To see how the new believers are doing

[soberxp]

That would be great, as long as it is out of my thread.

I don't think his behavior or perception is beyond your thread.

To see how the new believers are doing​

They still haven't learned to forgive, the lessons about the satan the devil, for the new believers..........(are we old than The Disciples of Jesus)

Why did God let him(the satan the devil) jump for so long? Aren't you surprised?

 

[Hiddenthings]

It should come as no surprise - and it mustn’t shake your faith - that such attacks are made on “the railroad“.The devil doesn’t want anyone to listen to and believe the gospel that Jesus and all of the apostles (including Paul) preached. You can’t get far without it.

I'm interested in your proof text for this statement.

 

[Matthias]

I don't think his behavior or perception is beyond your thread.

To see how the new believers are doing​

They still haven't learned to forgive, the lessons about the satan the devil, for the new believers..........(are we old than The Disciples of Jesus)

Why did God let him jump for so long? Aren't you surprised?

The topic of this thread is the gospel of the kingdom and is a response to Dispensationalism.

My suggestion / hope is that you start a thread on your topic.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Start anywhere if you want to "blablabla"

How can you forgive an animal with voice?

 

[soberxp]

How can you forgive an animal with voice?

1.Use Telepathy, words and voice.
2.If it has no fault or sin, I don't need to forgive it.
3.Because it has fault and sin, I need to learn to forgive it, no matter how it ends.

 

[Hiddenthings]

The topic of this thread is the gospel of the kingdom and is a response to Dispensationalism.

Scripture clearly divides Biblical history into three distinct Heaven & Earth periods:

1. The Mosaic Age – under the Law given through Moses.
2. The Millennial Age – under the reign of Christ.
3. The Eternal State – when God is "all in all" and death is no more.

One could argue there are additional periods, but these seem to be the primary focus of the Spirit's prophetic word.

 

[Hiddenthings]

1.Use Telepathy, words and voice.
2.If it has no fault or sin, I don't need to forgive it.
3.Because it has fault and sin, I need to learn to forgive it, no matter how it ends.

The Apostles understood it to be the carnal mind given voice!

Very simple, plainly written but twisted into a perverse doctrine of fallen angels and the like.

Nowhere in the Bible is an origin story given!

So, no need to forgive the creature - or even Adam and Eve for that matter.

 

[Matthias]

I’m sorry newbies. You’ll have to read around these people. Perhaps consider it an object lesson on the parable of the sower.

 

[Hiddenthings]

I’m sorry newbies. You’ll have to read around these people. Perhaps consider it an object lesson on the parable of the sower.

The usual condescending remarks

 

[Hiddenthings]

I'm interested in your proof text for this statement.

What's interesting readers is @Matthias doesn't have a supporting text...how can you provide evidence for something which doesn't exist?

But let's go in search of a supporting text, shall we?

2 Corinthians 4:3–4 (ESV) "And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

The corruption and weakness within our own nature is the true "devil", the false accuser of those who sincerely seek knowledge.

It is the god of this world - BUT how do we know this?

1 John 2:16 "For ALL that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."

What did Christ destroy on the Cross?

Go and read Hebrews 2:14 and complete your answer here

The _ e _ _ l

How so?

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Matthias

"it is veiled to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world"

I wonder if Matthias in all his so-called wisdom can see the Apostles connecting thought.

If Matthias is blinded to it - what has blinded him?

Is it a supernatural fictional being, or simply his own prideful nature?

Yep!

 

[Matthias]

“He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who does not believe will be condemned.’”

(Mark 16:15-16, NET)

“Jesus never taught a gospel until he taught it to Paul.”

You’ve got this, newbies. Remember the great commission. Always remember the great commission.

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Matthias

"it is veiled to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world"

@Matthias did you see the connecting thought?

What is the god of this world?

You say it's a rebel angel from Heaven?

Paul states its from this world, in this world and it's perishing!

 

[Matthias]

Christianity began with the Messiah’s teaching and preaching.

“… ‘And the glory of the Lord will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken’ (Isa 40.5). It was the day the Lord enshrined in his prayer: ‘Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven’ (Mt 6.10). This is the heart of the Good News. God’s kingdom is coming, and preparations for it are now being made.

A forward look characterizes the church age, and central to it is the ingathering of the Gentiles. Christ calls the church to mission, to summon the nations into the kingdom in anticipation of the banquet feast to come (Mt 8.11). … the central thrust of this present age is the ingathering of the Gentiles through the mission entrusted to us. The power of God that broke into history in God’s agent Jesus is now continuing to impact the world through that mission and its realizing eschatology. Like the first Christians, we share the Good News of the coming kingdom and invite people to be caught up in its sweeping action.”

(Clark H. Pinnock, A Wideness in God’s Mercy, p. 117)

 

[Hiddenthings]

“… ‘And the glory of the Lord will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken’ (Isa 40.5). It was the day the Lord enshrined in his prayer: ‘Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven’ (Mt 6.10). This is the heart of the Good News. God’s kingdom is coming, and preparations for it are now being made.

The contradiction in your post is hard to ignore.

You teach a doctrine of heavenly rebellion, and then reference the Lord’s Prayer with complete confidence? That’s incredibly inconsistent.

Matthias claims angels sinned in heaven, yet he quotes the Master praying, “Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” If God’s will isn’t done in heaven, what exactly is Christ asking to be mirrored on earth?

Wow - the teacher becomes the student.

 

[Matthias]

“The Kingdom of God is the central theme of the teaching of Jesus, and it involves his whole understanding of his own person and work.”

(Alan Richardson, Theological Word Book of the Bible, p. 119)

 

[Hiddenthings]

“The Kingdom of God is the central theme of the teaching of Jesus, and it involves his whole understanding of his own person and work.”

(Alan Richardson, Theological Word Book of the Bible, p. 119)

So, you maintain your contradiction?

 

[Matthias]

Work around the demons who are striving mightily to keep you from focusing on the gospel of the kingdom, newbies.

”The Kingdom announced by the Messiah who is the Son of Man is possible only through his death and will be finally and fully realized on earth at his glorious return. This is indeed the heart of the Gospel.”

(Donald Hagner, Word Biblical Commentary, Matthew 1-13, p. 214)

 

[Hiddenthings]

Work around the demon who is striving hard to keep you from focusing on the gospel of the kingdom, newbies.

”The Kingdom announced by the Messiah who is the Son of Man is possible only through his death and will be finally and fully realized on earth at his glorious return. This is indeed the heart of the Gospel.”

(Donald Hagner, Word Biblical Commentary, Matthew 1-13, p. 214)

The red text is truth! It's a Kingdom of Heaven which is a place of Holiness, Purity and Love and is coming to Earth. Gods perfect will done in Heaven will also be manifested in the earth.

There is no Heavenly rebellion as Matthias believes.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change".

 

[Matthias]

“THE SAVING WORD: ECHOES OF THE SOWER

We have seen that for Paul ‘faith’ seems to be associated more with the preaching of the gospel than with miracles, but we also observed that the Pauline emphasis on preaching has a precedent in Jesus’ teaching. In Col 1:6 Paul speaks of the word of the gospel ‘bearing fruit and growing … from the day you heard it. …’ The phraseology is reminiscent of Jesus’ parable of the sower, especially as the parable is interpreted in the Gospels in terms of ‘the word’ that is ‘heard’ and ‘bears fruit’ (Matt 13:1-23 / Mark 4:1-20 / Luke 8:4-15). Could Paul be echoing the parable in Colossians …?”

(David Wenham, Paul: Follower of Jesus or Founder of Christianity?, p. 86)