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Kriss, this thread is not about whether tongues is babble or languages. It is whether tongues were used to preach or not. I can not understand your post in regard to the first question. Where in scripture does it say that tongues were for preaching?
You are missing the point Setfree this thread is about Pentcostal tongue movement and includes their practice of Tongues sense you are not one maybe you arent fully understanding what some of their church's teach I do not know if they all teach it the same but the more radical ones teach if you do not speak in what they call tongues you do not have proof of the Holy Spirit in you.Now in 1 Cor. the gifts were given to the aspostels and early church to Start the New Christain Church to preach the Gospel to the World this is why the gift was to aquire the ability to speak forgein Languages to heal to be Charitable these were gifts granted for this purpose Prophesize means to teach one of things written or of future Events AT THIS TIME There was NO so called Tongue of Babbling Prayer it was the gift of Forgein Language to prophesize (teach the Word of God) and his prophecy's that he would return. After the Gospel was preached to the World.Fast forward in time 1800's the Pencostal movement retranslated this gift to mean an unknown tongue of Babble that was the evidence of the holy spiritThis is why I dont find it Biblical the orginal gift was forgein Language Not prayer muttering.My point always was where does it say this gift went from speaking and understanding Forgein Language to muttering prayers as proof of the Holy spirit????It doesnt it was strickly a man made new interptation of a scripture that was never intended to be proof of the baptism of the Holy Spirit Could it be some of you do a form of meditative prayer and call this tongues for lack of another word??and if so this isnt the gift spoken of in 1 Cor. (as it was the gift of forgein Languages) Where as the more radical Pencostal movement insists that if you do not practice babble you do not have the Holy spirit in you are we talking two seperate things here or is this all the same thing???? If so this was never taught No where is muttering a condition of having the Holy Spirit in you we are saved by grace and by acceptance and repentance we have the baptisim of Holy Spirit NO MUTTERING REQUIRED.....................DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY WERE DOING HERE Luk 9:6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where. THEY departed for other parts where people spoke languages unknown to them They were To preach the Gospelto them but they couldnt do it if they couldnt communicate with these forgiengers So gave them and others the gift of speaking and understanding these New forgein Languages (this was the gift of Tongues( The Language of Natural forgein Langages) Luk 9:11 And the people, when they knew [it], followed him: and he received them, and spake unto them of the kingdom of God, and healed them that had need of healing. They spoke of What????? THE KINGDOM OF GODSORRY WRONG THREAD MENTIONED!!!
Kriss, this thread is not about whether tongues is babble or languages. It is whether tongues were used to preach or not. I can not understand your post in regard to the first question. Where in scripture does it say that tongues were for preaching?
You are missing the point Setfree this thread is about Pentcostal tongue movement and includes their practice of Tongues sense you are not one maybe you arent fully understanding what some of their church's teach I do not know if they all teach it the same but the more radical ones teach if you do not speak in what they call tongues you do not have proof of the Holy Spirit in you.Now in 1 Cor. the gifts were given to the aspostels and early church to Start the New Christain Church to preach the Gospel to the World this is why the gift was to aquire the ability to speak forgein Languages to heal to be Charitable these were gifts granted for this purpose Prophesize means to teach one of things written or of future Events AT THIS TIME There was NO so called Tongue of Babbling Prayer it was the gift of Forgein Language to prophesize (teach the Word of God) and his prophecy's that he would return. After the Gospel was preached to the World.Fast forward in time 1800's the Pencostal movement retranslated this gift to mean an unknown tongue of Babble that was the evidence of the holy spiritThis is why I dont find it Biblical the orginal gift was forgein Language Not prayer muttering.My point always was where does it say this gift went from speaking and understanding Forgein Language to muttering prayers as proof of the Holy spirit????It doesnt it was strickly a man made new interptation of a scripture that was never intended to be proof of the baptism of the Holy Spirit Could it be some of you do a form of meditative prayer and call this tongues for lack of another word??and if so this isnt the gift spoken of in 1 Cor. (as it was the gift of forgein Languages) Where as the more radical Pencostal movement insists that if you do not practice babble you do not have the Holy spirit in you are we talking two seperate things here or is this all the same thing???? If so this was never taught No where is muttering a condition of having the Holy Spirit in you we are saved by grace and by acceptance and repentance we have the baptisim of Holy Spirit NO MUTTERING REQUIRED.....................DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY WERE DOING HERE Luk 9:6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where. THEY departed for other parts where people spoke languages unknown to them They were To preach the Gospelto them but they couldnt do it if they couldnt communicate with these forgiengers So gave them and others the gift of speaking and understanding these New forgein Languages (this was the gift of Tongues( The Language of Natural forgein Langages) Luk 9:11 And the people, when they knew [it], followed him: and he received them, and spake unto them of the kingdom of God, and healed them that had need of healing. They spoke of What????? THE KINGDOM OF GODSORRY WRONG THREAD MENTIONED!!!