Three Days

[JohnDB]

There were several passover feasts in Israel...

Passover (the Sadr) is more about the preparation than actually the one meal....remember the bit about setting a place for Elijah? (if anyone can ever speak to a person who is a practicing Jew you could easily understand this)

There were all kinds of stipulations and loopholes due to the exile. Jews would come from everywhere to Jerusalem in order to have a Sadr. Part of the preparations for those that traveled was that they couldn't start till they were told to do so by a Levite who had traveled from Jerusalem to tell them.

So...because of this a Sadr was exorbitantly expensive on what was called the Passover Day. Because of this everyone wanted to be sure they followed what God had said so they had second passover. Which is what Jesus and his disciples ate.

Then you have the three day dilemma?
Friday is not part of Saturday...it is friday. Sunday is not part of friday or saturday...it is sunday. No one could travel on Saturday to the cemetery. (The pharisees would get you)

So...a bit of friday, all of Saturday, and a bit of Sunday according to Jewish stipulations was actually by their reconing three days. Even if Jesus only spent 26 hours in the grave....(and it may not have been even that long) is still over the 24 hours required for one full day taking pieces and bits of two other days with it and making it three days. (A bit of a flowery way of stating and showing us how much God cares and loves all of us)



We are "westernized" thinkers....not ANE (ancient near east) thinkers...we weren't raised on their traditions and mind sets. There are some similarities from time to time...but they had some very different thoughts when it comes to many things which simply aren't understood today. We don't think of our wives as one step above livestock and almost property...THEY DID.

There are some major differences in logic of commonly known ideals at work here. At that time it was readily understood...today, some two thousand years after the fact and in a completely different cultural norm, many of these ideas seem foreign and weird...But to them they were very common and normal.

You simply gotta understand the people and the time.

 

[jerryjohnson]

There were several passover feasts in Israel...

Passover (the Sadr) is more about the preparation than actually the one meal....remember the bit about setting a place for Elijah? (if anyone can ever speak to a person who is a practicing Jew you could easily understand this)

There were all kinds of stipulations and loopholes due to the exile. Jews would come from everywhere to Jerusalem in order to have a Sadr. Part of the preparations for those that traveled was that they couldn't start till they were told to do so by a Levite who had traveled from Jerusalem to tell them.

So...because of this a Sadr was exorbitantly expensive on what was called the Passover Day. Because of this everyone wanted to be sure they followed what God had said so they had second passover. Which is what Jesus and his disciples ate.

Then you have the three day dilemma?
Friday is not part of Saturday...it is friday. Sunday is not part of friday or saturday...it is sunday. No one could travel on Saturday to the cemetery. (The pharisees would get you)

So...a bit of friday, all of Saturday, and a bit of Sunday according to Jewish stipulations was actually by their reconing three days. Even if Jesus only spent 26 hours in the grave....(and it may not have been even that long) is still over the 24 hours required for one full day taking pieces and bits of two other days with it and making it three days. (A bit of a flowery way of stating and showing us how much God cares and loves all of us)



We are "westernized" thinkers....not ANE (ancient near east) thinkers...we weren't raised on their traditions and mind sets. There are some similarities from time to time...but they had some very different thoughts when it comes to many things which simply aren't understood today. We don't think of our wives as one step above livestock and almost property...THEY DID.

There are some major differences in logic of commonly known ideals at work here. At that time it was readily understood...today, some two thousand years after the fact and in a completely different cultural norm, many of these ideas seem foreign and weird...But to them they were very common and normal.

You simply gotta understand the people and the time.

Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.

Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

So how long was Jonah in the belly of the whale? three days and three nights or 26 hours? How long will the 1st beast be dead before he rises as the image of the first? How long will the 2 witnesses be dead?

 

[sniper762]

There were several passover feasts in Israel...

Passover (the Sadr) is more about the preparation than actually the one meal....remember the bit about setting a place for Elijah? (if anyone can ever speak to a person who is a practicing Jew you could easily understand this)

There were all kinds of stipulations and loopholes due to the exile. Jews would come from everywhere to Jerusalem in order to have a Sadr. Part of the preparations for those that traveled was that they couldn't start till they were told to do so by a Levite who had traveled from Jerusalem to tell them.

So...because of this a Sadr was exorbitantly expensive on what was called the Passover Day. Because of this everyone wanted to be sure they followed what God had said so they had second passover. Which is what Jesus and his disciples ate.

Then you have the three day dilemma?
Friday is not part of Saturday...it is friday. Sunday is not part of friday or saturday...it is sunday. No one could travel on Saturday to the cemetery. (The pharisees would get you)

So...a bit of friday, all of Saturday, and a bit of Sunday according to Jewish stipulations was actually by their reconing three days. Even if Jesus only spent 26 hours in the grave....(and it may not have been even that long) is still over the 24 hours required for one full day taking pieces and bits of two other days with it and making it three days. (A bit of a flowery way of stating and showing us how much God cares and loves all of us)



We are "westernized" thinkers....not ANE (ancient near east) thinkers...we weren't raised on their traditions and mind sets. There are some similarities from time to time...but they had some very different thoughts when it comes to many things which simply aren't understood today. We don't think of our wives as one step above livestock and almost property...THEY DID.

There are some major differences in logic of commonly known ideals at work here. At that time it was readily understood...today, some two thousand years after the fact and in a completely different cultural norm, many of these ideas seem foreign and weird...But to them they were very common and normal.

You simply gotta understand the people and the time.

a bit of friday, a bit of saturday and a bit of sunday does not make "three days and three nights", as jesus prophesied.

read this: http://www.interfaith.org/christianity/apocrypha/new-testament-apocrypha/6/5.phpv

it will reiterate that jesus died on the 6th day of the week

 

[JohnDB]

Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.

Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

So how long was Jonah in the belly of the whale? three days and three nights or 26 hours? How long will the 1st beast be dead before he rises as the image of the first? How long will the 2 witnesses be dead?

The "sign of Jonah" is not the same as the actual amount of time Jonah spent in the belly of a great fish versus the amount of time Jesus spent in the grave. (I always believe scripture...you just have to be careful not to add or take away from what it says)

Jonah (a miserable guy) wanted to be thrown into the abyss/Sheol (the bad part) for disobeying God...and he really didn't want to obey God either. Not even when he knew he was busted. (now that is stubborn)

It was a metaphor....not an account for account timing thing. It is a metaphor pure and simple. Otherwise Jesus would have to have been swollowed by a big fish...

Believe it or not...I kinda like Jonah...God wanted him in Aramea's capitol city (North-east of Israel) and so he runs off to what is known today as England. Jonah so hated them for a lot of reasons...but mostly for taking the northern tribes into captivity. Jonah had no doubts as to God's existance. No doubts about God's goodness, forgiveness, lovingkindness or any of the attributes of God at all....but his hate of these brutal "Gentiles" was complete....and he wanted to do anything but preach to these guys. He wanted to watch them burn in the fires of Hell while toasting marshmallows over the flames.

Now that is hate. But...you gotta respect ol Jonah for his passion.

The rest of your questions though...I can't answer.