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I have talk to many people in a few days. Now is the time to reveal the Truth.

The Rapture Theory

John 17:15.....'I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

There is a teaching today that is rife within the Christian world, called the rapture. What is the rapture theory? It is believed by those who hold to this theory (and there are MANY who do),that the "church" will raptured away to heaven and then the earth will continue for a period of seven years (called the tribulation) in which the inhabitants of the earth will be plunged into a time of great trouble and strife (more so than now). So according to this teaching there is a separation to take place between the saved and the lost BEFORE the end of the world.

In this teaching we are also told that Christ will return in two "phases". The first will be a "quite" affaire with the saints being rapture away. And then the second phase after the seven year tribulation will be the "glorious, triumphed" return, which according to this teaching will usher in the 1000 years millennium reign on earth (which is also a false teaching ).

Let me quikly show you an example of the weakness of the rapture doctrin. I came across a recent article stating '10 irrefutable proofs' for the rapture. Here are the first two irrefutable proofs' They quoted: Number 1 The RAPTURE is the 'blessed hope' while the second comings a day to be greatly feared". They separate the rapture and second coming saying that the rapture is the 'blessed hope' qouting Titus 2:13, and the second coming is the FEARED day of the Lord: quoting Amos 5:18. They believes these must be different events, because one is to be hoped for, and the other is to be feared.

But they fail to realize the simple truth that the second coming is the 'blessed hope' for the saving in Jesus, and to be 'greatly feared' by those who reject the Lord. Simple, logical truth.

NUMBER 2. "In the rapture, Jesus comes for His church, at His second coming He brings the church with Him." They say that Jesus takes His church way in the rapture, quoting 1Thess 4:16-17. And then Jesus comes back with the church at the second coming, quoting Revelation 19:14, which says 'the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses." But what they fail to realize is that the 'armies' whom Jesus returns with are His angels, as Matthew 25:31 confirms, not the church.

"But what about 1Thess 4:14 where it says that those who sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him? This surely is talking about the church coming back from heaven after the rapture with Jesus at His physical return?"- NO it's not. Rapture adherence love this verse, but they completely miss the context of what is being said here, look at both vs. 13 and 14. Paul is clearly talking about those who are asleep in Christ, ie, those who are in their graves waiting for His return. And what does Paul says to give encoragement concerning those who have died? He says that just as God raised Jesus from the dead, so He will bring with Jesus those who sleep in Him. In other words, those who have died, just like He rose Jesus from the dead.

The rest of the so called 'irrefutable proofs" are of the same mold. They are not proofs at all, but just twisting of scripture to suit their wrong belief. It's interesting that they also believe the 'antichrist' will not revealed until AFTER the rapture. This is a deception of the Roman Church. The Bible and historical Protestantism already revealed the -antichrist- The Papal Church of Rome!

Note: If the rapture theory is a true Biblical teaching. Why was it not well known and popularized until the early 20th century?

Bible Proof The Rapture Theory is False
John 17:15

Let me get one thing out of the way first.The world "Rapture" is not found anywhere in the Bible. So where do they get the word from? It was coined from the words 'caught up" found in 1Thess 4:17. and we will deal whit those verses later on.
What I would like to do is drop a BIBLICAL BOMB straight away on the pre - tribulations rapture teaching and expose its weakness. That BIBLE BOMB is found in Matthew chapter 13. In this chapter, Christ Jesus is telling a parable and teaching a lesson concerning the events of the last days and the second coming. Let's look at what He says: Matthew 13:24-30. ....'Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, the kingdom of heaven is likend unto a man which sowed good seed in his field; but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the house holder came and said unto him, Sir. didst not thou sow good seed in the field? From whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, an enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gathered them up? But he said, Nay; [NO] Lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. LET BOTH GROW together until the harvest: And in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST THE TARES, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gathered the wheat into my barn!

WoW! I love the Word of God. It is so clear that we need not second guess what is going to happen. So what are we told in the pre -tribulation rapture theory? We are told that Christ will "gatherd" His people BEFORE the tribulation and separate the "wheat and the tares" BEFORE the harvest. And yet what does it clearly state in the Bible verse above? That the separation only takes place AT the harvest.

PART ONE
 
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"Pipiripi, post: 378631, member: 7772"]But they fail to realize the simple truth that the second coming is the 'blessed hope' for the saving in Jesus, and to be 'greatly feared' by those who reject the Lord. Simple, logical truth.

NUMBER 2. "In the rapture, Jesus comes for His church, at His second coming He brings the church with Him." They say that Jesus takes His church way in the rapture, quoting 1Thess 4:16-17. And then Jesus comes back with the church at the second coming, quoting Revelation 19:14, which says 'the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses." But what they fail to realize is that the 'armies' whom Jesus returns with are His angels, as Matthew 25:31 confirms, not the church.

"But what about 1Thess 4:14 where it says that those who sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him? This surely is talking about the church coming back from heaven after the rapture with Jesus at His physical return?"- NO it's not. Rapture adherence love this verse, but they completely miss the context of what is being said here, look at both vs. 13 and 14. Paul is clearly talking about those who are asleep in Christ, ie, those who are in their graves waiting for His return. And what does Paul says to give encoragement concerning those who have died? He says that just as God raised Jesus from the dead, so He will bring with Jesus those who sleep in Him. In other words, those who have died, just like He rose Jesus from the dead.[/QUOTE
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cool. (old thread, but the Scripture is thousands of years older still)
 
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And we know that the only souls of the dead in Christ, that Jesus will bring with Him; are the martyrs killed during the GT.
Revelation 20:4-5 makes that quite clear.
It will only be after the Millennium, that all the rest of the dead, including Daniel 12:13 and David, Acts 13:36, will rise to Judgment.
Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will receive immortality, all the rest go into the Lake of Fire. Revelation 20:11-15

The 'rapture to heaven' theory is a Satanic lie that has fooled many. to their eternal regret.
 

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Well since all seem to ignore Revelation, but go on about how everyone else is wrong, it's no wonder why people keep missing the truth.

Since Revelation is the history of the end, and this is the end, should we not figure out what Revelation is trying to tell and warn us about?
 

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Well since all seem to ignore Revelation, but go on about how everyone else is wrong, it's no wonder why people keep missing the truth.
Since Revelation is the history of the end, and this is the end, should we not figure out what Revelation is trying to tell and warn us about?
Let me ask this - DID Jesus tell the Apostles to "figure out" how to save the world, or even one sinner?