The Trinity definition

[101G]

The Father is not the Son but the Son is the Father?

that's CONTRADICTORY
care to explain? can't wait to hear that answer.


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[ChristisGod]

that's CONTRADICTORY
care to explain? can't wait to hear that answer.


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he was responding to justbyfaith which is what he believes and is not trinitarian.

 

[101G]

he was responding to justbyfaith which is what he believes and is not trinitarian.

thanks, that's fine that he made that statement, but I like him to explain how the Son can be the Father but the Father is not the Son

or maybe you like to explain that contradictory statement...your choice.

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[ChristisGod]

thanks, that's fine that he made that statement, but I like him to explain how the Son can be the Father but the Father is not the Son

or maybe you like to explain that contradictory statement...your choice.

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I can't explain how the father is the son since its unbiblical and not true. I can only explain the Truth.

And remember don't argue with the Truth !

 

[101G]

I can't explain how the father is the son since its unbiblical and not true. I can only explain the Truth.

And remember don't argue with the Truth !

(smile), then let him explain.

but also what you have been explaining is not adding up to truth yourself.

understand, Jesus is the only true God who is a diversity of himself in flesh. there is no second, or third person in the Godhead, that's the TRUTH.

see discussing the word of God bring out the false statements to light so that they can get exposed.

now if you believe I have made a false statemnt any where, and I mean anywhere, please post it. and let the light of the scriptures reveal it to be true or false.

it's just thst simple. because if what one believe cannot be examine, then it's not worth believing in.

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[justbyfaith]

The Son is the Father in that it is the Spirit of the Father who dwells in the Son; but the Father is not the Son in that the human flesh of Jesus is not added to the Father as He exists in eternity.

 

[justbyfaith]

I think you’re overlooking the beautiful simplicity of the biblical story. You’re making God more complex than he is. Jesus is a human person. He’s a Jew. He himself has a God, and he himself isn’t him. There’s only one true God, this Jewish man’s God, the Father. Everything else is idolatry.

This Jewish man is the Messiah, the anointed one, whom God promised to raise up and send to rescue mankind.

* Now I unleash “Old Thumper” on you *

If you don’t agree with me then there is some kind of disconnect that is keeping you from understanding the truth; perhaps what is written in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

What affect did “Old Thumper” have on you?

God the Father descended to become a Man (Isaiah 9:6),

Eph 3:11, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

In the descending, He could not cease to dwell in eternity; for it is the nature of one who dwells in eternity that they are in eternity for ever.

 

[101G]

God the Father descended to become a Man (Isaiah 9:6),

I thought you said, or maybe it could have been someone else, "that the father stayed behind in eterinity". was that you who made that statement?

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[Mattathias]

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
here the definite article is used of the the "Son", now it's either the same one person or you have two Gods.

your choice.

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There’s a third alternative.

 

[101G]

There’s a third alternative.

ok, spit it out

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[Mattathias]

that's CONTRADICTORY
care to explain? can't wait to hear that answer.

I see it as being contradictory. The person I was speaking with doesn’t.

Was my answer worth the wait?

 

[Mattathias]

ok, spit it out

Agency.

 

[justbyfaith]

I thought you said, or maybe it could have been someone else, "that the father stayed behind in eterinity". was that you who made that statement?

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Yes. He did both (see Luke 1:37).

 

[101G]

I see it as being contradictory. The person I was speaking with doesn’t.

Was my answer worth the wait?

(smile), bad explanation either way, and should not have been used.... lol wait... I have all the time in the world,

next time....

Agency.

another LIE, God is no one's shaliah

but I'll give you a chance to prove your theory, the floor is yours.

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[101G]

Yes. He did both (see Luke 1:37).

Luke 1:37 "For with God nothing shall be impossible."

ok, care to explain how God the Father stayed behind in eternity and yet came and dwelled in flesh. now the bible clearly tells us how he did the impossible, do you mind presenting the truth for those who don't know, but now will know.... the floor is yours.

remember, 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." so use scriptures. thanks in advance.


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[Mattathias]

God the Father descended to become a Man (Isaiah 9:6),

Eph 3:11, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

In the descending, He could not cease to dwell in eternity; for it is the nature of one who dwells in eternity that they are in eternity for ever.

“Old Thumper” didn’t phase you in the least. (That’s the problem with “Old Thumper”. It’s ineffective. In fact, all it does is cause both parties to dig in their heels.)

 

[Mattathias]

(smile), bad explanation either way, and should not have been used.... lol wait... I have all the time in the world,

next time....

I have no control over what another person believes.

another LIE…

If you’re try to kill the conversation this is a great way to do it.

God is no one's shaliah

That’s right.

 

[101G]

I have no control over what another person believes.



If you’re try to kill the conversation this is a great way to do it.



That’s right.

so your Agency theory is then the same lie? yes or no

if no, then the floor as said is yours... (smile)....


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[ChristisGod]

so your Agency theory is then the same lie? yes or no

if no, then the floor as said is yours... (smile)....


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no need to make it personal with calling out "lie" . other than that its been a good discussion.

 

[101G]

no need to make it personal with calling out "lie" . other than that its been a good discussion.

never personal, is a theory or doctrine is false, is it not a "lie? yes or no

did I call anyone a lie or their theory a lie?

maybe it might be you who is taking it personally?

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