The Trinity

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Just came across the best articles I've read for a long time on the trinity. They are written by the president of the Adventist Theological Society. Enjoy.

Article One: Why the Trinity Matters

Our view of God impacts how we experience Him. Incorrect views foster an improper attitude toward God and thus can significantly affect our relationship with Him. The Trinity doctrine plays a crucial role in shaping a proper relationship with God. And the doctrine of the Trinity should impact our experience in a manner similar to the experiential purpose of the second commandment of the Decalogue. This command enjoins us not to make images of God and worship them. How does that commandment affect our experience?
In a basic rule-compliance understanding of the second commandment, one might think of Paul’s anti-idol discourse in Romans 1:19-25. Paul condemns the Gentiles for elevating the creature above the Creator by making idols (vss. 23, 25). Thus something seems fundamental about making a visual representation of God that diminishes our understanding of who He is. Our concept of Him thus tends to narrow to fit a finite representation of Him, and we begin to create our own god, carving it from ideas instead of wood or stone, then bowing and worshiping. Once God is boxed into our finite minds, He becomes manageable and malleable. We lose a practical sense of His infinite superiority, enabling us to gravitate toward a negotiable relationship and freeing us to do as we please as demonstrated by the Gentiles in Romans 1. This is certainly significant, but there is more.
Moving beyond rule compliance to the personal-power approach to the Ten Commandments, boxing God into our finite minds is an attempt to use our power of reason to demystify God. John Oswalt observes that “like their pagan neighbors, the Israelites were constantly trying to fit the divine into a box of their own making so that the divine could be understood and controlled.”* Romans 1 would seem to suggest that idolatry is one of the most significant ways that humankind has tried to demystify God, and Oswalt has rightly linked that quest to the human desire to harness the power of Deity to one’s dreams and desires.
Hence it seems that we can use our personal power to violate a divine right to mystery. God has a right to be mysterious—beyond our ability to comprehend and analyze. Sinful humanity, however, is frustrated by such mystery and seeks to demystify Deity and make the concept comprehensible. Once God is demystified, He becomes malleable. The second commandment thus calls us to voluntarily restrict our desire to demystify God and, instead, protect His right to mystery by respecting those mysterious boundaries our reason cannot competently cross.
In attempting to demystify God, we can use our personal power to encroach another right of God, namely the right to define Himself. By making idols—visual or intellectual—human beings impose alien concepts onto God, submitting Him to human definition and superintendence. Humans become the judge of what God should be, thus elevating themselves above their Creator.
The second commandment calls us to receive God as self-defined, in spite of the mysteries that do not make sense to our finite minds, and without imposing further definitions onto God. It reminds us that we are creatures who have no right to determine who God is or how He works. All we can do is receive His self-revelation or resist, carving our own God out of human ideas. This is where the Trinity doctrine interfaces with the second commandment.
Like the second commandment, the Trinity doctrine reveals a God who is too complex to define or understand fully. Our minds cannot grasp how we have one God, who is three persons, each fully Deity without being one-third of a God, yet They are not three Gods. If you think you can explain that satisfactorily, plainly you do not know whereof you speak. While we can be sure about those aspects of God that are revealed, we cannot claim to comprehend their meaning fully. Like the second commandment, the Trinity doctrine calls us humbly to acknowledge that God must be received as revealed even though our minds are left with baffling mysteries that cannot be explained. The Trinity doctrine reminds us of God’s right to define Himself without having to make Himself fully comprehensible. In this way, we are more likely to acknowledge His sovereignty and respect it. The incomprehensible dimension of the doctrine validates its authenticity.
We construct the doctrine of the Trinity from biblical data, much as we construct the doctrine of man, the doctrine of judgment, and a theology of good health. We also try not to go beyond Scripture into philosophical speculations about the exact nature of God as is done to some extent in the creeds. Instead, we see Jesus cast as co-eternal with God, who Himself is God (John 1:1-3). We then see the Holy Spirit described as “another Counselor” (NIV) like Christ and note that the Greek word for “another” means “another of the same kind” (John 14:16). Both Jesus and the Spirit are called paraclete (John 14:16; 1 John 2:1).
These are a few examples of a phenomenon in Scripture in which various attributes and traits are ascribed in common with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If A is like B, and B is like C, then A must be like C. God reveals Himself in Scripture as three separate divine persons sharing the same attributes and powers, yet who are not component parts of a God; nor are they three Gods, but one God. All we can do is surrender our desire to attain logical comfort and clarity, yielding our wishes to God’s right to mystery and self-definition and receiving His self-revelation in faith.
This does not mean, however, that we cannot know anything about God, nor that there is no logic at all in the Trinity doctrine. Monotheistic faiths that lack a Triune view of the Godhead are prone to lose the full and balanced view of who God is, often favoring the more high, lofty, authoritarian aspects of God over the loving and personal dimensions. By contrast, the Trinity doctrine shows each member specializing in revealing specific aspects of who God is, promoting a balanced view of God. Taking this equality seriously, we are forced to encounter all the attributes on an equal footing without diminishing some to favor others.
All members of the Godhead possess and exercise the full complement of divine attributes, but in relating to us, each specializes in revealing particular dimensions. The Father reveals the high, mighty, awe-inspiring, sovereign characteristics of the Godhead, exemplified by Isaiah’s reaction in chapter 6, “woe is me” (NKJV). Jesus is the “Word” (John 1:1-3) and as such, specializes in communicating with His creatures in relational and intimate ways. Christ reveals the relational, gracious, loving dimensions that characterize all three members of the Godhead. The Holy Spirit encapsulates the mysteriousness of God, working invisibly undercover, not speaking for Himself but revealing the others (John 16:13, 14). Since all are fully Deity, we must treat justice, mercy, grace, judgment, and all the other attributes as equally significant and important. This equal reckoning helps us to develop a properly balanced understanding of God’s character. Without the complexity resulting from three Persons, it becomes much easier to fall for the trap of desiring to demystify God.
The Trinity doctrine is a challenge to let God define Himself. It is a call to surrender to the mysteries remaining beyond comprehension. This act of submission by accepting the mystery and letting it remain as such, is the most foundational element in forging a proper relationship with God. Not everything God reveals will make sense to us, whether it be revelations about Himself or other things.
Just as revelations and admonitions from parents do not always make sense to teens and children, so some of God’s revelations will be beyond our understanding. As good children, however, we must accept the authority of those revelations and acknowledge our limits along with God’s rights. Otherwise, we risk elevating the creature over the Creator, subjecting God to our standards of who we think He ought to be, and creating an idol out of ideas instead of wood or stone. Let us surrender to the mystery and receive God as self-revealed instead boxing Him into the confines of our finite minds.

Article Two: Why the Trinity Matters Part Two

In my previous column,1 I examined the significance of the Trinity from the practical aspect of how the doctrine affects our relationship with God. I continue in this by turning to biblical theology and how it may be affected by our understanding of the Trinity, and in particular, our view of the Son in the Trinity. Viewing the Son as somehow coming into existence through an eternal begetting radically alters the theological import of key Christological passages.
Perhaps the most significant of these passages is Philippians 2:5-8. Theologians label this passage as the kenosis, coining the name based on the Greek verb in verse 7, often translated as “emptying himself.” The intersection of our view of the Trinity with this passage has significant theological implications.
In Philippians 2, Paul appeals to the believers in that city not to center their thoughts and actions on self-glory and self-interest, but to practice humility, esteeming others better than themselves (Phil. 2:3). Thus, one should not merely watch out for his or her own interests but should watch to protect other’s interests as well (vs. 4). On what basis, though, ought we to behave in this manner? Paul appeals to the example of Christ for the grounding concepts.
He begins his argument by appealing to the Philippians to let the mind of Christ dwell in them. Here “mind” is akin to our idea of “mindset,” that is, the operating philosophy that guides the mind’s thinking. But what is this Christly mindset? Paul explains it in verses 6-8. In his opening phrase, “who, though he was in the form of God.” Letting Scripture interpret Scripture, we find this same Greek word used in verse 7, when Christ took upon Himself the “form of a servant,” which is restated as “being born in the likeness of men.” Christ really became a servant and a human.
We do not believe in the heresy of Docetism which asserts that Jesus only appeared to be human but that He never really became so. Taking the “form” of a servant thus denotes that He really became a servant, but the “taking” shows that this servanthood was not something naturally His. Nonetheless, He truly became a servant. Being in the “form” of God, however, is not something Christ took or became. The Greek participle indicates a continuous state of being in the “form” of God, with no hint at becoming deity.Paul is thus saying that prior to the incarnation, Jesus was essentially and always God. Yet as One who is fully and continuously deity, He did not selfishly clutch what was His by right—the functions and privileges of His deity—but emptied Himself of those rights and privileges to assume the functions and rights of a servant—literally, a low-ranking slave.
Paul’s point is twofold. First, Jesus was essentially God, possessing all the divine rights and privileges, yet He did not guard them selfishly. He sacrificially divested Himself voluntarily of those rights and privileges for a more noble purpose than self-interest, namely to save us. As followers of Christ, Paul called the Philippians to follow this example by divesting themselves of self-interest and sacrificially serving others.
Second, the logical structure of the passage is a message that it is because Christ was essentially God that He emptied Himself. God is not selfish or self-serving, but is sacrificial and selfless. Christ, as God, empties Himself because of who He is, voluntarily. It is not because He was ordered to do so by a higher authority.
One evidence of this is that Paul developed a Christian ethics based on the logic of the kenosis in 1 Corinthians 8-10. These three chapters constitute a literary unit in which Paul addresses the deeply divisive problem of eating food offered to idols. Paul opens in 1 Corinthians 8 by arguing that while the “stronger” brother has the right to eat, he should willingly give up that right if it will spiritually damage the “weaker” brother (vss. 8-12). Paul goes so far as to say that he would renounce meat altogether to eat only vegetables if that is what it would take to avoid injuring the weak brother (vs. 13). The moral principle Paul is advocating could be stated, “even though I have the right to do ‘X,’ I will willingly self-sacrifice in this point and not do ‘X’ in order to avoid injuring another.” To reinforce the concept, Paul illustrates this principle in chapter 9 through his own example.
In 1 Corinthians 9, Paul sets forth a moral and legal case that he and Barnabas had a right to be paid as ministers without having to work at a secular job (vss. 1-11, 13, 14). Paul notes, however, that “we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ” (vs. 12).2 Apparently Paul perceived that receiving pay from the Corinthians would somehow undermine spreading the gospel in Corinth. He accepted support from other churches (2 Cor. 11:8), but refused to accept wages from Corinth, even though he had a right to be paid by the Corinthians. Again, he states, “But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing this so that they may be applied in my case. Indeed, I would rather die than that—no one will deprive me of my ground for boasting” (1 Cor. 9:15).3 He made it clear that the necessity of preaching the gospel caused him willingly to renounce his rights, and though free of obligation to please other people, he renounced that freedom to be “slave to all” (vs. 19). These statements reveal a crucial element of the argument: It is because Paul is an apostle that he sacrificed his rights to preach the gospel more effectively. Paul did not sacrifice to become an apostle. Self-sacrifice is an essential part of apostleship, and indeed of Christian life, for the life of the apostle and of the Christian is to be modeled after Christ’s self-emptying as described in Philippians 2.
Paul’s ethical argument to the Corinthians brings us to an important point. Paul’s argument that he engaged in self-sacrifice because he was an apostle is grounded in his theology in Philippians 2 that Christ self-emptied because He was God. Thus, in Pauline logic, because one is a Christian who follows Christ, he or she ought to freely self-sacrifice to protect those weaker than himself or herself. For Paul, the “emptying of self” provided a foundational framework for shaping Christian morality. It is this philosophy of “emptying of self” that he was now applying to the Corinthian situation.
This principle is so critical that when Paul urged the Corinthians to practice sacrificial generosity in alms-giving (2 Cor. 8:1-7), he grounded the argument in a one-sentence summary: “You know the generous act of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that by his poverty you might become rich” (vs. 9). The whole argument, however, hinges on the full deity of Christ for it is because He is God that He self-sacrificed. Christ was not a subordinate persona who was following orders, but the joint sovereign of the universe, with all the rights and privileges that go with that office. The moral example of Christ in the “emptying of self” is severely weakened if He is merely an obedient subordinate. The power of voluntary self-sacrifice and self-emptying is lost when one is under orders. Hence Paul argued for the Corinthians to give voluntarily, without compulsion in order to implement Christ’s example (8:1-8; 9:7). It is because we are Christians that we follow our God in the path of voluntary self-sacrifice.
Moving to the larger theological picture, biblically, part of what defines God as God is being from everlasting to everlasting (Ps. 90:2). It is this same everlasting God (YHWH) that David said was his Shepherd (Psalm 23). Hebrews 7:3 ascribes just such an eternal existence to Christ: He is “without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.” Melchizedek is like the Son precisely in that there is no record of a father or mother, no record of origins, and in that sense, he “resembles” the Jesus Christ who has no father or mother or genealogic lineage, and, most critically, no “beginning of days” nor “end of life.” The author of Hebrews clearly asserts that Jesus, as Deity, has no origin.
If Christ has an origin, it changes the whole theology of Philippians 2, for He would now be a Son sent by a higher authority whom He obeyed instead of being a self-sacrificial supreme Deity. He would become a “hireling” sent by Israel’s Shepherd as an obedient son (see John 10:11-14) instead of being the self-sacrificing Good Shepherd. Instead of continuing a previous pattern of obedience to a higher authority from eternity, He had to “learn obedience” in His incarnate form (Heb. 5:8) and “become obedient” as part of His becoming a servant (Phil. 2:7, 8).
In Philippians 2 and Hebrews 5, then, the incarnation did not continue a previous obedience but introduced a new experience to One whose rights and privileges meant others had always obeyed Him. Christ did not self-sacrifice because He was a son obeying orders. He self-sacrificed because He is God and self-sacrificial love is the hallmark of divine character. To claim anything less diminishes our sense of the depths of His sacrifice and subverts the sublime greatness of divine grace. In the words of Charles Wesley, “Amazing love! How can it be that thou, my God, shouldst die for me?”4 This idea is so much better than “Amazing love! How can it be that thou, a son who came under orders as a hireling for the Father, shouldst die for me?” The Trinity doctrine—especially its teaching of the full and eternal co-deity of the Son and Father—grounds the power and majesty of divine grace!

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Rocky Wiley

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brakelite,

I am a son.

I am a husband.

I am a father.

In each function above, I do things in one that I do not do in the others. I am a person who has different functions.


God is our father as our creator.

God is the son who walked among us in a human body.

God lives in us as the Holy Ghost.

God has given titles to the different functions of his power so we might understand. There many more that I haven't even mentioned.

All through the bible God says he is one, and there is no other. Show me the scriptures that clearly disputes this. There isn't any, it is just another man made belief.