@Robert Gwin
That you for your input into this thread.
You are the least aggressive of your group and rarely have I read where your knickers were in a bunch and you lashed out @ others.
I have decided that one's salvation or lack thereof is in God's hands and NOT mine to judge.
Hear the voice of the shepherd and FOLLOW his voice only ,if that is your journey and another's voice you ignore; good for you.
When we seek him diligently,he will be found. Jesus is the door to the sheep- fold and another's voice we MUST NOT FOLLOW.