Three Days

[JohnDB]

There were several passover feasts in Israel...

Passover (the Sadr) is more about the preparation than actually the one meal....remember the bit about setting a place for Elijah? (if anyone can ever speak to a person who is a practicing Jew you could easily understand this)

There were all kinds of stipulations and loopholes due to the exile. Jews would come from everywhere to Jerusalem in order to have a Sadr. Part of the preparations for those that traveled was that they couldn't start till they were told to do so by a Levite who had traveled from Jerusalem to tell them.

So...because of this a Sadr was exorbitantly expensive on what was called the Passover Day. Because of this everyone wanted to be sure they followed what God had said so they had second passover. Which is what Jesus and his disciples ate.

Then you have the three day dilemma?
Friday is not part of Saturday...it is friday. Sunday is not part of friday or saturday...it is sunday. No one could travel on Saturday to the cemetery. (The pharisees would get you)

So...a bit of friday, all of Saturday, and a bit of Sunday according to Jewish stipulations was actually by their reconing three days. Even if Jesus only spent 26 hours in the grave....(and it may not have been even that long) is still over the 24 hours required for one full day taking pieces and bits of two other days with it and making it three days. (A bit of a flowery way of stating and showing us how much God cares and loves all of us)



We are "westernized" thinkers....not ANE (ancient near east) thinkers...we weren't raised on their traditions and mind sets. There are some similarities from time to time...but they had some very different thoughts when it comes to many things which simply aren't understood today. We don't think of our wives as one step above livestock and almost property...THEY DID.

There are some major differences in logic of commonly known ideals at work here. At that time it was readily understood...today, some two thousand years after the fact and in a completely different cultural norm, many of these ideas seem foreign and weird...But to them they were very common and normal.

You simply gotta understand the people and the time.

 

[jerryjohnson]

There were several passover feasts in Israel...

Passover (the Sadr) is more about the preparation than actually the one meal....remember the bit about setting a place for Elijah? (if anyone can ever speak to a person who is a practicing Jew you could easily understand this)

There were all kinds of stipulations and loopholes due to the exile. Jews would come from everywhere to Jerusalem in order to have a Sadr. Part of the preparations for those that traveled was that they couldn't start till they were told to do so by a Levite who had traveled from Jerusalem to tell them.

So...because of this a Sadr was exorbitantly expensive on what was called the Passover Day. Because of this everyone wanted to be sure they followed what God had said so they had second passover. Which is what Jesus and his disciples ate.

Then you have the three day dilemma?
Friday is not part of Saturday...it is friday. Sunday is not part of friday or saturday...it is sunday. No one could travel on Saturday to the cemetery. (The pharisees would get you)

So...a bit of friday, all of Saturday, and a bit of Sunday according to Jewish stipulations was actually by their reconing three days. Even if Jesus only spent 26 hours in the grave....(and it may not have been even that long) is still over the 24 hours required for one full day taking pieces and bits of two other days with it and making it three days. (A bit of a flowery way of stating and showing us how much God cares and loves all of us)



We are "westernized" thinkers....not ANE (ancient near east) thinkers...we weren't raised on their traditions and mind sets. There are some similarities from time to time...but they had some very different thoughts when it comes to many things which simply aren't understood today. We don't think of our wives as one step above livestock and almost property...THEY DID.

There are some major differences in logic of commonly known ideals at work here. At that time it was readily understood...today, some two thousand years after the fact and in a completely different cultural norm, many of these ideas seem foreign and weird...But to them they were very common and normal.

You simply gotta understand the people and the time.

Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.

Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

So how long was Jonah in the belly of the whale? three days and three nights or 26 hours? How long will the 1st beast be dead before he rises as the image of the first? How long will the 2 witnesses be dead?

 

[sniper762]

There were several passover feasts in Israel...

Passover (the Sadr) is more about the preparation than actually the one meal....remember the bit about setting a place for Elijah? (if anyone can ever speak to a person who is a practicing Jew you could easily understand this)

There were all kinds of stipulations and loopholes due to the exile. Jews would come from everywhere to Jerusalem in order to have a Sadr. Part of the preparations for those that traveled was that they couldn't start till they were told to do so by a Levite who had traveled from Jerusalem to tell them.

So...because of this a Sadr was exorbitantly expensive on what was called the Passover Day. Because of this everyone wanted to be sure they followed what God had said so they had second passover. Which is what Jesus and his disciples ate.

Then you have the three day dilemma?
Friday is not part of Saturday...it is friday. Sunday is not part of friday or saturday...it is sunday. No one could travel on Saturday to the cemetery. (The pharisees would get you)

So...a bit of friday, all of Saturday, and a bit of Sunday according to Jewish stipulations was actually by their reconing three days. Even if Jesus only spent 26 hours in the grave....(and it may not have been even that long) is still over the 24 hours required for one full day taking pieces and bits of two other days with it and making it three days. (A bit of a flowery way of stating and showing us how much God cares and loves all of us)



We are "westernized" thinkers....not ANE (ancient near east) thinkers...we weren't raised on their traditions and mind sets. There are some similarities from time to time...but they had some very different thoughts when it comes to many things which simply aren't understood today. We don't think of our wives as one step above livestock and almost property...THEY DID.

There are some major differences in logic of commonly known ideals at work here. At that time it was readily understood...today, some two thousand years after the fact and in a completely different cultural norm, many of these ideas seem foreign and weird...But to them they were very common and normal.

You simply gotta understand the people and the time.

a bit of friday, a bit of saturday and a bit of sunday does not make "three days and three nights", as jesus prophesied.

read this: http://www.interfaith.org/christianity/apocrypha/new-testament-apocrypha/6/5.phpv

it will reiterate that jesus died on the 6th day of the week

 

[JohnDB]

Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.

Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

So how long was Jonah in the belly of the whale? three days and three nights or 26 hours? How long will the 1st beast be dead before he rises as the image of the first? How long will the 2 witnesses be dead?

The "sign of Jonah" is not the same as the actual amount of time Jonah spent in the belly of a great fish versus the amount of time Jesus spent in the grave. (I always believe scripture...you just have to be careful not to add or take away from what it says)

Jonah (a miserable guy) wanted to be thrown into the abyss/Sheol (the bad part) for disobeying God...and he really didn't want to obey God either. Not even when he knew he was busted. (now that is stubborn)

It was a metaphor....not an account for account timing thing. It is a metaphor pure and simple. Otherwise Jesus would have to have been swollowed by a big fish...

Believe it or not...I kinda like Jonah...God wanted him in Aramea's capitol city (North-east of Israel) and so he runs off to what is known today as England. Jonah so hated them for a lot of reasons...but mostly for taking the northern tribes into captivity. Jonah had no doubts as to God's existance. No doubts about God's goodness, forgiveness, lovingkindness or any of the attributes of God at all....but his hate of these brutal "Gentiles" was complete....and he wanted to do anything but preach to these guys. He wanted to watch them burn in the fires of Hell while toasting marshmallows over the flames.

Now that is hate. But...you gotta respect ol Jonah for his passion.

The rest of your questions though...I can't answer.

 

[CadyandZoe]

the gospels say that jesus died and was placed in a tomb just before the saboth (friday evening). he was found to have been risen early in the morning following the sabboth (sunday morning)

1 and 1/2 days. where does three days and three nights come from?

Yes, there was a second Sabbath that week. It was a High Sabbath on Wednesday night, Thursday.

I created a video to explain.

 

[Pearl]

the gospels say that jesus died and was placed in a tomb just before the saboth (friday evening). he was found to have been risen early in the morning following the sabboth (sunday morning)

1 and 1/2 days. where does three days and three nights come from?

The bible says that he rose from the grave on the third day - Fri 1st, Sat 2nd, Sun 3rd.

 

[Pearl]

The bible says "on the third day" - 1at Fri, 2nd Sat, 3rd Sun.

Matthew 16:21
From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
Matthew 17:23
They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.” And the disciples were filled with grief.
Matthew 20:19
and will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!”
Luke 9:22
And he said, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.”
Luke 18:33
they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again.”
Luke 24:7
‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ”
Luke 24:46
He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
Acts 10:40
but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen.
1 Corinthians 15:4
that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

 

[Nephesh]

The bible says "on the third day" - 1at Fri, 2nd Sat, 3rd Sun.

The four Gospels of Christ are incomplete. However, Jesus has expanded on scenes from those Gospels, such as this one, through His spokesperson Maria Valtorta. On February 21st, 1944, Jesus said,

"The fervent prayers of Mary have anticipated My resurrection by some time.

I had said: 'The Son of man is about to be killed, but on the third day He will rise from the dead.' I died at three o'clock in the afternoon of Friday. Whether you count the days by their names, or you count them by their hours, it was not the dawn on Sunday that was to see Me rise. With regard to the hours, they were only thirty-eight instead of seventy-two, in which My body had remained lifeless. With regard to the days, it should have been the evening of the third day to say that I had been in the sepulcher for three days.

But Mary anticipated the miracle. As when with Her prayers She opened the Heavens a few years in advance of the predetermined time, to give to the world its Salvation, so now She obtains some hours in advance to give comfort to Her dying heart.

And I, at the beginning of dawn on the third day, descended like the sun and with My brightness I broke the human seals, so useless before the power of a God, with My power I prized open and overthrew the stone watched over in vain, with My apparition like lightning, I knocked down the utterly useless guards place as guardians of a death that was Life, that no human power could prevent from being such." (The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. V)

 

[Pearl]

According to Matt. 27:46 and Mk. 15:34;42, we know that Jesus died at the ninth hour (3 pm) on Friday and resurrected very early on Sunday (Matt. 28:1, Mk. 16:2;9, Lk. 24:1, Jn. 20:1). The four Gospels of The Bible are incomplete. However, Jesus has expanded on scenes from those Gospels, such as this one, through His spokesperson Maria Valtorta. On February 21st, 1944, Jesus said,

"The fervent prayers of Mary have anticipated My resurrection by some time.

I had said: 'The Son of man is about to be killed, but on the third day He will rise from the dead.' I died at three o'clock in the afternoon of Friday. Whether you count the days by their names, or you count them by their hours, it was not the dawn on Sunday that was to see Me rise. With regard to the hours, they were only thirty-eight instead of seventy-two, in which My body had remained lifeless. With regard to the days, it should have been the evening of the third day to say that I had been in the sepulcher for three days.

But Mary anticipated the miracle. As when with Her prayers She opened the Heavens a few years in advance of the predetermined time, to give to the world its Salvation, so now She obtains some hours in advance to give comfort to Her dying heart.

And I, at the beginning of dawn on the third day, descended like the sun and with My brightness I broke the human seals, so useless before the power of a God, with My power I prized open and overthrew the stone watched over in vain, with My apparition like lightning, I knocked down the utterly useless guards place as guardians of a death that was Life, that no human power could prevent from being such." (The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. V)

I totally reject your explanation. It is not biblical.

The bible says "on the third day" - 1st Fri, 2nd Sat, 3rd Sun.

Matthew 16:21
From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
Matthew 17:23
They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.” And the disciples were filled with grief.
Matthew 20:19
and will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!”
Luke 9:22
And he said, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.”
Luke 18:33
they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again.”
Luke 24:7
‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ”
Luke 24:46
He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
Acts 10:40
but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen.
1 Corinthians 15:4
that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

 

[Ronald Nolette]

the gospels say that jesus died and was placed in a tomb just before the saboth (friday evening). he was found to have been risen early in the morning following the sabboth (sunday morning)

1 and 1/2 days. where does three days and three nights come from?

In Jewish conversation even today, any part of a day was counted as one day. So Jesus died on Friday (one day) spent Saturday in the tomb(two days) and rose early Sunday(three days).

 

[Pearl]

Why is this being discussed when the bible says he rose from death on the THIRD day. It's easy enough to understand. I quoted all the verses from the gospels. Friday was the first day. Saturday was the second day and Sunday was the third day. It's so simple so I'm surprised that so many people can't see it.