The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

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Oh i am sure the world evolves . But since when do i follow the world . AND SINCE WHEN can the WORLD and its evolvoing
EVER ONCE LEAD ONE TO GOD .
Might want to seriously reconsider your mindset .
And as far as any kind of evolutoin and so called evolving , yeah FLEE THAT TOO .
CAUSE GOD DONT CHANGE , HIS WORDS dont change
TRUTH has always been TRUTH . GOD IS , CHRIST IS , HIS WORDS are TRUTH .
SO may i highly suggest we take a nose dive right back into the bible for our own selves . BEFORE IT BE TOO LATE to do so .

"I am no longer content with the status quo, merely dwelling on the words of Scripture alone.

True science, true doctrine—from every angle I examine them, I see the Word of God revealed. I find Him present there, and all things remain inextricably tied to His primordial utterance."
 
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I don't rethink what the Holy Spirit tells me. It is final and done. They didn't expect the messiah they wanted in Israel or the eternal life they missed out on. Never expect things to work out the way man thinks the Word of God says.
Then you have sold out .
Because its quite plain to see THAT NOT ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN REVELATION has come to pass .
I aint seen even chapter fourteen done yet .
AND if satan aint decieving this world , THEN WHO IS .
Guess you think satan is burning right now in the lake of fire .
NO , HE IS LEADING MUCH OF CHRISTENDOME as HE DOES THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW .
BUT HIS END IS NEAR . And so is our new HOME .
 
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"I am no longer content with the status quo, merely dwelling on the words of Scripture alone.

True science, true doctrine—from every angle I examine them, I see the Word of God revealed. I find Him present there, and all things remain inextricably tied to His primordial utterance."
if science is your god and your trust , then you wont make it .
True science . THERE IS NO TRUE science . THERE MIGHT be truths IN science just NOT THE TRUTH .
If you want to rely on the carnal wisdom of men
THEN USE that carnal wisdom of their science to REDIFINE what scripture means , THEN YOU WONT MAKE IT .
BIBLE TIME . we dont need men , we dont need carnal wisdom to better understand THE HOLY INPSIRED WORDS OF GOD
WE NEED GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS SPIRIT . cause the carnal mind of man CANNOT EVEN recieve the things of GOD .
Evolve . GOD did not evolve , HIS WORD did not evolve , HIS SPIRIT did not evolve
But man sure likes to beleive in change , in evolves change . NOT looking good at all for many .
 
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"I am no longer content with the status quo, merely dwelling on the words of Scripture alone.

True science, true doctrine—from every angle I examine them, I see the Word of God revealed. I find Him present there, and all things remain inextricably tied to His primordial utterance."
You wrote your hearts desire for all to see .
I BELEIVE YOU DO desire this .
You wrote honestly . But beware
YOU truly are no longer CONTENT with THE TRUTH , WITH HIS WORDS
of TRUTH
YOU DESIRE and desired the same thing that many others did and do who also twisted those words
in favor of what they desire .
THIS IS SUPER DEADLY the path you are now on my friend .
Your god is whatever the carnal side desires to see as GOD . You probably see me as mean and hateful .
No . I write this only for your good as i desire ONLY GOOD for you and for all .
BUT YOU just proved to me what i have known about you since i seen you at the first .
I AM NO LONGER CONTENT with .........................................
OH I KNEW THAT my friend . no man whose desire is to have his ears tickled to suit his own desires
CAN AND IS CONTENT WITH THE TRUTH . because THE TRUTH EXPOSES THEM . they had rather beleive a lie that supports them
THAN THE TRUTH OF GODS WORDS .
 
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Then you have sold out .
Because its quite plain to see THAT NOT ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN REVELATION has come to pass .
I aint seen even chapter fourteen done yet .
AND if satan aint decieving this world , THEN WHO IS .
Guess you think satan is burning right now in the lake of fire .
NO , HE IS LEADING MUCH OF CHRISTENDOME as HE DOES THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW .
BUT HIS END IS NEAR . And so is our new HOME .
Yep, I'm sold out for Jesus, my Lord and Savior. He knows me and knows Him. Check the sixth bowl judgement, the Euphrates River is dried up. It's a Euphrates stream now and been that way for a few years now. It's over, you are right Jesus will be here soon, just not the way you or anyone else is expecting.
 

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if science is your god and your trust , then you wont make it .
True science . THERE IS NO TRUE science . THERE MIGHT be truths IN science just NOT THE TRUTH .
If you want to rely on the carnal wisdom of men
THEN USE that carnal wisdom of their science to REDIFINE what scripture means , THEN YOU WONT MAKE IT .
BIBLE TIME . we dont need men , we dont need carnal wisdom to better understand THE HOLY INPSIRED WORDS OF GOD
WE NEED GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS SPIRIT . cause the carnal mind of man CANNOT EVEN recieve the things of GOD .
Evolve . GOD did not evolve , HIS WORD did not evolve , HIS SPIRIT did not evolve
But man sure likes to beleive in change , in evolves change . NOT looking good at all for many .
Tao follows nature.The same is true of true science.The laws of nature are the laws of life, for they are the very foundation upon which God established all creation.

Hadn't Adam and Eve been driven out of the Garden of Eden and brought to this earth to learn the mysteries of life? If you cannot learn the mysteries of life from all that God has created, Then the purpose and foundation of God's creation of heaven and earth does not exist.

It's not just the Israelites whose Bible is reliable. There's a lot to learn and understand.

"Do you know why America has Yellowstone, that great volcano?

Because the U.S. lacks the Himalayas. Without snow-capped peaks to supply water, this massive volcano was needed—to boil groundwater and send its steam rising back to the surface.

What an amazing thing, different places will be different ways for one goal.
 

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Yep, I'm sold out for Jesus, my Lord and Savior. He knows me and knows Him. Check the sixth bowl judgement, the Euphrates River is dried up. It's a Euphrates stream now and been that way for a few years now. It's over, you are right Jesus will be here soon, just not the way you or anyone else is expecting.
No, the events of the seven seals have not begun yet.

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You wrote your hearts desire for all to see .
I BELEIVE YOU DO desire this .
You wrote honestly . But beware
YOU truly are no longer CONTENT with THE TRUTH , WITH HIS WORDS
of TRUTH
YOU DESIRE and desired the same thing that many others did and do who also twisted those words
in favor of what they desire .
THIS IS SUPER DEADLY the path you are now on my friend .
Your god is whatever the carnal side desires to see as GOD . You probably see me as mean and hateful .
No . I write this only for your good as i desire ONLY GOOD for you and for all .
BUT YOU just proved to me what i have known about you since i seen you at the first .
I AM NO LONGER CONTENT with .........................................
OH I KNEW THAT my friend . no man whose desire is to have his ears tickled to suit his own desires
CAN AND IS CONTENT WITH THE TRUTH . because THE TRUTH EXPOSES THEM . they had rather beleive a lie that supports them
THAN THE TRUTH OF GODS WORDS .
@amigo de christo
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Don't be too stuffy in studying the Bible. Are you denying God's creation? Well, if the earth is a prison, a school, what else can we learn besides the Bible?
 
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Since so many believe that the Two Witnesses are still future, I will share another viewpoint that actually fits Scripture.

A good verse to begin with is Revelation 12:1:



The woman represents the carrier of the 'seed of the woman' that began in the Garden of Eden. In the context of Revelation 12:1, the woman carrying the seed at that particular moment in time was Sarah, who gives birth to Isaac. Similarly, the 'manchild' represents the carrier of Abraham's seed on the father's side.

Years pass and now the seed of the woman, through genealogy of the Israelites, flees into the wilderness of the Exodus. For 1260 years, the seed is nourished until Jesus is born. The Tabernacle in the Wilderness begins the 1260 years:



The 'place prepared' is the body of Jesus, i.e., the Tabernacle:



Again, the Israelites took care of their Messiah, baby Jesus, for 1260 years. At the same time, the Two Witnesses begin to testify. From Moses to John the Baptist, the Two Witnesses testify for 1260 years until the birth of Jesus:



All of the verses match up perfectly.

Here is a basic timeline:
  • Woman on moon flees to the wilderness, i.e., the Exodus.
  • Moses builds the Tabernacle in the Wilderness on day/year 1.
  • The Seed of the Woman on moon is nourished for 1260 days/years until Jesus is born.
  • At the same time, the Two Witnesses testify from Moses to John the Baptist for1260 days/years.
  • Jesus is born on day/year 1260.
  • Jesus begins ministry on day/year 1290, thirty years later.
  • On day/year 1290, the Two Witnesses are killed. This would be the beginning of week 70.
  • 3-1/2 days/years later, in the middle of the week, the Crucifixion takes place (Messiah is cut off).
  • The Two Witnesses are raised. A great earthquake occurs.
  • On day/year 1335, 45 years later, Jerusalem is destroyed.
And there you have it. The Two Witnesses already did their thing thousands of years ago.

PS: To those of you who believe you are one of the Two Witnesses, I am sorry to tell you... it aint you kid.
eisegesis is nice
with a bowl of rice
leave some for the mice
 

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Lord, have mercy on those that deny your word. You are one who thinks God can't do anything the way He wants without checking with you first. You are blinded by man's teachings.
What's wrong???

You do not accept that we are living in the time prophesied by the Lord and the Apostles ???
 

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Don't be too stuffy in studying the Bible. Are you denying God's creation? Well, if the earth is a prison, a school, what else can we learn besides the Bible?
the Creation
and
Who the Creator is
 
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The 2 witnesses are the Church and the Holy Spirit. The Candlesticks and olive trees. Witnesses before God on all the earth. That said, Revelation is over, we are waiting for Christ now. It's all done.
When were the Two Witnesses killed in Jerusalem and their bodies lying in the street for 3.5 days?
 

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What's wrong???

You do not accept that we are living in the time prophesied by the Lord and the Apostles ???
Me? I've been saying the prophecies have been fulfilled for a year now. It's over. We are waiting for Jesus's return now. Just don't expect it the way you think. Remember the first time Jesus came it wasn't the way Jewish people expected it. Remember Jesus revealed John the Baptist was Elijah, and only to His disciples. But the Pharisees were looking for the Prophet Elijah
 

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I will not deny Jesus Christ and what He tells me. Those are manmade charts. Not from the Holy Spirit.
You can claim anything. But the proof is if your claim matches up with what is written in the bible. And your claims don't.
 

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It's in the bible under your nose. You just don't know how interpret.
Post your time line chart of the events of the 7 seals.

Also what is the name of the beast, since you claim Revelation has been fulfilled ?
 
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