May I ask what your point is here Pointer? To my knowledge no one on this site has claimed to be a church historian we have attempted to answer your questions. We have even said that it may come down to a matter of having faith.Faith that if God preserved his word through Jews for thousands of years and spoke through the prophets and apostles of the New Testament.Do you not have enough faith that his word for the most part would come to us in tact? God has many mysteries that man does not know. So I have to ask again what is your point? Are you trying to cast doubt on God's word? If so you might be better off on a web site that tries to do the same there are many. Is it to prove your knowledge? All true knowledge comes from God. you seem to get yours from men as you have often told us of the by the books you have read. On one hand you act as if you are well versed in Gods word yet knowing exactly what the text word say is only the beginning of the journey.You have yet to show me any knowledge of what these words mean. Yet here you are yet again nit picking details that are of no meaning to those with faith. If you really in need more information on exact things of history there are many sites you can go to to research this we have even offered them yet you nay say them. It appears to me that you are not interested in finding any truth other than yours. So again I must ask what is your point ?