The True Sabbath and the Millennial Rest Foreshadowed

[Heb 13:8]

This is opposed to thinking you can play God by not keeping His word, and doing what you want and for some reason think you earned your salvation by your own works, which you think are so remarkably good..

In the real world Christians don't think this, only you do. This is in your imagination. And I'm not the one trying to earn my salvation. You are! You are the most confused person I have ever come across. So calling other people confused is hilarious. You really need His salvation buddy. Urgent email!

 

[Heb 13:8]

You preach that I'm trying to earn salvation, and yet you're the one trying to keep the ten commandments while preaching non-osas. This type of deception is way beyond me! lol

 

[mjrhealth]

MJR..as usual you are very confused, trying to mix chapters of various books of the Bible to suit your mefarius purposes...if you cannot keep the Ten Commandments, the law of God, then you are to be pitied...Hebrews 8 and 10 God said "I will write my commandments on their hearts and minds, and I will be their God and they will be my people"...if you do not believe in His commandments, then who are you really following?

Confused are you not teh one mixixng grace and teh law.....as for scripture , you keep teh one you love for it suits your flesh and deny all teh ones that tell you that you are denying Christ. Confused not by a long shot..

 

[heretoeternity]

It is you who don't get it, as you have obviously endured a lot of false teachings and are to be pitied...you quote a bunch of scriptures which are not relevant, and ignore the ones that are relevant...that is the true mark of one who is looking for scriptures to avoid following God, instead of looking for scriptures that show you how to follow God's word.. Some the the relevant Bible quotes from Jesus you chose to ignore are:
Jesus in John 14.15 If you love me keep my commandments....
Jesus said in Matthew 19.17 to enter into life keep the commandments..and He goes on to identify the ten commandments.
Paul said in Romans 3.31 do we make void the law through faith? God forbid. We establish the law
Paul said in Romans 2.13 it is not hearers of the law which are justified, but doers of the law
James said in James 2.2 faith without works is dead.
John said in 1st John 3.4 sin is transgression of the law
and in 1st John 5.3 this is the love of God that we keep His commandments and they are not burdensome
2.3 they that say they know Him and keep not His commandments are LIARS and the truth is not in them..

Hope this helps you find the truth.

 

[bbyrd009]

um, yikes?

 

[Heb 13:8]

Confused are you not teh one mixixng grace and teh law.....as for scripture , you keep teh one you love for it suits your flesh and deny all teh ones that tell you that you are denying Christ. Confused not by a long shot..

Unfortunetly . one needs eyes to see,, but they cant.

John 3:3 Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again."

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Happy Holidays mjr.

It is you who don't get it,

 

[mjrhealth]

John said in 1st John 3.4 sin is transgression of the law

And that is why you are a sinner, forever breaking the law. You still havnt explained how all those before Moses gave the law sinned without the law???

Happy Holidays mjr.

You too

 

[heretoeternity]

Are you saying MJRh you are not a sinner/......the Bible says "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3.23...

 

[mjrhealth]

Are you saying MJRh you are not a sinner/......the Bible says "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3.23...

you bible learnedess is great but it keeps you from teh thnigs of God, as Paul put it

Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

but you see

Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

That is why when you serve teh law you serve the flesh and are judged by the law, and have rejected grace, for law is works of the flesh for it is of your own works.

Gal_2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

It is purely by His grace His works and His Rightousness. Di O sin just like every one else but what does it say,

Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

and

Rom_8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

That is what it is all about, you feel guitly because teh law condemns you, it is not Christs doing.

 

[bbyrd009]

i see what you are trying to say there, but i would not be denying that there is a tension between law and grace, and one can go too far, in suggesting that the Law is of no affect. If you feel guilty, it might also be because you committed a sin, in breaking the Law, and you owe someone an apology, too, even if you have "accepted" Christ.