...they follow the lamb wherever he goes...

[quietthinker]

...they follow the lamb wherever he goes... Revelation 14:4
how would you understand this?....don't answer too quickly

 

[Pearl]

...they follow the lamb wherever he goes... Revelation 14:4
how would you understand this?....don't answer too quickly

To understand the meaning wouldn't you need to read the full passage and not just a small part of a verse?

Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless. Revelation 14:1-5

 

[quietthinker]

To understand the meaning wouldn't you need to read the full passage and not just a small part of a verse?

Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless. Revelation 14:1-5

does it matter and if so why?

 

[Pearl]

does it matter and if so why?

Because you can make scripture say anything if you take it out of context.

 

[quietthinker]

Because you can make scripture say anything if you take it out of context.

hmmm, so how do you understand it?

 

[Pearl]

hmmm, so how do you understand it?

I haven't even tried. With just the line you posted my first thought was that it was about following Jesus.

 

[Robert Gwin]

...they follow the lamb wherever he goes... Revelation 14:4
how would you understand this?....don't answer too quickly

Those anointed Christians do sir, wherever their Lord and Master goes, there they will be also. Verse 3 shows how they even leave the earth to reside with him in heaven.

 

[Pearl]

Those anointed Christians do sir, wherever their Lord and Master goes, there they will be also. Verse 3 shows how they even leave the earth to reside with him in heaven.

The passage says they are all virgins.

 

[quietthinker]

The passage says they are all virgins.

do you think this means they have never had sex?

 

[APAK]

...they follow the lamb wherever he goes... Revelation 14:4
how would you understand this?....don't answer too quickly

QT: They => all the saints, those who are saved, those who are faithful to Christ and do not worship other gods or idols of whatever kind from self or of the world. They are all redeemed AND saved.

They follow the lamb wherever he goes => because they cannot help it. They are being like/as the lamb/Christ in their lives. They carry their cross as Christ. They separate from family and friends if necessary for Christ's sake. They, if required and necessary for Christ's sake, will lay down their lives for others. They produce the fruit(s) of the Spirit as Christ did. They follow Christ because they have the spirit of Christ within them.

 

[Pearl]

do you think this means they have never had sex?

Maybe not but a pure and undefiled in spirit.

 

[quietthinker]

Maybe not but a pure and undefiled in spirit.

so its metaphor?....We can then look at the rest of the description as metaphor also I think. The question is, what is it a metaphor for or of?

 

[Pearl]

so its metaphor?....We can then look at the rest of the description as metaphor also I think. The question is, what is it a metaphor for or of?

I've no idea. I'm not clever enough to debate that.

 

[quietthinker]

I've no idea. I'm not clever enough to debate that.

I think you are Pearl ...and you can do it; I believe in you.....ohhh, and its not about debate; it's about discovery :)

 

[Pearl]

I think you are Pearl ...and you can do it; I believe in you.....ohhh, and its not about debate; it's about discovery :)

I join in with threads only to have somebody make me feel stupid or out of my depth so I tend to try to stay away from the 'deep' stuff. Perhaps I need another cup of coffee. :)

 

[quietthinker]

I join in with threads only to have somebody make me feel stupid or out of my depth so I tend to try to stay away from the 'deep' stuff. Perhaps I need another cup of coffee. :)

Oh Pearl, don't underestimate yourself....you are far from stupid....you are the King's precious Princess and when you ask, he will show you.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

...they follow the lamb wherever he goes... Revelation 14:4
how would you understand this?....don't answer too quickly

2 Corinthians 11:2 helps (I think) in asking who was Paul speaking to where he said “that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” Was he speaking in a sexual content?

 

[Robert Gwin]

The passage says they are all virgins.

Yes, but virgins from what maam?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes, but virgins from what maam?

I get the question wasn’t to me but it is said so often “the ones who have not been defiled with women”

but considering “that I might present you a pure virgin in Christ” …pure in Christ is the the only way I can think of “not defiled”.

you asked virgins from what? just important as “pure among women” is “And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.”

1)first fruits to God and the Lamb (present you a pure virgin to Christ)
2)purchased
3)blameless

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I join in with threads only to have somebody make me feel stupid or out of my depth so I tend to try to stay away from the 'deep' stuff. Perhaps I need another cup of coffee. :)

We are ALL out of our depth. We are ALL stupid when it comes to God. The stupidest are those who don’t realize it and don’t see any of the spirit of the words, yet think they can instruct others.

Concerning the 144k virgins, I agree God was not talking about sex. It’s like when Paul said, was God thinking only about oxen when He said this? Or when he talked about the verse on two becoming one and said it was a mystery but was an illustration of Christ and the church.