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I agree. So what do you think "left" means? Left out of heaven? Do they then just walk into the lake of fire on their own? NO! They are taken and thrown in - destroyed.

Look at the parables. For instance, the wheat and tares. Who are harvested first, the ones taken or left behind?

Matthew 13:
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”

The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do.

"The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do."

No need for the desperate put downs.
The bible exposes your false doctrine.
In Luke the wheat is gathered first.
So I debunked your hope years ago.
You should check verses BEFORE YOU INACCURATELY MISREPRESENT THEM.
Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

You didnt know what was going on there did you?????
Jesus debunked your deal, but you didn't know, because while you are accusing others of being stupid, I am reading my Bible.
JESUS SAID , the burning of the tares is at the end of the world.
AHEM...AT THE GWTJ.
.....AFTER the mil.
Get a bible , dust it off, check things out....then proceed.
Your deal is nowhere near scriptural.
 
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"The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do."

No need for the desperate put downs.
The bible exposes your false doctrine.
In Luke the wheat is gathered first.
So I debunked your hope years ago.
You should check verses BEFORE YOU INACCURATELY MISREPRESENT THEM.
Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

You didnt know what was going on there did you?????
Jesus debunked your deal, but you didn't know, because while you are accusing others of being stupid, I am reading my Bible.
JESUS SAID , the burning of the tares is at the end of the world.
AHEM...AT THE GWTJ.
.....AFTER the mil.
Get a bible , dust it off, check things out....then proceed.
Your deal is nowhere near scriptural.
ROFL You say I am the one who posts putdowns. Have your read your own accusations against others? I would rather have discussions with adults who want to learn, not to know-it-all little dogs nipping at my heels. I'm putting you on ignore.
 

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In the analogy by Jesus, half are taken, half are left behind.
and
Again half are taken and half are left behind.
Again, you are repeating the same "half"-baked lie and adding to the word of God.

So before the flood, (before the trib), half of a group are taken to a good place.
Half of a group.
Rather, that repeating blunder haunts the bulk of your posts.

Many creative sand castles have been built, intending to house the pre-trib rapture theory, but none have withstood the first storm. Yours is no exception.

Before the flood ( pretrib) half are taken and half left behind.

Interesting how that morrors a pretrib rapture.
and
1) in the "one taken" in mat 24, they need it to be half the world's population is taken, but the believers ( the other 50% ),stay behind BEFORE THE FLOOD.
and
4) in the same pretrib( preflood) setting, half of some group are taken and half left behind.
What group?...it CANNOT be the world's population! ( half saved will NEVER HAPPEN)
and
Zero supporting half the world is righteous, and half wicked.
...more conflation in support of a false doctrine.

The "ones taken" in the Greek is translated "taken to a good place"
...yet another blunder that adds insult to injury.

He's been shown the scriptural truth, while others ask:
Where do you get "half"? That isn't scriptural.

The bible is not stupid.
THE BIBLE SAYS , half are taken and half left behind.
So your mental doctrine has half the world taken to destruction BEFORE THE FLOOD.
Pre-trib theory is one wicked "mental doctrine"...

Again half are taken and half are left behind.
You are ASSUMING half the world is born again and half wicked.
and
2) there is never any time in the future, past, or present where half of Earth's population is born again and half of Earth's population is wicked.( your theory of a pretrib wicked people raptured to hell)
One-half of a sand castle desperately seeking another half...

It’s not a sin to be wrong; it’s not even a sin to be grossly wrong. It is a sin, however, to refuse the reproof, the correction, when the truth of the matter has been made available.
 
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Again, you are repeating the same "half"-baked lie and adding to the word of God.


Rather, that repeating blunder haunts the bulk of your posts.

Many creative sand castles have been built, intending to house the pre-trib rapture theory, but none have withstood the first storm. Yours is no exception.


and

and

and

...more conflation in support of a false doctrine.


...yet another blunder that adds insult to injury.

He's been shown the scriptural truth, while others ask:



Pre-trib theory is one wicked "mental doctrine"...


and

One-half of a sand castle desperately seeking another half...

It’s not a sin to be wrong; it’s not even a sin to be grossly wrong. It is a sin, however, to refuse the reproof, the correction, when the truth of the matter has been made available.
Lol
Getting frustrated at Jesus words are we?


rebuilder 454 said:
"So before the flood, (before the trib), half of a group are taken to a good place.
Half of a group."

Your reckless reply to my mat 24 reference that offends you;

"Rather, that repeating blunder haunts the bulk of your posts."
"Many creative sand castles have been built, intending to house the pre-trib rapture theory, but none have withstood the first storm. Yours is no exception."

You painted yourself into a corner, and can't intelligently answer with a bible.

And you're frustration grows with each verse you must reject.
Mat 24
"Two in a field, one taken, one left"
"Two grinding in a mill, one taken one left"

Sorry that Gods word offends you.
He said it.
It sure does upset you and I am sure you despise it as much as you despise me.

But my Job continues.
Making you go against the bible, which you can not answer without spewing against me personally, for making you reject scripture.

I see that spirit in you clearly.
 
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ROFL You say I am the one who posts putdowns. Have your read your own accusations against others? I would rather have discussions with adults who want to learn, not to know-it-all little dogs nipping at my heels. I'm putting you on ignore.
Lol
You can never answer any post directly.
It is all about despising anyone challenging you.
The bible rules and you can not deal with it.
 

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"The wheat are left and caught up to be in the new heaven and new earth.

You read too much fiction like the Left Behind series, and now you are brainwashed. Stick to the Bible like I do."

No need for the desperate put downs.
The bible exposes your false doctrine.
In Luke the wheat is gathered first.
So I debunked your hope years ago.
You should check verses BEFORE YOU INACCURATELY MISREPRESENT THEM.
Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

You didnt know what was going on there did you?????
Jesus debunked your deal, but you didn't know, because while you are accusing others of being stupid, I am reading my Bible.
JESUS SAID , the burning of the tares is at the end of the world.
AHEM...AT THE GWTJ.
.....AFTER the mil.
Get a bible , dust it off, check things out....then proceed.
Your deal is nowhere near scriptural.
The invitation stands for c lady.
Drop the hatred
Get a bible and go concept vs concept.

I know, I know.
It is so difficult.
Maybe get some Jesus time in.
He will clear out that hatred.
Make you sweet.

It must have been embarrassing not knowing the timing of the tares being burned.

BTW, there is another verse where the wheat is gathered first.
Lol.

Like shooting ducks in a barrel.
The bible rules.
 

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A reckless lie:
The "ones taken" in the Greek is translated "taken to a good place"

...and another faux pas:
You do realize your model would have the groom, IN MAT 25,taking the bride back to HER HOUSE,(your make believe uturn)....WHICH IS A TOTAL FABRICATION and twisting of what is written.
( unbelievable you do not know the bride is taken to the father's house)
Rather, the ten virgins are not the bride; they are witnesses, companions.

Matthew Henry said it best:

The professors of Christianity shall then be likened to these ten virgins, and shall be thus distinguished.

That by which it is illustrated, is, a marriage solemnity.

It was a custom sometimes used among the Jews on that occasion, that the bridegroom came, attended with his friends, late in the night, to the house of the bride, where she expected him, attended with her bride-maids; who, upon notice given of the bridegrooms' approach, were to go out with lamps in their hands, to light [the bridegroom] into the house with ceremony and formality, in order to the celebrating of the nuptials with great mirth. And some think that on these occasions they had usually ten virgins; for the Jews never held a synagogue, circumcised, kept the passover, or contracted marriage, but ten persons at least were present. Boaz, when he married Ruth, had ten witnesses, Ruth 4:2. Now in this parable,

1. The Bridegroom is our Lord Jesus Christ; he is so represented in the 45th Psalm, Solomon's Song, and often in the New Testament. It bespeaks his singular and superlative love to, and his faithful and inviolable covenant with, his spouse the church. Believers are now betrothed to Christ (Hos. 2:19); but the solemnizing of the marriage is reserved for the great day, when the bride, the Lamb's wife, will have made herself completely ready, Rev. 19:7, 9.

2. The virgins are the professors of religion, members of the church; but here represented as [the bride's] companions (Ps. 45:14), as elsewhere her children (Isa. 54:1), her ornaments, Isa. 49:18. They that follow the Lamb, are said to be virgins (Rev. 14:4); this denotes their beauty and purity; they are to be presented as chaste virgins to Christ, 2 Co. 11:2. The bridegroom is a king; so these virgins are maids of honour, virgins without number (Cant. 6:8), yet here said to be ten.

3. The office of these virgins is to meet the bridegroom, which is as much their happiness as their duty. They come to wait upon the bridegroom when he appears, and in the mean time to wait for him.
See here the nature of Christianity. As Christians, we profess ourselves to be, (1.) Attendants upon Christ, to do him honour, as the glorious Bridegroom, to be to him for a name and a praise, especially then when he shall come to be glorified in his saints. We must follow him as honorary servants do their masters, Jn. 12:26. Hold up the name, and hold forth the praise of the exalted Jesus; this is our business. (2.) Expectants of Christ, and of his second coming. As Christians, we profess, not only to believe and look for, but to love and long for, the appearing of Christ, and to act in our whole conversation with a regard to it. The second coming of Christ is the centre in which all the lines of our religion meet, and to which the whole of the divine life hath a constant reference and tendency.

4. Their chief concern is to have lights in their hands, when they attend the bridegroom, thus to do him honour and do him service. Note, Christians are children of light. The gospel is light, and they who receive it must not only be enlightened by it themselves, but must shine as lights, must hold it forth, Phil. 2:15, 16. This in general. - source

Again, comparing scripture with scripture, the truth of the "meet and greet and return to base" aspect (post #198) of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 remains:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

...and perhaps the most grievous lie of all: adding the word half to scripture:
Again half are taken and half are left behind.

I suggest you lay down your convoluted pre-trib diatribe before God; then ask him for wisdom and discernment. And read your Bible, because...

The bible rules.
 
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A reckless lie:


...and another faux pas:

Rather, the ten virgins are not the bride; they are witnesses, companions.

Matthew Henry said it best:

The professors of Christianity shall then be likened to these ten virgins, and shall be thus distinguished.

That by which it is illustrated, is, a marriage solemnity.

It was a custom sometimes used among the Jews on that occasion, that the bridegroom came, attended with his friends, late in the night, to the house of the bride, where she expected him, attended with her bride-maids; who, upon notice given of the bridegrooms' approach, were to go out with lamps in their hands, to light [the bridegroom] into the house with ceremony and formality, in order to the celebrating of the nuptials with great mirth. And some think that on these occasions they had usually ten virgins; for the Jews never held a synagogue, circumcised, kept the passover, or contracted marriage, but ten persons at least were present. Boaz, when he married Ruth, had ten witnesses, Ruth 4:2. Now in this parable,

1. The Bridegroom is our Lord Jesus Christ; he is so represented in the 45th Psalm, Solomon's Song, and often in the New Testament. It bespeaks his singular and superlative love to, and his faithful and inviolable covenant with, his spouse the church. Believers are now betrothed to Christ (Hos. 2:19); but the solemnizing of the marriage is reserved for the great day, when the bride, the Lamb's wife, will have made herself completely ready, Rev. 19:7, 9.

2. The virgins are the professors of religion, members of the church; but here represented as [the bride's] companions (Ps. 45:14), as elsewhere her children (Isa. 54:1), her ornaments, Isa. 49:18. They that follow the Lamb, are said to be virgins (Rev. 14:4); this denotes their beauty and purity; they are to be presented as chaste virgins to Christ, 2 Co. 11:2. The bridegroom is a king; so these virgins are maids of honour, virgins without number (Cant. 6:8), yet here said to be ten.

3. The office of these virgins is to meet the bridegroom, which is as much their happiness as their duty. They come to wait upon the bridegroom when he appears, and in the mean time to wait for him.
See here the nature of Christianity. As Christians, we profess ourselves to be, (1.) Attendants upon Christ, to do him honour, as the glorious Bridegroom, to be to him for a name and a praise, especially then when he shall come to be glorified in his saints. We must follow him as honorary servants do their masters, Jn. 12:26. Hold up the name, and hold forth the praise of the exalted Jesus; this is our business. (2.) Expectants of Christ, and of his second coming. As Christians, we profess, not only to believe and look for, but to love and long for, the appearing of Christ, and to act in our whole conversation with a regard to it. The second coming of Christ is the centre in which all the lines of our religion meet, and to which the whole of the divine life hath a constant reference and tendency.

4. Their chief concern is to have lights in their hands, when they attend the bridegroom, thus to do him honour and do him service. Note, Christians are children of light. The gospel is light, and they who receive it must not only be enlightened by it themselves, but must shine as lights, must hold it forth, Phil. 2:15, 16. This in general. - source

Again, comparing scripture with scripture, the truth of the "meet and greet and return to base" aspect (post #198) of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 remains:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

...and perhaps the most grievous lie of all: adding the word half to scripture:


I suggest you lay down your convoluted pre-trib diatribe before God; then ask him for wisdom and discernment. And read your Bible, because...
Show me these made up "bridesmaids" in scripture.
Stop worrying about me personally.
You are copy pasting a convoluted story that has the virgins as "bridesmaids".
Nowhere in scripture does Jesus ; pick up, commend, or correct "bridesmaids".
Your Patrick Henry copy job has bridesmaids ( not found in the greek), instead of WHAT IS WRITTEN, "VIRGINS" then quotes Jesus Coming for believers (Virgins) later on.

That is CONFUSUON.
You present that confused dynamic of "bridesmaids", which would be FRIENDS OF THE BRIDE, NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST, Then proceed to malighn me for POSTING THE WORD OF GOD.

SHOW ME BRIDESMAIDS.
GET A BIBLE, AND SHOW ME THAT PREFERRED INTERPRETATION.

YOUR DEAL IS BEYOND DESPERATE AND LAME.
NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE.
 

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A reckless lie:


...and another faux pas:

Rather, the ten virgins are not the bride; they are witnesses, companions.

Matthew Henry said it best:

The professors of Christianity shall then be likened to these ten virgins, and shall be thus distinguished.

That by which it is illustrated, is, a marriage solemnity.

It was a custom sometimes used among the Jews on that occasion, that the bridegroom came, attended with his friends, late in the night, to the house of the bride, where she expected him, attended with her bride-maids; who, upon notice given of the bridegrooms' approach, were to go out with lamps in their hands, to light [the bridegroom] into the house with ceremony and formality, in order to the celebrating of the nuptials with great mirth. And some think that on these occasions they had usually ten virgins; for the Jews never held a synagogue, circumcised, kept the passover, or contracted marriage, but ten persons at least were present. Boaz, when he married Ruth, had ten witnesses, Ruth 4:2. Now in this parable,

1. The Bridegroom is our Lord Jesus Christ; he is so represented in the 45th Psalm, Solomon's Song, and often in the New Testament. It bespeaks his singular and superlative love to, and his faithful and inviolable covenant with, his spouse the church. Believers are now betrothed to Christ (Hos. 2:19); but the solemnizing of the marriage is reserved for the great day, when the bride, the Lamb's wife, will have made herself completely ready, Rev. 19:7, 9.

2. The virgins are the professors of religion, members of the church; but here represented as [the bride's] companions (Ps. 45:14), as elsewhere her children (Isa. 54:1), her ornaments, Isa. 49:18. They that follow the Lamb, are said to be virgins (Rev. 14:4); this denotes their beauty and purity; they are to be presented as chaste virgins to Christ, 2 Co. 11:2. The bridegroom is a king; so these virgins are maids of honour, virgins without number (Cant. 6:8), yet here said to be ten.

3. The office of these virgins is to meet the bridegroom, which is as much their happiness as their duty. They come to wait upon the bridegroom when he appears, and in the mean time to wait for him.
See here the nature of Christianity. As Christians, we profess ourselves to be, (1.) Attendants upon Christ, to do him honour, as the glorious Bridegroom, to be to him for a name and a praise, especially then when he shall come to be glorified in his saints. We must follow him as honorary servants do their masters, Jn. 12:26. Hold up the name, and hold forth the praise of the exalted Jesus; this is our business. (2.) Expectants of Christ, and of his second coming. As Christians, we profess, not only to believe and look for, but to love and long for, the appearing of Christ, and to act in our whole conversation with a regard to it. The second coming of Christ is the centre in which all the lines of our religion meet, and to which the whole of the divine life hath a constant reference and tendency.

4. Their chief concern is to have lights in their hands, when they attend the bridegroom, thus to do him honour and do him service. Note, Christians are children of light. The gospel is light, and they who receive it must not only be enlightened by it themselves, but must shine as lights, must hold it forth, Phil. 2:15, 16. This in general. - source

Again, comparing scripture with scripture, the truth of the "meet and greet and return to base" aspect (post #198) of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 remains:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

...and perhaps the most grievous lie of all: adding the word half to scripture:


I suggest you lay down your convoluted pre-trib diatribe before God; then ask him for wisdom and discernment. And read your Bible, because...
Rebuilder quoting the BIBLE;
"Again half are taken and half are left behind."

YOUR RECKLESS REPLY REFUTING THE BIBLE;
"I Suggest you lay down your convoluted pre-trib diatribe before God; then ask him for wisdom and discernment. And read your Bible, because..."

YOU ACTUALLY REBUKE THE BIBLE.
What desperation.
Sad what you have become.
 

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A reckless lie:


...and another faux pas:

Rather, the ten virgins are not the bride; they are witnesses, companions.

Matthew Henry said it best:

The professors of Christianity shall then be likened to these ten virgins, and shall be thus distinguished.

That by which it is illustrated, is, a marriage solemnity.

It was a custom sometimes used among the Jews on that occasion, that the bridegroom came, attended with his friends, late in the night, to the house of the bride, where she expected him, attended with her bride-maids; who, upon notice given of the bridegrooms' approach, were to go out with lamps in their hands, to light [the bridegroom] into the house with ceremony and formality, in order to the celebrating of the nuptials with great mirth. And some think that on these occasions they had usually ten virgins; for the Jews never held a synagogue, circumcised, kept the passover, or contracted marriage, but ten persons at least were present. Boaz, when he married Ruth, had ten witnesses, Ruth 4:2. Now in this parable,

1. The Bridegroom is our Lord Jesus Christ; he is so represented in the 45th Psalm, Solomon's Song, and often in the New Testament. It bespeaks his singular and superlative love to, and his faithful and inviolable covenant with, his spouse the church. Believers are now betrothed to Christ (Hos. 2:19); but the solemnizing of the marriage is reserved for the great day, when the bride, the Lamb's wife, will have made herself completely ready, Rev. 19:7, 9.

2. The virgins are the professors of religion, members of the church; but here represented as [the bride's] companions (Ps. 45:14), as elsewhere her children (Isa. 54:1), her ornaments, Isa. 49:18. They that follow the Lamb, are said to be virgins (Rev. 14:4); this denotes their beauty and purity; they are to be presented as chaste virgins to Christ, 2 Co. 11:2. The bridegroom is a king; so these virgins are maids of honour, virgins without number (Cant. 6:8), yet here said to be ten.

3. The office of these virgins is to meet the bridegroom, which is as much their happiness as their duty. They come to wait upon the bridegroom when he appears, and in the mean time to wait for him.
See here the nature of Christianity. As Christians, we profess ourselves to be, (1.) Attendants upon Christ, to do him honour, as the glorious Bridegroom, to be to him for a name and a praise, especially then when he shall come to be glorified in his saints. We must follow him as honorary servants do their masters, Jn. 12:26. Hold up the name, and hold forth the praise of the exalted Jesus; this is our business. (2.) Expectants of Christ, and of his second coming. As Christians, we profess, not only to believe and look for, but to love and long for, the appearing of Christ, and to act in our whole conversation with a regard to it. The second coming of Christ is the centre in which all the lines of our religion meet, and to which the whole of the divine life hath a constant reference and tendency.

4. Their chief concern is to have lights in their hands, when they attend the bridegroom, thus to do him honour and do him service. Note, Christians are children of light. The gospel is light, and they who receive it must not only be enlightened by it themselves, but must shine as lights, must hold it forth, Phil. 2:15, 16. This in general. - source

Again, comparing scripture with scripture, the truth of the "meet and greet and return to base" aspect (post #198) of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 remains:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

...and perhaps the most grievous lie of all: adding the word half to scripture:


I suggest you lay down your convoluted pre-trib diatribe before God; then ask him for wisdom and discernment. And read your Bible, because...
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"Rather, the ten virgins are not the bride; they are witnesses, companions."

Show me Jesus, Paul, Peter, James or John teaching that lame mess, where Jesus comes and gathers your made up "witness companions".

A Non believers rapture?
Whew.
Really ???

Get a bible friend. Stop despising and being offended by what is written.
 

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Again, you are repeating the same "half"-baked lie and adding to the word of God.


Rather, that repeating blunder haunts the bulk of your posts.

Many creative sand castles have been built, intending to house the pre-trib rapture theory, but none have withstood the first storm. Yours is no exception.


and

and

and

...more conflation in support of a false doctrine.


...yet another blunder that adds insult to injury.

He's been shown the scriptural truth, while others ask:



Pre-trib theory is one wicked "mental doctrine"...


and

One-half of a sand castle desperately seeking another half...

It’s not a sin to be wrong; it’s not even a sin to be grossly wrong. It is a sin, however, to refuse the reproof, the correction, when the truth of the matter has been made available.
rebuilder 454 said:
"2) there is never any time in the future, past, or present where half of Earth's population is born again and half of Earth's population is wicked.( your theory of a pretrib wicked people raptured to hell)"


Your lame reply:
"One-half of a sand castle desperately seeking another half...
It’s not a sin to be wrong; it’s not even a sin to be grossly wrong. It is a sin, however, to refuse the reproof, the correction, when the truth of the matter has been made available"

I would think that since the bible says half are taken, it would not stress you out so much to simply admit it is a no brainer.

That bible sure does strange things to you.

You have not addressed ANY OF THE BIBLE POINTS, with any thoughtfulness, or maturity.

Just keep slinging generalities at it.
You can not thoughtfully address scripture.
 

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A reckless lie:


...and another faux pas:

Rather, the ten virgins are not the bride; they are witnesses, companions.

Matthew Henry said it best:

The professors of Christianity shall then be likened to these ten virgins, and shall be thus distinguished.

That by which it is illustrated, is, a marriage solemnity.

It was a custom sometimes used among the Jews on that occasion, that the bridegroom came, attended with his friends, late in the night, to the house of the bride, where she expected him, attended with her bride-maids; who, upon notice given of the bridegrooms' approach, were to go out with lamps in their hands, to light [the bridegroom] into the house with ceremony and formality, in order to the celebrating of the nuptials with great mirth. And some think that on these occasions they had usually ten virgins; for the Jews never held a synagogue, circumcised, kept the passover, or contracted marriage, but ten persons at least were present. Boaz, when he married Ruth, had ten witnesses, Ruth 4:2. Now in this parable,

1. The Bridegroom is our Lord Jesus Christ; he is so represented in the 45th Psalm, Solomon's Song, and often in the New Testament. It bespeaks his singular and superlative love to, and his faithful and inviolable covenant with, his spouse the church. Believers are now betrothed to Christ (Hos. 2:19); but the solemnizing of the marriage is reserved for the great day, when the bride, the Lamb's wife, will have made herself completely ready, Rev. 19:7, 9.

2. The virgins are the professors of religion, members of the church; but here represented as [the bride's] companions (Ps. 45:14), as elsewhere her children (Isa. 54:1), her ornaments, Isa. 49:18. They that follow the Lamb, are said to be virgins (Rev. 14:4); this denotes their beauty and purity; they are to be presented as chaste virgins to Christ, 2 Co. 11:2. The bridegroom is a king; so these virgins are maids of honour, virgins without number (Cant. 6:8), yet here said to be ten.

3. The office of these virgins is to meet the bridegroom, which is as much their happiness as their duty. They come to wait upon the bridegroom when he appears, and in the mean time to wait for him.
See here the nature of Christianity. As Christians, we profess ourselves to be, (1.) Attendants upon Christ, to do him honour, as the glorious Bridegroom, to be to him for a name and a praise, especially then when he shall come to be glorified in his saints. We must follow him as honorary servants do their masters, Jn. 12:26. Hold up the name, and hold forth the praise of the exalted Jesus; this is our business. (2.) Expectants of Christ, and of his second coming. As Christians, we profess, not only to believe and look for, but to love and long for, the appearing of Christ, and to act in our whole conversation with a regard to it. The second coming of Christ is the centre in which all the lines of our religion meet, and to which the whole of the divine life hath a constant reference and tendency.

4. Their chief concern is to have lights in their hands, when they attend the bridegroom, thus to do him honour and do him service. Note, Christians are children of light. The gospel is light, and they who receive it must not only be enlightened by it themselves, but must shine as lights, must hold it forth, Phil. 2:15, 16. This in general. - source

Again, comparing scripture with scripture, the truth of the "meet and greet and return to base" aspect (post #198) of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 remains:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

...and perhaps the most grievous lie of all: adding the word half to scripture:


I suggest you lay down your convoluted pre-trib diatribe before God; then ask him for wisdom and discernment. And read your Bible, because...
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"The professors of Christianity shall then be likened to these ten virgins, and shall be thus distinguished."

Hilarious.
Jesus takes non believers into heaven to the marriage.

Absolutely hilarious