The Woman Wonder in Heaven (Rev 12) isn't Israel:

[robert derrick]

Ministry and teaching and prophecy is definitely spoken of as women, mothers, and harlots:

Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

Those ministering for Jesus' sake, build up the body of Christ.

Those ministering for their own sakes, build a house of their own for power and profit.

And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?

Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner.

The woman clothed with Israel is the true ministry of Jesus Christ, and is mother of us all.

babylon the Great is mother of all whores falsely ministering Christ for their own personal benefit.

 

[Trekson]

Is the Woman with the twelve stars (Tribes) standing on the moon (Mosaic Law/Moses/Old Covenant)?

If Jacob/Israel was born of the Woman and then the Reborn Christians (still Jacob) became Children through CHRIST ...then the Woman isn't Israel?


[Rev 12:1 KJV]
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

[Rev 12:2 KJV]
And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

[Rev 12:3 KJV]
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

[Rev 12:4 KJV]
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

[Rev 12:5 KJV]
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

[Rev 12:6 KJV]
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.


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Romans 8:22-23
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Matthew 24:8-9
All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake.

Yes, she does represent Israel and this sign is to prove that, as it is taken from a dream of Joseph;s found in Gen. 37:9

 

[Davy]

The Woman is Israel. The vision follows Joseph dream.

Also Jesus was born of Israel and not the church.

Also Israel during the Tribulation will flee into teh wilderness and God cares for them for 3 1/2 years.

The very last Revelation 12:17 verse pointing to the symbolic 'woman' IS CHRIST'S CHURCH.

The reason is because at the Rev.12:7 war, with Satan and his angels booted out of the heavenly dimension, that is what will START the time of "great tribulation" for the 'end'.

The symbolic waters as a flood out of the serpent's mouth is about LIES of the grand deception by Satan at the VERY END of this world, not back in the days of Adam and Eve, or Noah. Revelation points back to Genesis with several symbols as "ensamples" for the end (see 2 Corinthians 11). Christ's Book of Revelation even gives us the 'shortened' time of the "great tribulation" that Lord Jesus shortened it to per Matthew 24, and it's in connection with this flood idea in Rev.12.

If you guys would get into your Bibles and study like our Heavenly Father wants us to, you'd easily understand these simple things. Forget thinking your local church is going to teach it to you, most church seminaries that train the majority of church preachers out there have already been infiltrated by Christ's enemies of the "synagogue of Satan", which is why most churches only know the 'milk' of God's Word, and not the "strong meat".