So being crucified as a thief is the fruit of repentance/faith and receiving water baptism? (highly unlikely!) In Matthew 27:39-44, we see that those who passed by, along with the chief priests scribes and elders blasphemed, mocked and shook their heads at Jesus and EVEN THE ROBBERS WHO WERE CRUCIFIED WITH HIM REVILED HIM WITH THE SAME THING. I certainly don't see being crucified as a thief, blaspheming, mocking and shaking your head at Jesus as being the fruit of repentance/faith, yet moments later, we see that one of the thieves had a "change of mind" (repentance) placed his faith in Christ for salvation and was saved. (Luke 23:40-43) Of course, he died before having the opportunity to be water baptized.
Luke 23:39 - Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, "If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us."
40 But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, "Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong." 42 Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom." 43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
I am saying that there is no proof that he was not water baptised.
Another thing, Jesus was not in Heaven that day was he !
If one was truly worthy of God, why would such a one not water baptise ones child ? you as one in Christ have a duty of water baptism in fact ! not that such saves them then and their but it is performed duty before God and all that one is taking your child's interest seriously regarding Christ Jesus.
Now on the other hand one who never had true Christian parents is to do such on their own accord due to faith.
One can not be truly Saved and not water baptised first.
Water baptism is to lead you into becoming Saved, fat chance otherwise really for most it not all.
Many nowadays claim to be Saved, when they are not at all, I have seen this nonsense being displayed by the works of man.
One mob of idiots that I know claim such that they can perform ? I said you can not perform ones Salvation at all, only Christ Jesus can do that in fact ! and I know because I was Saved ! and them fools were not in fact.
They are seeking the 2ed coming ? they talk nothing but for they lack faith to be truly Saved now in fact. because they have little faith ? But I have the faith that can move mountains ! I know Christ Jesus, they don't ! because they are to weak to understand !
I have Christ Jesus, they don't in fact. for if they did they would truly acknowledge him. but they look to the cursed Jews for Salvation in fact. Their faith is in the 2ed coming ? Christ Jesus never cut it for them poor religious dupes. they will not come to him ! for they are not worthy, they seek another Jesus in fact, why because they despise the real one. because they are not truly worthy of being Men but only boys.
Their hostility is just of that of a carnal beast, they can not sit down and work it out, but demand and push their own religion.
They say look at what is taking place in the old Jewish lands as to their key faith. but I say to them that such is a workings of Man in fact and not of God.
They openly said to me that they do not believe in the Holt Spirit, they said such was rubbish ! and that they were bring in the new Kingdom ? not to mention they want to kill people, they think it's their right ! I said you will go to Hell if you murder anyone. They said not true !
They have murder in their heart in fact guiding them, Not Christ Jesus at all in reality. for Jesus said of such who they are of.
So one who would work to deny Water baptism has no grounding, but fear of the Holy Spirit may come upon such a one. I have seen enough over the years from such cowards, oh they have their beloved naming ceremony's and all, but when it comes to water baptism, you see their true colours come out in their hatred. They fear water baptism ! Look at all the Jews back in the days of John the Baptist who did not fear such. but for the bastard so called Jews who were against all such in fact. They only worked to lead the Jews astray in fact ! I know their works, such is pointed out in the Bible for all to see, but some are not worthy of the Bible and such is not for them. because that's why it's written the way it was.
Nothing worse than a carnal Priest, no wonder we have seen so many Sodomites with in the Priest hood and no one stand up too them. for they are Devils leading the people astray. They puff themselves up ! when they should of submitted themselves to God ! Look at them all nowadays all puffed up with Gay pride and all and not to mention now they look down on all who do not submit to Gay domination over all !