The taken and the left

[rebuilder 454]

I agree. So what do you think "left" means? Left out of heaven? Do they then just walk into the lake of fire on their own? NO! They are taken and thrown in - destroyed.

Look at the parables. For instance, the wheat and tares. Who are harvested first, the ones taken or left behind?

Matthew 13:
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”

The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do.

"The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do."

No need for the desperate put downs.
The bible exposes your false doctrine.
In Luke the wheat is gathered first.
So I debunked your hope years ago.
You should check verses BEFORE YOU INACCURATELY MISREPRESENT THEM.
Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

You didnt know what was going on there did you?????
Jesus debunked your deal, but you didn't know, because while you are accusing others of being stupid, I am reading my Bible.
JESUS SAID , the burning of the tares is at the end of the world.
AHEM...AT THE GWTJ.
.....AFTER the mil.
Get a bible , dust it off, check things out....then proceed.
Your deal is nowhere near scriptural.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

"The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do."

No need for the desperate put downs.
The bible exposes your false doctrine.
In Luke the wheat is gathered first.
So I debunked your hope years ago.
You should check verses BEFORE YOU INACCURATELY MISREPRESENT THEM.
Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

You didnt know what was going on there did you?????
Jesus debunked your deal, but you didn't know, because while you are accusing others of being stupid, I am reading my Bible.
JESUS SAID , the burning of the tares is at the end of the world.
AHEM...AT THE GWTJ.
.....AFTER the mil.
Get a bible , dust it off, check things out....then proceed.
Your deal is nowhere near scriptural.

ROFL You say I am the one who posts putdowns. Have your read your own accusations against others? I would rather have discussions with adults who want to learn, not to know-it-all little dogs nipping at my heels. I'm putting you on ignore.

 

[doctrox]

Whew ...you stretched that made up mess so thin it almost disappeared.
Twisting scripture to no end.
You do realize your model would have the groom, IN MAT 25,taking the bride back to HER HOUSE,(your make believe uturn)....WHICH IS A TOTAL FABRICATION and twisting of what is written.
( unbelievable you do not know the bride is taken to the father's house)

QUOTE
"Believers don’t do the hackneyed “go to heaven” thing; rather, Christ sets up his kingdom here, with us. We, being "caught up" with others, meet the Lord in the air and then return back to earth with him."

That is postribber made up talking points.
There is zero possible uturn in any of your post.
Zero.
Noah is gathered and LEAVES.
Lot is gathered and LEAVES
The Baby Jesus is gathered and LEAVES
Rev 14:14 is a gathering to heaven.
( we know this because the FIRSTFRUITS THE 144,000 ARE IN HEAVEN AHEAD OF THEM).... (NO POSSIBLE WAY FOR ANY UTURN THERE EITHER.)
( firstfruits gathering is to the barn, main harvest is the same)

In the last supper dialogue, Jesus says "I GO TO HEAVEN TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU....so That WHERE I am (HEAVEN) YOU MAY BE ALSO"
"IN MY FATHERS HOUSE ARE MANY MANSIONS"...HEAVEN.

You basically do not have any plausable or true argument.

Pssst...Noah RETURNED POSTRIB.
NO PRETRIB UTURN AT ALL.
100% AUTHENTICATING THE PRETRIB RAPTURE.

No scripture = no discernment.

ROFL You say I am the one who posts putdowns. Have your read your own accusations against others? I would rather have discussions with adults who want to learn, not to know-it-all little dogs nipping at my heels. I'm putting you on ignore.

Sadly, same here.