_27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.​

So it is even to this very moment.
 

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And yet Christians are taught that God's Spirit will be removed. Which is it?
It is both. There is a time and a season for everything. But the Holy Spirit will be removed only temporarily, until the reign of the Antichrist comes to an end. And he is given only 3 1/2 years to rule on earth.
 

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You are welcome. If you would like any of the historical citations for the earthquake (Revelation 6:12; November 1 , 1755 - Great Lisbon Earthquake) or for the stars falling (Revelation 6:13; November 13, 1833 - Unprecedented Great Leonid Meteor Shower) please let me know.
Meteors are not "stars." A meteor (or several) can be seen entering Earth's atmosphere almost any night of the year, as it has always been.
 

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Meteors are not "stars." A meteor (or several) can be seen entering Earth's atmosphere almost any night of the year, as it has always been.
Webster's 1828 dictionary:

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Meteor: "... We call by the same name those fire balls which are usually denominated falling stars ..." - Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - meteor

Falling-Star: "FALL'ING-STAR, noun A luminous meteor, suddenly appearing and darting through the air." - Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - Falling-star

Thus those texts which speak of those bodies that leave the heaven, shining bright, like a great red dragon, having a tail, and falling to the earth, digging their own pit, from which arises smoke.

Nothing was like the unprecedented (recorded at least) event of November 13, 1833, and there are many historical citations on it, even mentioned in the Native American year charts of events across the country.
 

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Meteors are chunks of rock that fly around space. They are not "stars." Calling something a "star" does not make it one. We call certain insects, "Dragon Flies." They are not Dragons.
And references to "stars" in the Bible are usually talking about societal heads of power.
 

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And references to "stars" in the Bible are usually talking about societal heads of power.
Or even angels/messengers sent from God. Some of them have, however, fallen! So then we also have fallen angels/messengers!
 

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Meteors are chunks of rock that fly around space. They are not "stars." Calling something a "star" does not make it one. We call certain insects, "Dragon Flies." They are not Dragons.
And references to "stars" in the Bible are usually talking about societal heads of power.
Notice the contrast of that which is actually in Heaven (2nd) and that which is on earth:

Luk_21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;​

Luke 21:25, related to the other texts cited previously, is not speaking about symbolical stars, but those things which are in the second heaven along with the Sun and Moon.

PS I trust what the dictionary of Webster (1828, cited previously) says (as it uses the KJB for definitions) over your personal in mind-only dictionary.
 

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Or even angels/messengers sent from God. Some of them have, however, fallen! So then we also have fallen angels/messengers!
First "natural", then "spiritual". Both and not either. One then the other.
 
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Stars singing and Sons of God shouting...

Job 38:7
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"


*Before* anything was made.
 

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Stars singing and Sons of God shouting...

Job 38:7
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"


*Before* anything was made.
No. Genesis 1 and Job 38:7 are speaking of local Sol space, not of the entire universe, which God put into existence and then placed the angels and unfallen beings on the unfallen worlds God had made.
 

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firstthings1st. said:
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh...

Base12 said:
And yet Christians are taught that God's Spirit will be removed.
Which is it?

To us it is like the scriptures is saying, how it is to you?

Crazy answer.

Perhaps Scripture has ABSOLUTE TRUTHS, or perhaps Scripture has ABSOLUTELY NO TRUTH. -- Personally, I see ABSOLUTE TRUTH, given that often we must understand beyond the limitations of the words to see the heart of GOD. -- Or possibly throw out both the words and GOD as incomprehensible, -- which seems to be the intention of the above "response".


It's OK to say: "I can't explain what might appear to be a contradiction", but to defer the question is a "cop-out".
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... and let me suggest that when we experience global thermonuclear war, -- the sun will be darkened through all the smoke and ash in the air, giving us only two hours of "daylight", and the moon will be turned blood red looking through the same smoke and ash.

And of course, what will preclude global thermonuclear war except "falling stars":

Re-Entry Bodies.jpg

A picture of re-entry body aero-shells ablating against the atmosphere.
(Note the circular star patterns in the background which designates the
stability of the camera with the shutter held "open".)​

Bobby Jo
 
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